Stropping leather thoughts?

I got a cordovan horsehide strop given to me about 20 years ago and it still is hanging in there. I t was a gift from Kramer Leather. I just Goggle "Kramer Leather, Tacoma, WA" and their site came up and they still offer the same strop. John

Treat that strop with some shoe cream 2-3 times a year, and it will still be in perfect condition when your grandchildren pass it on to their children. I have my grandfather's strop hanging in the house, given to me by my father. My son is about to have his second child, and I'll pass that strop on to him.
Properly treated and used, a good quality strop becomes an heirloom.


Stitchawl
 
Stitch,

A very well written review of Horse leather strops! No disagreements with what you've said. I still like Kangaroo leather more, but if the world runs out of Kangaroos, I'd definitely go for a good horse butt!

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Ken
 
Stitch,

A very well written review of Horse leather strops! No disagreements with what you've said. I still like Kangaroo leather more, but if the world runs out of Kangaroos, I'd definitely go for a good horse butt!

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Ken


Thank you. We all have our own personal preferences. That's probably a good thing too.


Stitchawl
 
This thread is yet another of Stitchawl's thoroughly descriptive write-ups I've bookmarked for reference. I have a dedicated 'Strops' bookmark folder in my browser, most of which is occupied by his posts on the topic.

Thanks once again, Stitch. :thumbup:


David :)
 
This thread is yet another of Stitchawl's thoroughly descriptive write-ups I've bookmarked for reference. I have a dedicated 'Strops' bookmark folder in my browser, most of which is occupied by his posts on the topic.

Thanks once again, Stitch. :thumbup:
David :)


Thanks for the kind words, David. I appreciate it. If I were a humble man, I'd probably blush. :D


Stitchawl
 
While the 'result' is a harder leather, the primary goal is to 'compress' rather than harden. The secondary goal is to cause the silicates within the cell structure to migrate to the surface. Remember, it's those silicates that are needed to do the abrasive polishing with a bare strop. If you just wanted 'hard' leather, you could use a piece of rawhide. Or not use leather at all. Cardboard works well when used bare, as does the cover of National Geographic. Not as good as bare leather (as the abrasives in them are of a larger grit size,) but both are hard, cheap, and easily found.

With that secondary goal in mind, 'my' thinking is that it would be better to roll longer rather than press harder. If you look at the Horween video, you can see their process. It's a repeated rolling action rather than a single hard pressing. I'm sure there are machines that could 'press' the leather down with a single stroke, compressing it as thin as could be in a single time-saving action, but that doesn't seem to give the desired result... Cordovan Leather, the closest approximation to the Russian Red Leather process. That old process involved pulling the hides back and forth over the rounded ends of logs for several days, rather than just pressing them down with heavy weights.

When I make my strops, I make sure that the leather has been thoroughly wetted, allowed to dry for an hour or so, then with the leather on a smooth hard surface (the marble kitchen counter,) I use an ordinary rolling pin and the same pressure I use for rolling out a pie crust, rolling end to end, and occasionally turning the leather over. I put some good music on, and roll until I'm so damn bored I can't roll any more... usually about 30 minutes. This produces an excellent piece of leather to use for a bare strop. Then it's up to you how you want to complete it; bench mount or hanging.


Stitchawl
Stitchawl, would you use this method if you were applying compound to the leather, or just use the leather as it is?
 
I have had strops made from Horween Shell Cordovan Leather and it is really good leather if you get the stuff from China it is not as good or durable and it does not have the same softness to it.

If you want to try something new for a strop try a peace of MDF Medium Density Fiberboard it's dirt cheap and works great.

Does horse shell cordovan make the best material for a razor strop? What about the equivalent bit of fibrous rump muscle from other animals? Say water buffalos or yaks or whatever?
 
Thanks, i have been thinking of trying wood[ balsa ] but i have trouble getting my head around using wood. But i will give it a try. Thanks for your reply and help.
 
