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Strider PT with New 3 Pin Pivot
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kreole
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A knife carried for even a week in the pocket and used will feel infinitely better taken apart, cleaned, and relubed compared to washing and lubing it without taking it apart. On the washers and around the pivot, doing what you do won't be able to clean those areas completely, but grime gets in there with use. Just the friction of washers on blade will get metal dust in between them that your method won't get out.
Is it necessary to take it apart? Definitely not. Is it better? Definitely yes.
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Not really, once they break in they are very smooth....
kreole
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But they'll be smoother taken apart and cleaned...but we're talking in circles
Beyond smoothness, without taking it apart, you won't get lube between washer and blade as it needs. Part of the importance of lube is that without it, what comes off as the knife breaks in accelerates wear on the washers and pivot. Lubing those parts directly slows that down. I'm sure Striders come with lubed washers from the factory, but if you've ever taken a brand new knife apart before, you know the factory lube gets deep black very fast and can get gritty. This probably doesn't matter to those of us who have a different knife for every day of the month, but for someone with one knife used regularly, it does matter.
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Otherwords you just like taking your knives apart and looking to justify it to me, and you can't do that because I will never agree with you.
Strider says don't take apart their knives, to clean them just spay them down with WD-40 and blow them out with air and clean with Q-Tips as needed, if really dirty deepsink it and then spray with WD-40 and clean as needed.
Most of us run them dry and have never really need to do much to them other than blow them out with air, tap out the dirt etc.
That what they were designed for, to be used in the harshest environments with little or no maintenance.
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Measure the distance between the three holes, use a little block of hardwood and drill three holes the same distance apart in the wood the same size as the holes, cut some brass rod, available at any harware store to fit and glue it in. Use brass rod so it doesn't scratch the pivot if it slips.
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Except that Strider doesn't want you to, taking apart a PT is no big deal. Straightforward, nothing magic and no surprises. For most, the biggest reason to do so would be to know the knife better. It's a pretty simple tool, and a very good one at that.
I just ordered one of these before really thinking about the whole pivot thing. It does really bother me too that they expect you to send it in every time it loosens up or needs general maintenence. This is why I really love my crk and everything they stand for. Build it right and include the tools to maintain it plain and simple. I am intriged by striders though and wanted a beefy little knife with under a 3" blade that I can carry without breaking my local 3" limit laws so I ordered one. Just looking at pics it looks like a fairly simple tool to make with either plastic or wood and some brass rods like mentioned before. Which you could make a set for a couple dollars. I'm sure it won't be to long before someone catches on and is selling something tacticool looking that you can wear around your neck or on a keychain. If I'm wrong I too will probably return it or put it up for sale or trade. If anyone finds that tacticool tool before I make my own please post a link. Thanks
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Ive noticed companies will come out with their own proprietary hardware on their products, I do not know the reason, but would guess on the positive side to be unique, and on the negative side to force consumers to buy their products only, or need special seperate adapters. If im on the road and loose my "special" tri-wing tool, im screwed, cant simply pop into any hardware store, Walmart, or Lowes. EXAMPLE - The universal charger on pretty much all phones is the micro usb, except for one company Apple. Just my opinions on the OP 
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I bought a new PT-CC a few months ago and the lil bugger developed up/down blade play within a month. It's certainly a bummer! I really dig the knife because there really is nothing quite like it within the parameters of my interests. I am 100% sure that the knife's lock will not fail but it does bug me a little that the play is there. This thread spawned an interest in me to try and get it apart to tension the lock bar a tad & get rid of the play.
My experience with Strider folders, which I've owned around a dozen, is that they ALL have locktite in the pivot. I have the PSD tool for the bigger folders and even with the tool, heating up the pivot, they can be a bitch to overcome. This lil guy is no exception! I typically use the boiling water technique because I live off the grid. It works well -with- the proper tool. A 1/16" drill bit fits perfectly in the little holes. I even have three of them. I can't get this little sucker to budge at all! I'm being very careful because I don't want to scuff anything up. I certainly don't booger up any of my knives when it can be avoided. This may end up being my first experience with Strider's customer service. I'm sure they take care of sh!t but I'm not too stoked that there seems to be little to no correspondence through the process. I'll avoid it for now & see if we can come up with a better option.
My experience with Strider folders, which I've owned around a dozen, is that they ALL have locktite in the pivot. I have the PSD tool for the bigger folders and even with the tool, heating up the pivot, they can be a bitch to overcome. This lil guy is no exception! I typically use the boiling water technique because I live off the grid. It works well -with- the proper tool. A 1/16" drill bit fits perfectly in the little holes. I even have three of them. I can't get this little sucker to budge at all! I'm being very careful because I don't want to scuff anything up. I certainly don't booger up any of my knives when it can be avoided. This may end up being my first experience with Strider's customer service. I'm sure they take care of sh!t but I'm not too stoked that there seems to be little to no correspondence through the process. I'll avoid it for now & see if we can come up with a better option.
I have heard snap ring pliers works fine but I hate to use hard tools that doesn't properly fit all the holes. My new pt is very solid and smooth. Getting smoother by the day. I have no real reason to disasemble it at this point but I plan on making a tool with a brass rod that fits the holes. Cutting it into 6 little pieces and either drilling some holes in a piece of plastic like a screw driver handle or trying to heat up the brass and push them in to match the pattern. I got this idea from another forum member on one of the knife forums. I think this is a great idea for anyone with a little mechanical know how. Since brass is soft it shouldn't even scratch the pivot if you slip or have an accident. I have made my own brass punches and bushing tools for my 1911 which work great and will not mar the gun. If anyone is interested you should be able to find this post with a simple Google search. If not pm me and I will try and find it and send a link.