Strider- Talk Me Into It

The one thing Strider knives get a bad rap for is the "folding prybar" issue. My sng cuts pretty damn, really damn good actually. And the tip is thin, so it might not make it depending on what you pry, but most of the balde will still be there to finish prying with. Maybe it should be seen as a pry bar with a thin tip? I've been in pretty bad shape financially as of late, and selling my sng has not crossed my mind. -Yet. The only thing I question myself about with the purchase of my sng is this: -Should I of got the SMF. Also, I wish I would of got a digicam blade for more corossion resistance. I ended up having a satin finish put on mine.
A similar knife I also really like is the Emerson cqc-12. Same set up different design. A little less $, but probably not quite as strong. -Stider folders are good, but the fixed blades might need a price cut.? And I feel an E.R. folder is "much" more of a folding pry bar.
My knife is a spear point sng, I can't fully speak of other models.
 
Lone Hunter said:
Brother, Striders are good knives, I own two an AR and a DB .

I also look for knives that can do the tasks you ask about (well not car doors but i know what your saying) . For the anti pry keyboard commandos out there, sometimes ya gotta do with whats at hand in emergency services.

Now i would take my DB over any of Striders folders, its a small fixed blade made for prying, hacking etc. Break it they send you a new one.

I don't really get knives like the Rescue and yes i once owned one . To single purpose for me and that one purpose ( cutting webbing, clothes etc.) is something I feel a shears is a way better tool.

If you want a knife where if you lose you tool (axe, bar whatever) and you need to get your ass out of a jam, then Strider is hard to beat.

Oh ya it'll cut seatbelts and clothes too.
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Thanks to everyone for the replies.

Lone Hunter - you really read my mind on what I was looking for. Like you mentioned, I try to stay away from knives like the rescue because they just don't offer enough versitality. It sounds like a Strider is the hardcore knife I am looking for.

I know that I said "prying and cutting through car doors, etc," but that is just an extreme example. I don't plan on typically doing those tasks with a folding knife, usually I use a knife just for cutting like it is designed to do. But in our line of work, if something goes wrong or the shit hits the fan, and I get trapped or stuck or lose my Halligan or TNT tool, I would like to know that I have a knife that I can trust my life with, and that can perform some of those prying/ punching through metal tasks if neccessary.

Up until now, the most expensive knife I've owned is a Spyderco Manix. I like my Spydercos and Benchmades, but I sometimes worry about trusting my life with a hundred dollar knife. Even though my Manix and others are good knives, it just worries me how quickly they can develop blade play and other problems. I know that a hundred bucks sounds expensive (if not ridiculous) to some people, but when you're in a line of work where someday you really might need a good knife to save your life, $400 seems worth it. Hopefully it never comes down to that, but better to be prepared than to find yourself in that situation unprepared.

I guess I'll be looking a little bit harder at the SMF now. :thumbup:

Thanks again for everyone's opinion.
 
ohmyheckinslc said:
I know that I might come up with some flack for this, but owning an AR and a buck-strider 881sp (I think that's the number, it's the "mini"), I can say without hyperbole, that the Buck-Strider has a heftier tip than the AR, and I've put it through some punishment that I would be worried about putting my AR through, as far as prying goes. My AR sits in a drawer, safe and sound, and I'll probably end up selling it eventually. That said, I've recently acquired an Extrema Ratio Fulcrum IID, and let me just say... If you want the toughest folding knife around, you owe it to yourselve to look at Extrema Ratio... And regardless of what people say about it's massively thick blade not being a good slicer, I can shave with mine, and cut up an apple with it. It's not as good of a slicer as a Paramilitary or Ritter-Grip, but it's still very usable, and would survive a "trip to Hell and back again" better than most of it's competition, IMHO. I cannot recommend it highly enough if you've found yourself with the yen for a folding prybar. But even just the Buck-Striders (the Titanium/G10 models) will get you far more knife for your money, than Strider will. Sorry, don't shoot the messenger.
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Beat me to it. I've only handled one in a knife shop some years ago but off the bat, your confidence in this knife to survive whatever is instantaneous.

http://www.badlandsforums.com/faq/ExtremaStrider.shtml

That said, I'd really like to own an SMF someday.
 
untamed said:
your confidence in this knife to survive whatever is instantaneous.
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??? :confused:

I pride myself on my, um, promptitude? With all due respect, I'm not sure what you meant there, dude... Anyway, I don't mean to knock Striders, and as knives go, their folders are fine, I'm just talking about the really extreme cases, as a holdover until Jerry Busse get's his, ahem, folder on...
 
he's saying that the instant you (global) handle the knife, you're confident it will survive whatever, wasn't referring to you (ohmyheckinslc) in particular.
 
"convince me"


OK, I triple dogg dare you! :eek:

Ron LaBella
 
Very true... I had high expectations for it, but didn't realize just how hefty it was until I held it for the first time, and compared it to my AR, 881SP, and some of my other 'hard use' type knives, Cqc10, Paramilitary, Manix, Presidio, HK 14205...etc. Probably every one of those knives is a better slicer than that FulcrumIID, but in a situation where failure really wasn't an option (isn't that Benchmade's "Black Class" motto?) I'd put my money on the FulcrumIID, though the AR is still a very safe bet, I think. The other thing I really like about the FulcrumIID is that it doesn't take up as much pocket real-estate as I expected it would.
 
