Students: Do You Carry At School

bowler1/Matt - Most of you would have probably called me stupid and irresponsible if you met me ten years ago. I certainly did a lot of things that got me into trouble and a whole lot more that could have gotten me into a whole lot more trouble, if I hadn't been so lucky
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. I was 14 years old at the time and had a lot of anger and frustration, and no respect for the law or other people's property. I carried knives then because I was a badass. I never hurt, cut, attacked, or fought with other people - that wasn't my thing. Anyway, that was a long time ago. I no longer carry spiked brass knuckles or switchblades anywhere. I no longer fail attitude tests with authority figures. I am a good student at my university, will be going to grad school for my doctorate a year from now. I don't even carry illegal knives anymore (except for sometimes violating Oakland and Berkeley's 3" limit occassionally), and I don't lead a violent or criminal lifestyle in any way. When I was 14 years old, my attitudes, behaviors, and interests were definitely not in keeping within the boundaries of that for which this forum exists, now, I believe they are firmly within it.

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Jason aka medusaoblongata
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"I have often laughed at the weaklings who call themselves kind because they have no claws"

- Zarathustra
 
Alfalfa,
It's important to read all the fine print. Although much more restrictive with respect to kindergarten and grade schools, section 626.10 only bans fixed blades over 2 1/2" from college campuses, and even then, makes an exception for: "lawful use in food preparation or consumption."

Back in my days at SFSU, ('73-'77 and '80-'84) I always carried a knife. Of course, that was when it was still considered normal behavior for a man to have a pocket knife, and the phrase "zero tolerance" hadn't even been invented yet.

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Dave

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I carry whatever folder I want at University of Washington. I don't think there are any rules against it. When I worked at the student union building (The HUB) my boss asked me why I carried SO MANY knives...but it didn't seem as though there was anything intrinsically wrong with it.

In highschool I did't really see a need for a knife. I didn't have a campus job that required the use of a knife, so a Leatherman Micra was fine.

~Mitch
 
Dave,
Thanks for correcting my mistaken interpretation of section 626.10. Sometimes, when searching through lengthy sections of legal code, I tend to scan the material rather than read it. Oops! It is good to know however, that I can legally carry my CQC7 on campus
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Towards the end of the school year, I sometimes didn't bother to take my Spydercard out of my wallet before going to school. It also accompanied me during graduation. It's a small knife but I love the design and ease of carry.

The college I'm headed to in the fall doesn't consider knives with blades under six inches to be deadly weapons so it looks like I'll be free to carry there, though I won't be taking most of my collection to the campus. Now if only it was easier to choose what to take . . .

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Simon Yu

"I look at it this way. If things get much worse I'll be too dead to care."
 
Originally posted by evasion:
I'm in grade 12 and in my province there is a zero tolerance policy. No knives. For the past year I took a SAK or a schrade stockmen to school, and left my AFCK at home. How many times have you been asked to empty your pockets(not including medusa
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)? Are they legally allowed to search you if you havn't done anything wrong, or without suspicion?
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Ok then. In Ontario, a search without reasonable suspicion is illegal. If you are asked to empty your pockets by a teacher/principal/whatever, and you say "No," you may be giving them just that, because the first thing that's going to run through their minds is: "Ok, so what's he hiding?" So really, there's no winning.

I carried a tremendously lousy pocket knife when I was in high school, but that was VERY pre-Columbine. If you absolutely must carry, make it small (< 3" blade), & make it something you can clip INSIDE your pants near the fly (no educator in the free world will attempt a "pat down" near your groin), & hide the clip under a belt. (I carry my Gerber Covert folder like this - bouncers usually won't get that close to your "gear" either.) This way, your pockets are safe to empty.

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Yeah, well, people ... They're just not my bag

[This message has been edited by willOthewisp (edited 08-03-2000).]
 
Here, in California, when they asked me to empty my pockets, I said, "no" and they started talking about the police, and how if there was a situation they couldn't deal with, they just call the police, etc., etc., blah blah blah. And I started thinkin' 'do I want to be searched by these two bozos or the police?' So I thought up, on the spot, a way to empty my pants pockets & pull out the white lining, without pulling out the switchblade in the pocket. YMMV, but it worked for me that time.

Carry where willOthewisp recommends, or, if you go beltless, flip the knife around so the clip clips inside your underwear. The BM 350 is a great knife to do this with.

BTW, James, I was only caught with a small folding knife. They missed the rest.


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Jason aka medusaoblongata
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"I have often laughed at the weaklings who call themselves kind because they have no claws"

- Zarathustra
 
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