Strider Knives....????

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Lee D said:
If Stolen Valor isn’t enough to stop knife users/collectors, what would it take to get people from buying Strider knives?
I’m serious, where do you draw the line?
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A lot of people have the ability to divorce their personal morals from the act of purchasing luxury goods. Plenty of people spend huge money on rare colorway basketball shoes that were made in sweatshops overseas. They don't care in the slightest, all about them Instagram likes.

Same with Strider fans, I imagine. When I was younger, I didn't care at all who made the things I bought, in similar fashion. But as I got older, and started to learn how things were connected, I was glad to discover that I'm able to effect small changes where I can...keeping every cent of my money out of the pockets of scumbags, for example.

But never doubt one thing: the dudebro culture is strong on IG, FB, and USN. Those are the guys keeping food on scumbag felon stolen valor car thief Mick Burger's table.
 
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Lee D said:
If Stolen Valor isn’t enough to stop knife users/collectors, what would it take to get people from buying Strider knives?
I’m serious, where do you draw the line?
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Unfortunately Lee, its always about the money. So many people, like those who sell Micky Rays knives, will over look his filthy lies and scam, and keep on selling those knives to people who don't know the truth about the man who made them, or the outright scam that it was built on. When it comes to money, its very easy to forgo honesty and any values.

And its always about the money. Just ask sgt244.
 
What keyboards and computers are you guys typing your posts on? Were the rare earth minerals sourced ethically? What can you tell me about the people on the board of the company?

Lee D said:
If Stolen Valor isn’t enough to stop knife users/collectors, what would it take to get people from buying Strider knives?
I’m serious, where do you draw the line?
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Poor quality materials. Overly thick edge grinds. Bad hardware. Bad customer support. Ya know, the stuff that effects the tool mostly.
 
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allenC said:
I'm an Army vet and I don't know any Sergeat or any other vet that would financially support a stolen valor POS like strider.
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1st I am not a vet nor do I consider myself a fiend of Mick Strider
I don't know that they are supporting "stolen valor", but there are many veterans that own Strider knives and a decent amount that are his friends.

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I fully understand the "Stolen Valor" part of this, though as I said I am not a Vet, and it isn't going to have the same effect on me., but I certainly understand why many would take a hard position on this.
But?- people constantly refer to the company built on lies-Did they buy the knife just because he was suppose to be a Ranger? Did they think it was somehow Ranger infused. The knife was the knife and it shouldn't have mattered if it was designed by a Ranger or a fry cook. The makers prior profession plays no part in the design and production. Knife making is a completely different set of skills. You either liked the knife or you didn't and that is exactly what you received.
 
Peter Hartwig said:
But?- people constantly refer to the company built on lies-Did they buy the knife just because he was suppose to be a Ranger? Did they think it was somehow Ranger infused. The knife was the knife and it shouldn't have mattered if it was designed by a Ranger or a fry cook. The makers prior profession plays no part in the design and production. Knife making is a completely different set of skills. You either liked the knife or you didn't and that is exactly what you received.
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When all the marketing is based on the maker's supposed "Black ops Ranger experience" and the maker is going around on this forum, other forums and magazines claiming that experience when he has none, that is the very definition of stolen valor.

It's already been posted in this thread multiple times, but Sparks' thread really lays out how the company was built on stolen valor and lies. That absolutely disgusts me. https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/mick-strider-has-some-explaining-to-do.453852/

Do you think people would have bought overly thick, expensive pocket bricks with lockrock, QC issues, and poor cutting geometry from a guy advertising himself as an AWOL soldier and former felon?

ETA: I'm all for second chances and rehabilitation for felons, but continuing to lie about his past points to a continuation of shady behavior, not rehabilitation. And I know stolen valor might not be a huge deal to some in the civilian world, but I bet you get pretty pissed off when your coworker takes credit for all your work in front of your boss, and gets rewarded for it.
 
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Silent H said:
When all the marketing is based on the maker's supposed "Black ops Ranger experience" and the maker is going around on this forum, other forums and magazines claiming that experience when he has none, that is the very definition of stolen valor.

It's already been posted in this thread multiple times, but Sparks' thread really lays out how the company was built on stolen valor and lies. That absolutely disgusts me. https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/mick-strider-has-some-explaining-to-do.453852/

Do you think people would have bought overly thick, expensive pocket bricks with lockrock, QC issues, and poor cutting geometry from a guy advertising himself as an AWOL soldier and former felon?

ETA: I'm all for second chances and rehabilitation for felons, but continuing to lie about his past points to a continuation of shady behavior, not rehabilitation. And I know stolen valor might not be a huge deal to some in the civilian world, but I bet you get pretty pissed off when your coworker takes credit for all your work in front of your boss, and gets rewarded for it.
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Not in any way arguing the stolen valor part , and it wouldn't be the best advertising to claim you went AWOL. But would people have still purchased the knives if he had made no claims at all. All this is out there and most know it, yet the knives still sell well.
It would seem a bit strange if people bought solely on his military carrier vs the knife itself. Maybe they did, but I wouldn't
not trying to step on anyone's toes with this, just an area I have never seen a clear answer to
 
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Peter Hartwig said:
1st I am not a vet nor do I consider myself a fiend of Mick Strider
I don't know that they are supporting "stolen valor", but there are many veterans that own Strider knives and a decent amount that are his friends.