It’s weird the things I’ve heard of people stropping with. Blue jeans, cardboard etc. I scuffed the blade at work one day and out of curiosity, walked over to a oven that had just been delivered. Still in w box. Started stropping lightly and sure as heck it worked. Ya never know...
 
Thank you for your input. In a way we all have different ideas and preferences, and i think this can stop us from experimenting and trying different things. Have a good day mate.
 
You'll find it's not so much the medium you use to strop with as it is the diamond paste and other factors,I use diamond paste you can get off of ebay just type in poltava diamond paste,I have used MDF as well as Ash for strop with my K02 sharpener's and you can push and pull strop with a guided system as well,you can still use MDF for a or Ash Oak or any really good hardwood just so long as you plane it and then I sand mine to about 1000 grit and your done,with the MDF there is no need to sand it.

You can get it in standard 4 Carat or higher but don't go any higher then 10 Carat you will find if you go higher then 10 the diamonds will clump and act like a coarser grit,getting it off ebay is way cheaper for the amount you get when compared to other diamond paste's that are made for stropping,the stuff come's from the Ukraine off of ebay in most case's if you type in what I mentioned above.

The from the Ukraine is just as good as any diamond paste I have used and with with a brand new strop it's not long before it starts to to turn grey from the metal being removed.

Thanks, i have been thinking of trying wood[ balsa ] but i have trouble getting my head around using wood. But i will give it a try. Thanks for your reply and help.
 
I've been using either white or green compounds I got with a piece of leather from ebay,but while it gets decent results, its hard as a brick and has to be heated to spread on a strop. I just recently got some diamond paste, an additional strop and also a kangaroo strop. So I put a coating of paste on the new leather and will keep the kanga leather as a plain for the final touch. I coated the diamond last night and let it sit overnight to dry...
 
sickpuppy, i may be able to help you here. I've had great success with applying white or green compound to leather strops using this method. Place the leather strop in the sun or window sill for about 30 mins. till it warms up. Rub some vegetable lard on the tip of your finger and rub into the leather, not to much, just enough to smear the leather. Rub your compound onto the strop then rub in with paper towel till well covered. I have had great success with this method. Hope this helps.
 
sickpuppy, in last post i sent, disregard vegetable lard. No such thing, i meant just lard. Sorry if i confused you.
 
The leather is not too hard or dry, the compound is, but gently warming the leather and the lard makes it much more receptive of the compound. You can also leave the compound out with the strop, but it can become a bit gluggy. Spreading it while it is still warm, with the paper towel gives it a really good coating. Hope this cleared it up for you.
 
Stitchawl, would you use this method if you were applying compound to the leather, or just use the leather as it is?

Cudgee, I'd use this method if I wanted the strop to last a long time. rather than how I'm going to use it. If you are using 'throw-away' junk leather and don't much care if it lasts only a few years, don't bother. But if you've taken the time to properly process the leather (case and roll) before gluing it down, and would like it to last several generations, by all means 'feed' the leather. I have a hanging strop that is well over 100 years old, and still looks and feels new! The bench strop that I use without compound, a nice piece of shell cordovan horsehide, gets 'feed' twice a year. I've used it for the past 25 years, and it will still be in pristine condition when I give it to my grandson. Just 2-3 pea-sized drops of any lanolin based shoe cream or hand lotion rubbed into the leather with the heel of your hand once or twice a year.... unless you clean your strop with a strong solvent. In that case, feed after cleaning. Sparingly. You don't want the leather to feel oily.


Stitchawl
 
Thanks for your help, you have been very informative. I am going to make some strops after i have cased the leather, so want them to last. Thanks again. Cudgee.
 
I was telling a guy at work about this because he buys redwing american made work boots, but never gets but 2 years out of them due to leather issues.They get cracked and nasty looking due to water and snow. I know others who take the time to treat the leather and yet they have to be resoled 2-3 times before they're getting too worn. It's all about how you take care of them.Your strop really needs the same care and rewards you accordingly..
 
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