suggest a knife in 154cm

S30V is not in the same category as 154CM. However, VG10, 154CM, and ATS34 is in the same category.

Emerson CQC anything.
 
I didn't see that one. It looks a little too "tactical" for me. I found a Kershaw Blur that claims to have 154CM, I might pull the trigger on that one.
 
Muaddib1116 said:
Are you saying that S30V is not as good as 154CM, VG10, and ATS34, or the opposite?
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It's a little better in edge retention and a little worse in toughness than the others. Not all that different in my opinion; the biggest difference between S30V and the other steels to me is that S30V was the only one specifically formulated for knives. BTW 154CM and ATS34 are the same formulation and the same steel; just one's made in Japan and one's made in America. There are still a fair number of knives with this steel, but it's an older option that's being overshadowed by newer supersteels.

There are also a couple of cheaper knives with that steel from Buck that you could look at.
 
Muaddib1116 said:
I didn't see that one. It looks a little too "tactical" for me. I found a Kershaw Blur that claims to have 154CM, I might pull the trigger on that one.
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You are thinking abut CPM-154, a different steel than regular 154CM. Th CPM steels are much cleaner and have more homogenous carbide distribution than the non CPM steels. That paticular orange Blur is a great knife.
As for S30V, there are tons of people that hate it, typically because they are unable to sharpen a knife once it gets dull. Other people love it because it holds a really good edge even after a lot of use. This characteristic depends on the heat treat formula that manufacturers use. I have had no problems with the S30V blades from Benchmade, Kershaw/ZT, Spyderco, HTM, or Lonewolf (pre-Benchmade). They are both classified as stainless steels, but I would not say that one is better than the other (depending on your intended use), they are just different.

Don't overthink and over complicate this. Buy a knife you like, try it, learn what you like and don't like about it. Overanalyzing the process of owning a knife and using a knife takes the fun right out of it.
 
RevDevil said:
You are thinking abut CPM-154, a different steel than regular 154CM. Th CPM steels are much cleaner and have more homogenous carbide distribution than the non CPM steels. That paticular orange Blur is a great knife.
As for S30V, there are tons of people that hate it, typically because they are unable to sharpen a knife once it gets dull. Other people love it because it holds a really good edge even after a lot of use. This characteristic depends on the heat treat formula that manufacturers use. I have had no problems with the S30V blades from Benchmade, Kershaw/ZT, Spyderco, HTM, or Lonewolf (pre-Benchmade). They are both classified as stainless steels, but I would not say that one is better than the other (depending on your intended use), they are just different.

Don't overthink and over complicate this. Buy a knife you like, try it, learn what you like and don't like about it. Overanalyzing the process of owning a knife and using a knife takes the fun right out of it.
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Ah, the riddle of steel... Crom! talk to me!

It's not that I'm looking for a first knife. I have plenty, mostly Spyderco. I'm just looking to expand my steel collection, but I don't want to pay for a knife I won't like just for the steel. Thus the request for suggestions for more knives.

Thanks for the further education about some steel options.
 
Get one of the Benchmade Grips, full size or Mini and you will have some bucks left over.
 
It is possible to find the Benchmade 746 Mini-Onslaught for $120. (Not counting shipping though.)

Look around for dealers that sell under the Minimum Advertised Price Policy (MAPP).

You might have to set-up an account in order to get the better price.

Edited to add:

The information that is posted above is outdated and no longer applies because Benchmade no longer allows their dealers to sell under the MAPP price policy.
 
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GCG199 said:
It is possible to find the Benchmade 746 Mini-Onslaught for $120. (Not counting shipping though.)

Look around for dealers that sell under the Minimum Advertised Price Policy (MAPP).

You might have to set-up an account in order to get the better price.
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Very true. I can tell you now without causing trouble that GPknives is one of them (they're a BF dealer). They get around the MAAP policy by not advertising their lower prices, but rather offering a coupon code. There's only one other authorized dealer I know of that does this.
 
00ChevyScott said:
Benchmade 950 Rift. Retail is well over your limit but they pop up on the exchange for under $120 all the time. I love mine

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Thanks a lot Chevy, my cravings for the Rift had just about subsided......until you posted that drool worthy picture :D
 
ono724 said:
Thanks a lot Chevy, my cravings for the Rift had just about subsided......until you posted that drool worthy picture :D
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yes, yes, yes, yes, great knife love it looks mean to but on gp knives you can get it for 115$ :)
 
crazyengineer said:
benchmade barrage 580, though it is 140

definately the best knife i have bought to date and well worth it
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If you shop around you can find a 580 and a 585 for $100 or less, especially used ones here on the forums. I see those for about $95 pretty often.

And yes, I would also suggest the 580/585, my 580 is a fantastic knife and I LOVE the 154cm.
 
Here is an interesting alternative if you (a) are ok to spend more and (b) are quick: Böker does their annual xmas sale, and the lovely Zirconia is getting out of production and thus on sale in its limited anniversary format (2 colors anodisation, white micarta onlay). It is a modern design with titanium handle that looks a bit like a Klötzli, ATS 34 (same formula as 154 CM, just made elsewhere). I mention it because it is 55% OFF the usual price now and truly a nice top quality knife...

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