Strider PT with New 3 Pin Pivot

EricV said:
Why would someone ever need to fully disassemble their framelock knife? You can clean it out just fine without taking the whole thing down, just some penetrating out and a q tip. It just seems a bit maniacal to need to disassemble a knife.

You could always use a small brass punch and a tack hammer, shouldn't be too difficult. Of course getting it tensioned right again is where you're really going to have an issue.
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brass punch & tack hammer, ookkeeeee

EricV, let me ask you this,
your out in the bush or on a mission somewhere & this thing comes loose,
what are you going to do???
strap it to >=2 carrier pigeons, with a lil note; "Dear Mr Strider, can you please toiten this, TOIT, TOIT like a TIGER, tanx bro" OR rip out my lil brass punch & go bashing away.
???? :confused:, you serious mate?

i know my way around tools & i could get this off if i really tried
but i don't want to butcher it, whats wrong with a alen key?

my whole point is this, if this thing come loose, your stuffed.:thumbdn:

forget about taking it apart, just pretend i didn't even say that because thats not the issue.

THE ISSUE IS just simply tightening this thing in a elegant way is not possible without a specialized:barf: tool (which i don't think exists at the moment)
 
Haha, As I don't find myself out on "missions" very frequently, or with with pivots that suddenly loosen up to the point where they are insafe in the bush I'm just having a hard time putting myself in your shoes. But I would be equally peeved about not having a tool available to adjust the pivot on such an expensive tool, I see your point.

I would of course use two african swallows to send the knife back to the shop though, for the sake of urgency. :)
 
EricV said:
Haha, As I don't find myself out on "missions" very frequently, or with with pivots that suddenly loosen up to the point where they are insafe in the bush I'm just having a hard time putting myself in your shoes. But I would be equally peeved about not having a tool available to adjust the pivot on such an expensive tool, I see your point.

I would of course use two african swallows to send the knife back to the shop though, for the sake of urgency. :)
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ahahahahaahahaha, sorry you are right!!!!
how could i forget about those african swallows!!!!
im off on my mission, to attend to my shrubbery :)
 
3base said:
"Dear Mr Strider, can you please toiten this, TOIT, TOIT like a TIGER, tanx bro"
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Quoted just because it's awesome. :thumbup:

I don't think not being able to adjust the pivot myself is a huge problem, I have a few hundred slip joint folders that I can't adjust the pivot on either, and it has never bothered me much. :)
 
I have Bee EL01 that has similar pivot. Those needle tip pliers can be used to tighten it. Not elegant, tend to slip, but can work
 
3base said:
Horn, ive only had this thing for a few days now but its interesting that you said that
was your blade tight when you got it or loose to flip open??
mine out of the box was very easy to flip, it feels really loose, no blade play, just very easy to flip, light even.
i thought Strider's where supposed to be tight out of the box (sorry, zip-lock) & that you need to wear them in well thats what ive read about the SNG's+SMF's anyway
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My PT wasn't particularly tight but it was certainly not loose. Not sure I've heard of a new Strider not somewhat tight. From what I've read at another site, new Strider owners with questions about tight pivots are a regular thing. I think I'm correct in saying the pivots come with no thread locking compound of any kind. If yours is loose, I'd keep an eye on it expecting it to loosen too much.

Blue Loctite, nail polish, whatever are commonly suggested as ways to fix the locking tension. Mick Strider said they got tired of messing up torx pivots or drivers from owners using too much thread locker so went to the three pin pivot which will be far less likely to cause disassembly problems for them.

It's not like the pivot needs a lot of torque to set correct tightness so I don't see why magic tools are needed unless there's too much thread locker. I use a drop of blue Locktite on the male end, dab off excess so only a little remains at the bottom of the grooves. To separate, I'll hit the head of the pivot with a soldering iron with a small tip for a short while and the bond will break with no problem.
 
These funny fastners really bug me because its very difficult to disassemble or adjust the knife without some specialist tool. Its OK if you have access to a workshop but these knives are meant to be used by people in the field where all sort of gunk can get inside the pivot and screw it up.