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I fully understand the "Stolen Valor" part of this, though as I said I am not a Vet, and it isn't going to have the same effect on me., but I certainly understand why many would take a hard position on this.
But?- people constantly refer to the company built on lies-Did they buy the knife just because he was suppose to be a Ranger? Did they think it was somehow Ranger infused. The knife was the knife and it shouldn't have mattered if it was designed by a Ranger or a fry cook. The makers prior profession plays no part in the design and production. Knife making is a completely different set of skills. You either liked the knife or you didn't and that is exactly what you received.
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The fact of the matter is that to this day, there are veterans who have befriended him who absolutely stone-cold deny any of the allegations against him. They are flat out convinced that he's got extensive Ranger spec-ops commando experience, that those knives of his were designed from that experience, and that anyone who dares say otherwise are just haters who are making the whole thing up. That is a fact. I have heard stories about people coming up to Mick scumbag Berger at his table at various shows in the past and thanking him for his service, and him nodding sagely and accepting their thanks. That is disgusting on an obscene level.
 
Silent H said:
Your previous posts gave me the impression you were.

I'll quote myself, posing the same question, this time leaving out the advertising part.
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I have already stated it in the thread-but I would say yes they would(and still do). I like the knife and have not had any of the negative issues with them. It isn't the knife I recommend to people , but I like the knife(SnG).
Mick Strider on the other hand, dug the one huge hole("stolen valor") , but every so often digs himself a new one. He is tolerated at best, and I am being very generous in doing so. IMO However I excuse none of it.
 
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I had a Strider PT CC about ten ago, long before I learned of the Berger backstory.

It was a superb rock solid little cutter with the best ergonomics I’ve had. My only quibble was the finger choil shortening the cutting edge.
 
People are forgetting that there is a legitimate knife collecting reason to have Strider knives: Felon Knives.

I have knives designed by bushcraft people, "survivalists", martial artists, actual combat vets, firefighters, etc.
I have knives from different countries I got just because they were from that country...didn't need that butcher knife I saw at the pawn shop, but it was made in Portugal! Didn't have any knives from there.
Why not some designed by a carjacker?
His lies about military status only increase the knives value in the category of Felon Knives.
Of course a carjacker will steal valor along with a car! It increases the legitimacy as far as criminality goes! :thumbsup:
 
stabman said:
People are forgetting that there is a legitimate knife collecting reason to have Strider knives: Felon Knives.

I have knives designed by bushcraft people, "survivalists", martial artists, actual combat vets, firefighters, etc.
I have knives from different countries I got just because they were from that country...didn't need that butcher knife I saw at the pawn shop, but it was made in Portugal! Didn't have any knives from there.
Why not some designed by a carjacker?
His lies about military status only increase the knives value in the category of Felon Knives.
Of course a carjacker will steal valor along with a car! It increases the legitimacy as far as criminality goes! :thumbsup:
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Well hell stab, why stop there?

Maybe Micky boy can open up a whole new avenue of knife making! I can see it now, the 'cellblock shank' line of knives. For those tactical moments when you drop the soap in the shower. Flat, concealable in bodily cavities, easy to reshapen on the cell cement floor. Definitely stainless steel and no sharp corners for that ultra conceal ability.
 
jackknife said:
Well hell stab, why stop there?

Maybe Micky boy can open up a whole new avenue of knife making! I can see it now, the 'cellblock shank' line of knives. For those tactical moments when you drop the soap in the shower. Flat, concealable in bodily cavities, easy to reshapen on the cell cement floor. Definitely stainless steel and no sharp corners for that ultra conceal ability.
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There are a few knife companies with knives out named "Shank".
Something concealable for prison would probably be unobtrusive for regular carry. We've seen the Spyderco Ark originally designed for saving one from sexual attacks in shower situations (in military setting rather than prison). Apparently it makes an okay EDC too. :)
 
stabman said:
People are forgetting that there is a legitimate knife collecting reason to have Strider knives: Felon Knives.
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jackknife said:
Maybe Micky boy can open up a whole new avenue of knife making! I can see it now, the 'cellblock shank' line of knives. For those tactical moments when you drop the soap in the shower. Flat, concealable in bodily cavities, easy to reshapen on the cell cement floor. Definitely stainless steel and no sharp corners for that ultra conceal ability.
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Well boys, it seems that Ol' Felony Mickey Ray Burger himself is way ahead of you on that front.

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https://www.gpknives.com/m-strider-knives-nail-flamed-titanium-fixed-spike-black-cord.html
 
I like the knives. I have several. Purchased all 2nd hand or from dealers so no direct $ going to the man. I had lock rock on my older SnG and sent it in per the instructions for warranty work. It was fixed.

The newer M. Strider knives are better quality than previous Strider stamped ones.

I also own 2 Neil Blackwood customs, he's a real piece of work himself and still owes knives/money to people. I still like his knives even if he's a scumbag.

I own Benchmade knives even though people think they're anti 2A for aiding the local PD in destroying illegally owned firearms.

I work in a prison. I get lied to all the time. I get over it. That said, there are solid people that just made mistakes. Strider taking credit for military service? Yeah it's a dick move and distasteful. I don't care about his BS and it's not why I bought his knives.

The "bro-culture" of Striderholics can be much at times, but the same can be said about any knife fanboy group.

The whole felon thing is a joke too. I mean, you guys go to restaurants and movie theaters right? Or get your vehicles worked on? Chances are you gave a felon your hard earned money.

Maybe I have a different perspective, but I try to only get offended by things that directly impact me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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