Summer carry

G19 in my IWB Raven phantom holster or my G26 in MTac holster( disappears under a tshirt),good gun belt is a must to help properly secure and conceal your carry piece.
 
I agree with the Kimber Solo and Springfield XDS.. No one has mentioned the S+W Bodyguard 380.. Going shopping tomorrow myself; picking up my PT92 :D and gonna peruse some wheelguns and backup guns...
 
I go with a Glock 30 at least -pretty small, 100% reliable but with a tshirt and jeans its lmost always a Glock 21SF, though i do love the 19/26 guns....always carry enough gun, dont end up wishing you had more in a critical situation.
 
cricketdave said:
I know its old school and only 2 shots but the bond derringer is a terrific little gun. You can get just about any caliber barrels and it fits easily in a pocket.
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The problem with the Bond--or any--Derringer is the difficulty of cocking the hammer. The hammer springs tend to be very strong, and the handles are generally round and slick. I worked, long ago, part time for a gun store and you would not believe the number of people who can barely do it with one hand or can't do it at all, and that's when they have all the time in the world, and are under no pressure. Now, advance to the situation you'd actually be facing if you ever (unlikely, but this IS the reason people carry) are faced with having to cock the hammer under duress, while trying to fight off somebody with your other hand...somebody who probably sees that you're going for something and is then going to be doing everything they can to either grab/knock it away from you or get a death grip on your gun arm. They are well made (by FAR the best derringer on the market in terms of materials/construction/quality control) but they're still a derringer and that means they're clumsy to operate for most people, horribly inaccurate in most hands (the barrels aren't even regulated and seldom engage the bullet for more than 3/4" before it is out and on its way, nevermind the over-hard trigger pull and crappy sights) and they're also pretty big and heavy for the total of two shots they provide you.

I'm a huge advocate of concealed carry but--and yes this is just my opinion--as far as I'm concerned, if you can't draw it, operate it and fire it quickly and accurately with one hand, you're not armed. Most people drive about a thousand times more often than they shoot, and when something unexpected happens that scares them, they wreck their car despite all of that experience. Try getting ahold of/operating a hammer when you've got a couple seconds to save your life. If you have and love the derringer, start practicing like holy hell--draw/cock/point over and over again, starting with your hand in a position that's NOT directly over the gun. Do it fifty times a night (unloaded of course) until it starts becoming as natural a muscular control motion as riding your bike. Put the time and effort in, because you've chosen one of the most difficult pieces of gear there is to be effective with.

I just switched to a FNX-9 for CC, but carried a Glock 21 for years, summer or winter, rain or shine. Tucked sticky holster in the last couple of years, no loops or clips showing, and you can't tell I have my full sized pistol even in shorts and a T-shirt. Smaller gun would be more comfortable, but while I'm effective with small guns, I'm damned effective with full sized guns, and if I ever end up in the situation of having to defend myself here at home, I'd far rather be damned effective.
 
I can recommend one pocket pistol to AVOID, the Sig Sauer P238. I've had two, they were both jam happy pieces of crap. Mind you, I love Sig, and my P226 is my favorite pistol.
They just really blew it with the P238.
 
i took a little trip to the gun store last night to see what this kahr was all about. I have large hands and it was still almost shockingly comfortable. this might be in my very near future. Nakatomi, im dissapointed to hear about the p238. i had though about getting one myself but now i feel that i should reconsider. thanks for everyones input im still open to more suggestions
 
rafa1 said:
G19 in my IWB Raven phantom holster or my G26 in MTac holster( disappears under a tshirt),good gun belt is a must to help properly secure and conceal your carry piece.
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Absolutely critical, especially if you're carrying anything larger than a "pocket pistol". I highly recommend The Beltman without reservation. I have several from him (even got a GREAT deal on a Sharkskin one that was ordered by another customer and immediately returned due to sizing problems), and recommend the horsehide ones overall. I wear one everyday, and they're great belts that last. You won't be disappointed.

gk4ever2 said:
Kahr, Kel-Tec and Ruger are made in the US; the XD-S is not.
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True about the XD-s, or any XD for that matter. So what? Glock is not made in the US either, but you don't see too many people complaining about that. They're an Austrian company even. You would be hard pressed to find more of a US firearm company than Springfield. I'm one of the first to support Made in the USA whenever possible. This is the next best thing; still supporting a US company where most of the profit is staying here. At least it isn't made in China... :barf:

PS - Forgot to mention, I had a dream last night about impulse buying a new XD-S the first time I looked at one for $515. I never do that. Weird.
 