The only thing I can think of is the knife maker wants to make more money selling the buyer a special tool but then you not only have to carry the knife but the gadget to unscrew it. This could get a bit trying if you carry several knives made by different makers all with their own design of gadget.

What I would do is hacksaw a slot into the nut, use a bog standard screw driver to undo it, throw it away and replace it with a nut you can get on and off with basic tools.
 
Strider does not use locktite on their pivots. You do not need to use locktite on bull pivots. You will only give yourself headaches if you use locktite and want to adjust it down the road.
 
Shing said:
These funny fastners really bug me because its very difficult to disassemble or adjust the knife without some specialist tool. Its OK if you have access to a workshop but these knives are meant to be used by people in the field where all sort of gunk can get inside the pivot and screw it up.

The only thing I can think of is the knife maker wants to make more money selling the buyer a special tool but then you not only have to carry the knife but the gadget to unscrew it. This could get a bit trying if you carry several knives made by different makers all with their own design of gadget.

What I would do is hacksaw a slot into the nut, use a bog standard screw driver to undo it, throw it away and replace it with a nut you can get on and off with basic tools.
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I wouldn't recommend this as it will more than likely void your Strider warranty.

Dave
 
mystro said:
Strider does not use locktite on their pivots. You do not need to use locktite on bull pivots. You will only give yourself headaches if you use locktite and want to adjust it down the road.
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They do put loctite on the pivots, i've owned 3 SnGs and they all had loctite from the factory.
 
k, its been a few months now & my PT is loose!! loose as a goose!
it needs to be tightened, i don't want to send it to the states just to get it tightened.

has there been any development with a special tool?? :barf:

please, i don't want to butcher it, hammer & chisel not my style.

anyone, anyone??
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As posted early many owners are using circlip pliers found at most hardware stores. I personally use a tamper-proof screw bit. It is a 2 prong but fits perfectly, I found a set of asst. tamper-proof bits for 10 bucks at a local hardware store, IIRC Ace hardware. Sears hardware also sells the same TP bits but you will need the knife to size it properly. Once you get the correct tool you can always change the bolt out to an 8/32 allen, philips, slotted ect. for ease of future adjustments, so u don't bugger up the OEM pivot bolt. You can always revert back to the OEM bolt if you need to send it in for warranty work or sale.

HTH
Dave
 
I sold mine. Same model. Irritated me.
I managed to dismantle it first though.
- Modified a straight screwdriver (ground it thinner and narrower)
- Got a soldering iron on the pivot for 10 min to loosen the Loctite.
- Took 3 extra large toothpicks (they went in the 3 holes)
- Toothpicks in the one side. Screwdriver in the other.
Voila! Open.
 
thanks guys,
im selling it, im done with it,
i don't need this crap.

i wouldn't recommend this knife to anyone.
personally, id like to say to anyone considering purchasing this knife
don't, steer clear
-you cannot take it apart to clean (i wouldn't use it on a well done t-bone steak)
-you cannot tighten this stupid thing :barf:

over & out.
 
Wow...a lot of complaining over such a trivial problem. 90% of knives need a Torx bit which doesn't typically come with the knives. Yet I see next to zero complaints about that. Here is the simple bit that will work and can be found at Sears hardware for ~5 bucks, I believe the no. is CR-V8..fits a standard 1/4 bit holder, nut-driver socket ect. ect. I've used it on two different PT's with zero problems.
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and here is the whole kit that cost less than 10 bucks in your local hardware stores bargain bin
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If your using the pivot as an excuse to get rid of the knife your losing out on a fine tool!

Dave
 
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Never had to take apart my Striders, just rinse them off or spray them down with WD-40 and blow them out with air.

Then just wipe off the excess, take a few mins.

Taking apart something that doesn't have to be taken apart and Strider tells people in the Warranty not to take them apart in the 1st place so.....

Sounds like whining just to have something to cry about to me...
 
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