Summer carry

cricketdave said:
the solution for the hard spring is a competition spring from bond, lowers the force needed to cock and still has plenty of power. An action job doesn't hurt either, I've consistently hit 2 targets in competitions at around .98 sec which was no where near a winning time. Now that is not with self defense ammo even remotely so recoil is going to slow that second shot a lot. Not saying its a perfect concealed gun but it does work. Lots of great choices out there. Just though I would throw that one out for sheer diversity.
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Yep, it can be done, it just takes work---when you do the work (as you obviously have) you'll be effective.

To the point about the Sig 238 reliability issues, I know it won't change the minds of those who've experienced issues, but I also have had zero problems--I have two aluminum frame versions and one all-stainless. I think I had a few failures to feed with the first one when it was new, but use has wrung that issue out of 'em. I probably have 1500 rounds through the all steel one by now with no problems, and a couple hundred through each of the others. A worthwhile point about ANY of the micro-380s: long bullets are not your friend. 100 grain FMJ is often not as reliable as a 90 grain HP, because it's the total cartridge length and not the shape of the bullet nose that is seizing things up. I've found the Gold Dot exceptionally reliable in pistols this size. The other king, in my experience, is the Hornady Critical Defense---the bullet actually is pretty long but it's such an extremely tapered shape that it seems to feed in damned near anything. Even my old Colt 1903 Pocket (DEFINITELY not a fan of hollow points for the most part) feeds them.
 
13ninjas said:
I disagree with this and would in fact recommend the P238. Mine eats whatever I put in it. I have only owned it a month or two but have shot about 2-300 rounds so far (3 different FMJ, and golden saber HP) with ZERO issues. Incredibly accurate for such a small gun. I actually have nothing bad to say about it.
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I tried very hard to give the two I had a fair chance, and scoured the web for solutions. If you Google this model, you will see a lot of people have problems with them. Mainly,
failure to feed was an issue, and problems there can come from magazine issues (the mags were redesigned by Sig a few times to try to fix), there was a recall on some of them, and
the fact that the springs wear out so fast (rated at about 1500 rounds max if I recall). After all the tweaking, buying different gen mags, trying different ammo, and even sending one of them back to Sig, I could never get them reliable to a degree that in any shooting session I wouldn't have at least 2 or 3 failures to feed or failure to fire. Much like the 1911 it's designed after, I think some people just get lucky when they get a good one, and fixing a bad one is almost impossible without a good gunsmith. Since this was a self defense weapon rather than a fun gun for the range, I got rid of them. Anyone who has a good one should probably stock up on firing pin/recoil spring kits and swap them out early in my opinion, maybe 750 rounds.
 
For those interested in the XDs... I assume it has the same trigger as the XDM. Trigger is a very personal thing that differs between individuals. Personally, I think the XDM trigger is horrible. It's way too long and way too much tension for my likes. Stock Glock triggers bug me too... but they are so very easily fixed, cheaply. I am a trigger snob... it's true. :o

On my XDM45, I replaced the factory trigger with the kit from Powder river, and it is now something I can live with. A 13 plus 1 in 45 acp along with a light rail makes for a great nightstand pistol. Add some tritium and i'm in bidness... :D Mine has run 100% with no issues. I'm sure the XDs will be the same.

I'll stick with the Kahr's and Glocks for carry... or the H&K PSP... or the Baer TRS... Or maybe the Brown SF. The DW guardian is a dream to carry... aw man, decisions decisions. ;)


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For a pocket pistol, I'm not going to complain one bit about a long trigger. Probably better that way. One of the little pocket 9's which has not yet been mentioned here is the Rorhbaugh R9. No polymer here, G10 grip panels. If I could swallow dropping nearly a GRAND on a pocket pistol, I'd buy one. Sweet pieces though!
 
I got to look at one of those R9's through the glass at a gun shop, thats as close as the fella would let me get. :p
 
Read reaviews bout the rohrbough? Dont drop a grand on a pistol that recomends changing the recoil springs every 200 rounds, And NOT to put too many rounds thru it and is also ammo picky oh and NO +p ever. Cant do links but read. Truthaboutguns.com review or review from the shot show. Just fyi.
 
Good thread.

I haven't experienced a summer in AZ... yet... but, I'm rather confident my 642 will carry ok when I can't conceal my G26 or G19, which are my current EDCs here in the desert. The 642 is fine in most of my pockets and if I'm wearing cargo shorts its very very easy and light. I also like the idea of pocket carrying a revolver over a semi auto for the obvious reasons of being able to shoot it from the pocket if need be without having to worry about a slide. Is your J frame really that hard to carry during the summer? Or is this an excuse to just get a new toy :)

I'm not sure if I'm ready to drop below .38special to the .380 - the difference in performance is pretty significant, but I cannot deny how UNBELIEVABLY SMALL the Lcp is...

