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How To Suggestions on "How a deal ought to go down"

Discussion in 'FEEDBACK: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly!' started by PeteyTwoPointOne, May 21, 2017.

  1. KELAMA

    KELAMA

    Jun 28, 2013
    ^ I remember that one specific sale. :D


    ^ :thumbsup: Truth!

    I've given up even asking anymore.

    I'm also a member on CalGuns. It's pretty entertaining to say the least; when a seller is very adamant, regarding strict posting rules in their sales thread. It never works! :D

    I've begun to wonder: are some of these people just plain moron's, who truly don't know any better? If this trend keeps up, I'm going to have to start implementing those "reverse psychology" tricks- those games you typically play on a 5 year old. v
    Please feel free to ask all question and make lowball offer's or one sided trade offer's directly in my sales thread.

    In many instances, these people have paid memberships, and could easily use of the "conversation" feature. :rolleyes:

    The people I refuse to deal with, are the one's who post an "I'll take it," in your sales thread, followed by a stipulation. :thumbsdown:
     
  2. stonesell

    stonesell Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 20, 2009
    I've also tried adding rules to my sales threads, asking people not to post questions or negotiations. I've since given up on the idea. If the thread becomes too cluttered, I just withdraw the whole thing, wait the two weeks, and then try again
     
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  3. hhmoore

    hhmoore Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 7, 2014
    I suspect the incident to which you are referring was one in which I was a buyer; so it isn't as directly applicable...but, you are correct, I won't post in ads as a buyer, either (except to possibly inform the seller that his inbox is full...and, in most of those cases, I never return to check to see if they cleared it).

    Unfortunately, the typical response to my posted request for private communications was that people disregarded it...which only made me more adamant on the matter. Eventually, I started posting that I would refuse to sell to people that posted in my ads - and following through on that. I'm sure it loses me some easy sales; but I don't particularly care about that...if a knife doesn't sell, I get to keep it :D. Now I lock my ads as soon as I have a commitment to purchase - it takes me out of the ratings game; but I'm okay with that, too.
     
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  4. Lone_Wolfe

    Lone_Wolfe Dazed and Confused Platinum Member

    May 3, 2011
    Maybe not shady, but just a controlling personality. Either way, I pretty much leave those threads alone anymore. Same with the ones that put a bunch of other rules to where it makes me think of a drill sergeant standing there barking out orders. It's easy enough to just go find another knife.

    Now negotiations, I understand. All offers should be done privately. I also won't tell one person what I sold the knife to or bought from another for, as the other party may not want that info shared.
     
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  5. PeteyTwoPointOne

    PeteyTwoPointOne Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jun 10, 2014
    *bump*
     
  6. Lance Leon

    Lance Leon Gold Member Gold Member

    557
    May 3, 2017
    I post one photo per knife in each sales thread, then link off to imgur where the rest of the photos are uploaded. Why? I want people to know what knives I've listed at a glance, but also keep the thread as clutter free as possible. I often list 10 or more knives per thread, and it'd be hell for me and the potential buyers to sort through 60-100 photos (I don't even know if a thread will allow that many photos in it). I don't see what's difficult about 'right click + open in new tab' or even just 'left clicking' the links. But sure, if having to click on a link or two is gonna ruin your happy fun times, then I'm sorry.
     
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  7. PeteyTwoPointOne

    PeteyTwoPointOne Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jun 10, 2014
    Well, I started the thread with suggestions. I asked other members to add in their own personal tips.

    I'd say the idea of posting up pics in the original, actual sales thread is primarily a matter of convenience and having everything related to the sale in one single, clean, space = Bladeforums :thumbsup:. Second to that is the fact that some members just may not trust being sent to other sites off BF for security purposes or getting spammed by a lot of banners and stuff that jams up your CPU.

    If I'm lusting after a particular blade, I'll follow a series of links taking me to Timbuktu to get to it. :D So it isn't a huge deal for me.

