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Strider, what is the real history?

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From the tactical forums website.

I have removed most of the extraneous commentary.

As many of you are aware, Chris Osman and TAG Gear sued Mick Strider and Strider Knives over Mick Strider's Libel Per Se, Slander Per Se, Interference with Prospective Economic Advantage and Unfair Business Practices as related to Mick Strider's statements at TF and elsewhere regarding Chris Osman, his military past and his business practices.

The suit was filed on August 9, 2005 in the Superior Court of the State of California, for the County of San Diego, North County Division, bearing the case number GIN04566

In the Agreement dated 3-16-06, Settlement of Action, part 1, section (b) Mick had to write a letter of apology to Chris Osman, the text of which follows:

Dear Chris,

Please accept this correspondence as a formal apology. As you are aware, at one time we were business acquaintances on friendly terms. Based in part on information that was provided to me that I did not independently verify, I reached some conclusions about you and your business. Those conclusions colored my perception of you and your company.
In response to the conclusions I reached about you, I said some things and published statements about your company that were more than likely defamatory. I made statements regarding the status of your discharge from the military, wrongfully accused you of being responsible for putting marines I know behind bars, accused you of ripping off other people's products, and made negative statements about the way that you operate your business.

My words have had an impact on your life, have unnecessarily cost you and your company the loss of potential business, and pushed you to the point where you felt it was necessary to file a lawsuit against me to resolve our issues. I hereby apologize to you for the untrue things I previously published about you and your company and am sorry for the resulting consequences to you.

I hope that this formal apology can rectify any damage that may have been caused by my actions, and I hope that we can both put this behind us and move on with our lives.
You have my word that I do not intend to say anything about you or your business, positive or negative, to anyone unless compelled by law or court order to do so.

Signed,
Mick Strider, President Strider Knives Inc.
Dated 3-16-06

section 1, part (c), Mick Strider had to allocute as follows:

Mick Strider hereby acknowledges that he has never been deployed as a U.S. Army Ranger. Strider also acknowledges that he has never served in or participated with SOCOM (Special Operations Command). Strider also acknowledges that he has never had any combat experience with any branch of the U.S. Military or U.S.Government Agencies, nor has he participated in any "Black Ops". Strider served in 2/75, but never graduated Ranger School. Strider lost all rank, was barred from re-enlistment and was discharged from the Military as a Private.

AND


In part (d) of the settlement, Strider is compelled to set the record straight wherever and whenever such lies are outted!!

(d) To the extent that any contrary representations have been made or are made in the future, by any other person or entity, Strider agrees he shall take the following affirmative steps within three (3) weeks after notice by Plaintiffs:
(1) send a letter via certified mail to the person or entity identified by the Plaintiffs affirming all of the information set forth in the first sentence of this paragraph and a request that any contrary representations be immediately corrected, and (2) send a copy of that letter and a certified mail receipt to Plaintiffs or their attorneys of record. Notice shall be deemed effective on Strider by sending a letter to Strider at his last known address or by sending a letter to his attorney of record in this litigation via certified mail.

(e)SKI will immediately cease and desist from holding Strider out as having ever been deployed as a U.S. Army Ranger, a member of or a participant with SOCOM, as having ever been deployed in "black ops", or as having had any combat experience with any branch of the U.S.Military or U.S. Government. SKI shall take immediate actions to correct any such representations currently made on its own website (see Exhibit B) and to the extent possible shall take immediate actions to correct any such representations by its business partners, including but not limited to advertising regarding SKI's partnership and distribution through Buck Knives.

(f) Strider agrees not to defame Plaintiffs in the future.

(g) The Parties acknowledge that the proceeding subdivisions are all material covenants to the settlement of this disupte and that should enforcement of this agreement be necessary, Defendants agree that injunctive relief would be appropriate.

My Questions regarding these statements are:

1. Is what was printed there True or False?
2. If there are inaccuracies, what specifically is not correct?
3. What is your source?


I have reposted this as its own thread as there was no response in the cold steel/strider one. I am still interested in knowing if what was posted was correct.
 
hey, whatcha got there?? I do believe its one of the biggest cans of worms I've ever seen. But, if you are really that interested, all the information you would need to confirm or prove false is contained within that quote, got the (apparent) case number and everything.
 
Why start yet another thread covering this garbage? It's already been covered to death.
 
What a dumbass thing to say and post here after the whole length of the other thread.... errrr.... threads.

If you are so concerned with the history of Strider knives or any of their people, why don't you just ask them personally instead of trying to start some soap opera. I am sure you can find websites with contact us email addresses, maybe even a phone number.

Then, go talk about it at tacticle forum.
 
Why start yet another thread covering this garbage? It's already been covered to death.