There is a test somewhere between an AR (GB?), and an E.R. folder. I think it was a pretty close match up with each having their own benifits. Maybe someone knows where that's at and can post a link. I think the lock gave out on the strider first, but it was a liner lock not a frame lock.
 
moonwilson said:
Compared to the trainloads of beautiful craftsmanship in the hall, the Strider knives looked like junk.
Now ensues the inevitable backlash from rabid Strider fans.
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We know the knives aren't finished to typical pocket jewelry standards. It's nice having some that are, but that's not what a Strider is all about. Sitting a hall filled with eyecatching custom handmade knives, it becomes obvious.

Of course, from some reports, even getting close to the table was an accomplishment.

Late war Mausers weren't polished, blued or had choice walnut stocks, but when you're on the Russian front, accuracy and durability is a little more important. Strider buyers don't look for bling, just durability and function. Some question they get that, but a SnG is, IMHO, a lot tougher that the average $40 folder.

Professional level tools usually don't fit the image accompanying the price. After a few days on the job, the image is shot, but the service starts, and that's what separates the junk from heirloom.
 
You want strong, Go MercWorx, they have been tested against fire doors, and have cut holes in them, and although knives are not for prying, they would be the only one i would recommend for that kind of work. I own two and they are everyhtibng they are hyped up to be. My .02 cents
 
You should google strider or perform a search function here under "strider" and come up with everything you need. That way you can convince yourself to get it or not. For every negative opinion you will get a positive. Real world results are what counts. Also, if you like the looks and trust the maker, that is all you need as it is your money.

I'll tell you this, I am not a fan of strider nor am I a hater, but I would rather own a strider than a cheap chinese copy made by cold steel. At least I know that the heat treat was more carefully done and more likely to last longer.

In the end it is what you need it for that matters.
 
Siggyhk said:
There is a test somewhere between an AR (GB?), and an E.R. folder. I think it was a pretty close match up with each having their own benifits. Maybe someone knows where that's at and can post a link. I think the lock gave out on the strider first, but it was a liner lock not a frame lock.
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http://www.badlandsforums.com/faq/ExtremaStrider.shtml
Not too great a comparison for the Strider, all the GB wins in is initial sharpness, which could easily be solved by anyone with sharpening skills, and grip retention.
The ER's do have slippery grips. But in the end, if you were in a "Oh Shit!" situation, the ER is still a "knife" and the GB isn't. But honestly, The GB does great for a being a knife, but the ER's are 1/4 inch thick, so it's not really a knife, it's a folding bayonet.
 
That's the one. Thanks. Still would of rather seen the smf tested instead though. Cool testing too.



I now see post #23. Must of been sleepin.
 
Siggyhk said:
There is a test somewhere between an AR (GB?), and an E.R. folder. I think it was a pretty close match up with each having their own benifits. Maybe someone knows where that's at and can post a link. I think the lock gave out on the strider first, but it was a liner lock not a frame lock.
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My previous post, #23
 
barrabas74 said:
I have and SNG and an SMF. I have had 2 SNG's. The first one had blade play and I eventually traded it. The 2nd one did as well and I sent it back and it was fixed after some wait. I really like the design but it eerks me when knives that are that expensive and tight and ready to go. The ege's on mine have held up great and my SMF is like a tank and locks up like a vault. Easily my fav one but it can be a bit big depending on the pants you wear.

You using it for work would probably favor the big handle. My friend used his SNG to cut open a car hood, he works as a MP. That knife did not appear to have suffered much damage at all. Sadly his too had blade play though. I really like the knife, but some things(bladeplay) agitate me.
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I hit a rusty nail with my SNG while chopping a branch, I got a chip in the blade. Is this normal?

I guess maybe I expected more of the videos ive seen online, but other than that its one heck of a knife.
 
probably, S30V chips easy imho. but thats just S30V in gen'l not just SKI S30V.

as far as mercworx i have heard of some probs with them, F&F IIRC.

ER is a good heavy use knife, i have had a couple and other than the handle being kinda uncomfy they were rock solid.

ya know beauty is in the eye of the beholder, lotsa nice stuff out there for $500 or so, it just depends on what ya like/want, strider certainly isnt a bad choice, imho they are one of the top choices for a heavy use knife, i dont know that they are the best choice or if there is such a thing lol, if there is i certainly havent found it yet.
 
4Dsteel said:
I hit a rusty nail with my SNG while chopping a branch, I got a chip in the blade. Is this normal?

I guess maybe I expected more of the videos ive seen online, but other than that its one heck of a knife.
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Nails are bad on any steel, and much more so on a stainless steel that is not as tough as carbon steels. I would have expected chipping. But as long as the chipping is limited to the area where the nail was hit your good. In other words if the chip wasn't much bigger then it is really no big deal and easy to fix.
 
If 4dsteel owns a Strider, he prob. stole it since he is that scumbag KillersKill (nothing but a troll) who is banned again.
 
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