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Late to the party, Beef call me I carry lots of small guns because it is HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT in AZ
I also make little kydex rigs that work great and do not absorb sweat in your pocket or on your person.
Old Buy Brownie Clause will take care of you too :)

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the solution for the hard spring is a competition spring from bond, lowers the force needed to cock and still has plenty of power. An action job doesn't hurt either, I've consistently hit 2 targets in competitions at around .98 sec which was no where near a winning time. Now that is not with self defense ammo even remotely so recoil is going to slow that second shot a lot. Not saying its a perfect concealed gun but it does work. Lots of great choices out there. Just though I would throw that one out for sheer diversity.


t1mpani said:
The problem with the Bond--or any--Derringer is the difficulty of cocking the hammer. The hammer springs tend to be very strong, and the handles are generally round and slick. I worked, long ago, part time for a gun store and you would not believe the number of people who can barely do it with one hand or can't do it at all, and that's when they have all the time in the world, and are under no pressure. Now, advance to the situation you'd actually be facing if you ever (unlikely, but this IS the reason people carry) are faced with having to cock the hammer under duress, while trying to fight off somebody with your other hand...somebody who probably sees that you're going for something and is then going to be doing everything they can to either grab/knock it away from you or get a death grip on your gun arm. They are well made (by FAR the best derringer on the market in terms of materials/construction/quality control) but they're still a derringer and that means they're clumsy to operate for most people, horribly inaccurate in most hands (the barrels aren't even regulated and seldom engage the bullet for more than 3/4" before it is out and on its way, nevermind the over-hard trigger pull and crappy sights) and they're also pretty big and heavy for the total of two shots they provide you.

I'm a huge advocate of concealed carry but--and yes this is just my opinion--as far as I'm concerned, if you can't draw it, operate it and fire it quickly and accurately with one hand, you're not armed. Most people drive about a thousand times more often than they shoot, and when something unexpected happens that scares them, they wreck their car despite all of that experience. Try getting ahold of/operating a hammer when you've got a couple seconds to save your life. If you have and love the derringer, start practicing like holy hell--draw/cock/point over and over again, starting with your hand in a position that's NOT directly over the gun. Do it fifty times a night (unloaded of course) until it starts becoming as natural a muscular control motion as riding your bike. Put the time and effort in, because you've chosen one of the most difficult pieces of gear there is to be effective with.

I just switched to a FNX-9 for CC, but carried a Glock 21 for years, summer or winter, rain or shine. Tucked sticky holster in the last couple of years, no loops or clips showing, and you can't tell I have my full sized pistol even in shorts and a T-shirt. Smaller gun would be more comfortable, but while I'm effective with small guns, I'm damned effective with full sized guns, and if I ever end up in the situation of having to defend myself here at home, I'd far rather be damned effective.
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Oh and I've fired literally thousands of rounds through the bond with either hand just as I have practiced with my revolvers in both hands, it was all part of competing on a high level. I've practiced with my glock as well and keep in practice, but for muscle memory and hitting a target without thought or time I would personally do a lot better with my ruger 44/40.
 
Nakatomi said:
I can recommend one pocket pistol to AVOID, the Sig Sauer P238. I've had two, they were both jam happy pieces of crap. Mind you, I love Sig, and my P226 is my favorite pistol.
They just really blew it with the P238.
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I disagree with this and would in fact recommend the P238. Mine eats whatever I put in it. I have only owned it a month or two but have shot about 2-300 rounds so far (3 different FMJ, and golden saber HP) with ZERO issues. Incredibly accurate for such a small gun. I actually have nothing bad to say about it.
 
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This is my set up: EMP 9mm, Milt Sparks VM2 w/ extra mag holder, on a Beltman belt. If I go .45 Les Baer CVIII w exact holster set up.

 
My dad has that same exact setup, only a black VM2 with the newer Black/Grey G10 grips on the EMP. Black Beltman belt. Black spare mag holder. Black, black, black. See a trend? Nice rig!!! :thumbup: :D

PS - Milt Sparks VM2 FTW!!!
 
My summer EDC. I absolutely hate trying to carry IWB during the Arizona summer so its pocket carry for me.

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i agree, its not as hot here as it is in AZ but still, heat makes it much more uncomfortable to carry IWB in the summer. Humidity is another contributing factor that makes anything more than a pocket gun a pain to carry
 
meluck said:
This is my set up: EMP 9mm, Milt Sparks VM2 w/ extra mag holder, on a Beltman belt. If I go .45 Les Baer CVIII w exact holster set up.

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Sweet set up! I have an EMP 9mm and I love it. I just don't have any nice holsters for it. IWB is okay sometimes but I ain't skinny so it's not too comfortable for me. It is a fairly small pistol, so I think I'll look into holster options for it. Thanks for posting! :thumbup:
 
The original pocket pistol...

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Lil sucker still works great, but the accuracy is pretty bad... even at 'get off me' range. 25 acp is probably the most anemic cartridge in existence... I'd rather have a 22. I don't carry this one for that reason.

Still... it's a cool little pistol.


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I pocket carry a lot. Primarily Kahr PM9 with Win 124 gr. bonded +P hollowpoints. Also Ruger LCP if my pockets are kinda small or I'm dressed up some. As a friend says "Its the gun you carry when you aren't really carrying a gun." Mine has a Crimson Trace laser on it too. Sometimes my thumb will lock slide back on Kahr but I have a really high grip. Zero malfunctions with LCP.

Have had about 6 Kel Tecs over the years...tried the fluff and buffs, etc.. all had a malfunction of some kind. I cannot trust them myself, YMMV.

Two colleauges have the Sig P238 with zero problems.

I tried the Ruger LC9 but the grip is shaped kind of funny for my tastes. It functioned fine though.

Oh yeah, I do have a Smith 642 I carry sometimes too but mostly I leave it at work.
 
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