I had an LC9, but sold it as it really wasnt too much smaller than my G26, but had a lot less capacity. Also wasnt a fan of the grip, which was odd as I do not mind the tiny LCP at all when I've held it.

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A lot of the normal choices have been covered already ... and those kahr's look good ... so here is a different option ...

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Take a S&W .38 Airweight able to handle +P and get it re-chambered to accept 9 x 28 with full moon clips ... so this will then take the 9 x 28 or .38 super or straight 9mm plus a few others ... ideally straight 9mm is all you need and it is then able to be compatible with any high capacity 9mm you want to carry should you also want to use it as a back up gun or a pocket gun when walking ( albeit not so much in the summer ) with your hands in the pockets of a jacket where it is ready to go should you ever be short on distance and time ...

I like revolvers like this because, as mentioned, they go "bang" whilst still inside your pocket or a bag and can do so without a jam ... get a cheap ultra thin recycled plastic bag and put it over the gun and push it in by the trigger so you can still hold it and squeeze the trigger ... no "lint" will get in and mess with the action and no gun oil will get on the jacket pocket ... it is a good way to keep things "obscure" and "sterile" ...

I have used the cheap plastic bag method ( usually a coloured one to hide the gun ) when working abroad in some places where the possibility of someone seeing the gun in your pocket would have been an issue ... and it is handy if transfering the gun from your pocket to the door pocket of a car when driving in a "car jack" area ...

Pick the right type of bag and it looks like your just carrying a sandwich or a burritto etc ...

Another one not mentioned is the Boberg xr9 ... but it is a bit pricey compared to the others ... and I think I would prefer a Kahr for the money difference ...

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I agree with Trailwolf though that for their size and capacity .... and particularly if you needed something with a bit of power ... I like the mini glock G29 ...

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I haven't carried concealed in a couple years...but, I will be again...and I used to carry daily for many years. Personally, I learned for myself that the biggest problem with concealment was the holster itself. I learned that I prefer for the piece to be pressed right up into my flesh on my side...it disappears and I can carry a larger piece. If I was worried about it falling, I used a lanyard, but I found that I didn't need it just a good belt either in or outside the pants for retention. After many many carry guns, I finally went with the Glock 32...perfect conceal gun IMO...the subcompact glocks are awkward IMO...but the compacts are perfect. When I didn't want to carry, I carried the LCP (my better than nothing gun). When I could where a jacket and a holster my sweet baby is the Wilson Professional bobtail.

Good luck, and let us know what you decide.
 
Trailwolf caught me... it might be more of an excuse to get a new toy but i still plan to carry it so its not all about just getting something new:D
 
I have a S&W 340 M&P that I've carried in my right front pocket for a couple of years. I recently bought a Ruger LC9 with the plan to carry it the same way. As long as I'm wearing 5.11 pants, it's not a problem, but none of my jeans pockets are deep enough and wide enough to easily draw my LC9.
 
Depending on the clothing, I carry my G32 or my little 10mm hand cannon (G29). If you are a bigger guy like myself and can conceal the thicker profile of a Glock, do so. If they feel and shoot good for you that is. You simply can't beat the capacity. 10 rounds of 10mm and 13 of .357 Sig is more firepower than you will find anywhere else.
 
The last three years I"ve been carrying a Micro Desert Eagle, made by Magnum Research Inc.. The magazine holds six and one in the chamber for seven total. There is no external safety nor external hammer. All steel construction.
 
I'm a big fan of pocket carry. I'm currently carrying a LCR in .38. I've been lusting over the PM45 for a while. The PM9 is great, CM9 is a better deal, IMHO. I've handled and dry fired a Kimber Solo. It's by far the nicest pocket 9 on the market right now, but I'm cheap and waiting for the new to wear off and prices and availability to stabilize, before I can even consider it. I liked the Diamond Back DB9 until I realized that it you can't shoot +P. Keep wanting to try a PF9 as well, but can't get past the cheap feel of it. Not a fan of the .380, I'd rather go with a 9mm or .38. I have on more than one occasion pocket carried my 21oz .44 Special Charter Arms Bulldog:)

GregB
 
I'd always heard "everything's bigger in Texas". Guess this just proves it:)

GregB
BaconBeavers
 
ended up getting the ruger LC9. its an awesome little gun. im really happy with it.
 
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