No, it hasn't. Is that some poor attempt of a jedi mind trick or why do the Strider-"friends" say that over and over again without answering the question?
I really don't care anymore - but this hasn't been "covered to death".
 
What's this all about? First I have heard about it. Strider is a wannabee? Holy crap. I am disallusioned for sure now. keepem sharp
 
Hillary, you've been a member here at BF for nearly 5 years and your only 2 posts are in the last few days "cut and pasting" stuff to stir up things.

What's up with that?
 
If you can't aswer the question, then just don't do it, or really give Hillary the email-adress to ask the man himself.
There is no point in making Hillary shut up.
 
i learn't about a political system where asking embarrasing questions was discouraged... and instead of providing answers the questioner was always attacked and persectuted..

i have seen that in two threads here and it is disturbing
 
Anyone here see anybody being "persectuted"?

For the record folks, I could care less about the Strider thing, wouldn't buy one of his knives if I could afford one :D I just found it a little "odd" that after 5 years of silence, someones only posts were cut and paste from another forum.

Now please continue Strider Wars Episode V while I get my popcorn. :D
 
Anyone here see anybody being "persectuted"?

For the record folks, I could care less about the Strider thing, wouldn't buy one of his knives if I could afford one :D I just found it a little "odd" that after 5 years of silence, someones only posts were cut and paste from another forum.

Now please continue Strider Wars Episode V while I get my popcorn. :D
Five pages and a lock. ;)
 
I just found it a little "odd" that after 5 years of silence, someones only posts were cut and paste from another forum.

Maybe it's because the question isn't that unimportant to some people. I mean it would explain a lot of things if the stuff from TFC is true.

For example, what about the discontinued Buck/Strider collaboration. The Strider-friends made a big deal out of it ("Fuck Buck!") and said Buck "stabbed Mick in the back". Oh really?
All they did was selling a striped knife (Ghostrider - GoStrider?) that doesn't look very much like a Strider, except for the stripes and one single ancle at the back of the grip. Maybe they were expecting this reaction from SKI because they knew how they feel about "ripping of their stripes".
:jerkit:


For those who don't understand what I'm talking about: If the stuff from TFC is true, that would mean that Strider lied to Buck!
 
Maybe it's because the question isn't that unimportant to some people. I mean it would explain a lot of things if the stuff from TFC is true.

Then learn to use a search button and you will be able to stop saying "if", most of this stuff is heavily documented all over the web. :)
 
Why post this here, Mick no longer participates here. Strider has their own forum and their company has a toll free number. Just call Mick and ask him the question, I am sure the answer will be enlightening!!:D

Most of the accusations are older than mold and have been played out so many times that the word redundant came to mind three years ago!!!!

I do not know Mick , never met the man so I am not the one to run to his aid. But at some point enough has got to be enough and we have been there far too many times to count.

Geez, there is so much positive stuff in the knife industry to talk about instead of this crap, but that's my opinion. (as I twirl a 2X4 in my right hand:D :p )

So when this thread turns into a shiitfest after 10 pages, like usual, someone will just start another thread:rolleyes:

Freakin witch-hunt once again, huh?
 
You mean like the witch hunt when Buck was the witch? Or the witch hunt when Maxpedition was the witch? Or when Böker was the witch because of their Armed Forces Tanto folder?

:barf: :barf: :barf:
 
If you contact Mick and get the answer I think you will get, then you could try contacting Chris Osman at Tactical Assault Gear. I'm not sure, but you might get the same response from him that you get from Mick. Other than that, you could try contacting the Superior Court of the State of California, for the County of San Diego, North County Division.
 
Well, I personally found this interesting.

Is it any of my business and do I give a shit? No. Is it fascinating watching this drama play out in the knife world? Absolutely!

If that document is in fact legit it's the first time I've seen proof of Mick lying about his military service, before this it was all hearsay.
 
I heard some guy was lying about something. I think I'll go ask that guy so I can get the truth...
 
Why rely on second, third, fourth, fifth, or sixth hand information ? :rolleyes:

Go directly where the legal documents are. The "case number" isn't correct at "Tactical Forums." What is provided below is.

Case Detail: TACTICAL ASSUALT GEAR vs STRIDER KNIVES INC
Case Number: GIN046566
Case Site: North County
Case Type: Civil
Date Filed: 08/09/2005
Category: A60508 Libel

Plaintiff/Petitioner: Tactical Assualt Gear / Osman, Chris

Defendant/Respondent:

Strider Knives Inc.
Burger, Mickey R.
Mick Stider
Strider, Mick


Documents can be obtained from:

North County Regional Center
Business Office/Records
325 South Melrose
Vista, CA 92081
760-726-9595
 
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