    OTOH, if I get sent to some wonky hosting site-- phtobucket, I'm looking at you :mad:-- that takes 8-10 sec and the page still isn't loaded, I'll shell out of it. First world problems, I realize, but still, it's a pet peeve of mine to have to WAIT ON COMPUTERS. It cuts into the time I need to keep the neighbor kids off my lawn :rolleyes:
     
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  8. Heirphoto

    Heirphoto Gold Member Gold Member

    951
    Jun 13, 2007
    Often when people scan the for sale sections they see a listing with several replies, assume the item has sold and move on without even opening the post to see what the replies are.
     
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  9. Dadpool

    Dadpool

    May 18, 2015
    To this I'll add, "Disclose, disclose, disclose."

    If I've sent a knife in for warranty, that will be in the listing. Things I don't consider an issue (cosmetic centering, let's say), but that others might, get the same treatment. Used and/or carried will be noted, of course.

    As a seller, I'm happiest when the buyer says that the knife they received exceeded their expectations. As a buyer, I want to know this stuff. No matter how pretty the pictures are, not having a thorough description of the knife is an easy way to lose my interest.

    Heck, even if it's brand new I still want to know things about it that you can't see in a photo. If I'm rolling the dice on a private sale, rather than a purchase from an OLKS with a good return policy (who will also inspect my knife for my specific wants before shipping it out), I want to know that a new knife matches what I'm after out of a new knife.
     
  10. TRfromMT

    TRfromMT Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 4, 2016
    I'm one of these. For the reason that when you are in the front sales thread area, seeing a sales thread with a number of replies already would make it more likely for some to assume it's already sold and scroll right on past

    Not to mention the really dumb trade offers and lowballs and other stuff new guys ask.

    Weather or not I like the handle ergonomics has nothing to do with the condition of a knife for sale. Maybe I should say not to ask irrelevant questions.

    I hadn't considered this may come across as shady.
     
  11. PeteyTwoPointOne

    PeteyTwoPointOne Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jun 10, 2014
    This is a good position to take, IMHO:thumbsup:

    But I've started requesting "No questions in sales threads, PM please" -- which is a change for me...I used to have no preference one way or the other.

    It's my more simplistic take on Van Halen's brown M&M contract rider. It just shows me who doesn't read the description fully. Kinda like an litmus test / idiot test. I almost always still answer the question, in the thread itself-- no less, in a cordial manner without even saying, "I SAID NO QUES in the thread!"

    If you've never heard of VH's no brown M&M rider...watch the vid I linked...it's ingenious and 100% purposeful:

     
  12. Lapedog

    Lapedog Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 7, 2016
    This is a great little guide.

    For me #1 rule to a good transaction is fast and good communication. If one party is going to be busy and unable to send a long detailed email or message a little: “I’m busy at work and have to pick up the kids from piano practice. I’ll message you tonight or tomorrow morning.” can go a long way.

    Most deals it seems like if both parties communicate well and have good intentions the deal will end with both parties willing to post a positive feedback.

    Whenever shipping knives package the knife very will. Lots of postmen THROW the package onto the front door step using the front door as a backboard.

    Another little thing I do is wrap some rubber bands around a closed folding knife I am shipping so that way there is no way the blade can open even partially and have the tip or blade damaged.
     
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  13. benchwarmer380

    benchwarmer380 Valyrian Member Platinum Member

    Sep 17, 2012

    I personally don't mind pertinent questions in the thread as it will benefit the person asking and others that are interested and had the same question. Offers, trade or otherwise, don't belong in a thread and should be reserved for private correspondence.

    I have browsed enough to know that the post count of a sales thread can have no bearing on if the item(s) are sold or still available. IMO, if the potential buyer skips over an ad of a knife they may want because of post count, they probably weren't too interested in it in the first place if they wont take the 10 or so seconds it takes to check.*

    Editing the thread title with SOLD and the first post are the best way let everyone know what's up. (Others have mentioned that that doesn't even stop all the questions from days to months later asking if it is still available.)


    *A little side note to this, even if there are posts and an I'll take it in the thread, calling seconds doesn't hurt. My brother has completed a fair amount of deals here from calling seconds or even thirds because the first few inline backed out for whatever reason.
     

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