Sunday! Sunday! Sunday! a Busse Beat Down of Extrordinary Magnitude

Hogwash said:
You can send your girlfriend.

I have got that pair of Hog Tags I want her to pose with.

She can bring some of your knives too.
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Oh NO YOU DIDN'T!!!! If I were gimmejr I would ....... ok. nevermind :D
 
Sounds like a blast! Wish I could be there

Have a great time and take some pics for us
 
I have about 50 knives all packed up to bring and do show and tell.
Lots of cool busse and one of a kind stuff.

I wish there were a few more folks coming but I am really looking forward to meetting BAN and HOGWASH.
 
Justabuyer said:
I have about 50 knives all packed up to bring and do show and tell.
Lots of cool busse and one of a kind stuff.

I wish there were a few more folks coming but I am really looking forward to meetting BAN and HOGWASH.
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Holy smokes !!!! :eek::eek: That is a heavy payload of INFI you got there! I better go try and dig up some more stuff for tomorrow.

Ban
 
More later hopefully much more but I wanted to say that Ban is generous host and fine human being. Hogwash is a great guy and a true knife nut.


Man we banged some sweet steel today. No punches pulled and no excuses made. One expensive knife just about destroyed and some REAL lessons learned about handles , edge geometry and blade weight.

In each persons hand the out come was different...

More later after Ban Comments and posts.

Jim
 
Like to have been there isn't not that far from stockton just little over hour drive, maybe next year!
 
I hope you get some pics up tonight...thought about it and came to PC just to check.

I'm sure it's a great time! I'll check back later
 
OK I just got through doing some blade clean up and here is the report:P

Busse FFBM THINNED AND FULLY CONVEXED to the Saber grind line by BRK&T. I think BAN will come and confirm but the general consensus is this knife was pretty easily the King chopper today. It would just BLAST through hard seasoned lumber. I chopped with it twice I know Ban did at least three sessions with it and Hogwash did at least one. There was what looked like the slightest tiny roll to the edge. But I ran a steel over it and got out the 320 grit wet dry and I was all set to set the edge just a tiny bit thicker. I made two passes on each side and what I thought were rolls were now gone totally? It was a trip. But I know what I saw and there were tiny roll spots. So I went a head and rest the very edge just a tiny bit deeper.Scotch brighted the whole blade then polished the edge out with 2000 grit wet. No evidence what so ever it got BEAT HARD.

Next We whacked a FBMLE almost the same weight and edge thickness as the FFBM convex. I don't think any of us thought it worked as well. I noticed would bind some in the wood and it just did not sink as deep. When I did clean up time it was a snap. Quick steel on the edge, a few passes of 320, 600, 1200 and the edge was fine.

ZTBM A little disappointing it did OK though. I think its just comparing it to the above knives makes it seem kind of like a weak sister. We only used it once so it cleaned up with just a few passes on the 2000 grit.

Next was a sleeper knife. OILMAN sold me Swamp rat Ratwieler at a good price because he could not get a good edge on it. I guess he sent it off to Swamp Rat and they did a very half-assed job putting a edge on it. But it was a edge. So before todays party I did a fare amount of work on it. I set the edge thinner, restored the tip and added a swedge. I had polished the edge all the way up to 2000 grit with a slight convex.
Here is the thing, it chopped pretty damn good and took no edge damage at all. Seriously none...zip Seemed to hold better than INFI. No kidding. This is a pretty darn good mid sized knife.

Next up was a Bill Buxton 10 inch camp knife he made me a year or so ago. Forged 51200. This knife has a profile that is more like a kitchen knife than a Chopper. I used it but I am in poor shape and could not generate any where near the power BAN could. Still this knife for me out cut every thing. But the blade began to fail. It was getting waves in the edge. I took it home and with some vigorous steeling I got the edge mostly straight again. Then I reset the edge and took it to burr 4 times on each side with 320 grit. This for the most part cleaned up the damage. But you can still see a few spots. This blade will never be the same. Am I upset about it yeah.. Did I learn something from it? Yeah I did.

The surprise winner and based on price point I think the Busse to buy is the CGFBM. Mine sported a thinned convex edge with very high polish. Standard scales and it chopped... real well. REALLY solid cutter. In fact it was second only to the re-worked FFBM. This is a very under rated knife.

So here is what I learned. Weight helps and so does sharpness. But geometry cuts!! There is a trade off and I bet with experience it becomes pretty predictable.

Rough handles do make knives feel more secure and less likely to rotate in your hand but this is at the EXPENSE of your hand. OOCH.

Smooth handles rotate...BAD

Properly designed handles Smoothed but designed to work with the hand are the way to go. The Buxton was the best for me.

BAN took some pictures of the knife pile...LOL and there is video of the chopping but it may not make up here..that is up to BAN.

I have to tell ya BAN and Howash have some great Knives and Ban does some world class Mods.

I sure enjoyed myself today.
 
Great report! Can't wait for the pics and vids, and reports from the other guys, especially Ban's FABM. Shame about your custom. I have a Crowell Camp/Competition knife, with a thin zero edge. I would be loathe to beat on it in the same way I would do with a Mistress. otoh, as a Competition knife it should stand up to at least chopping 2x6s or whatever it is they do at those events. I was thinking of contacting Jim Crowell, and asking him what level of use/abuse it should take.

I wish you hadn't let out the secret about the RW, now the prices will go even higher. :rolleyes:
 
Pics will be up in a few minutes. I had to go out to the local electronics store to pic up a Firewire cable for my video camera. I am currently trying to edit some of the clips. So bear with me folks.

Now how the hell do I put the vids up? I need some help here guys. Tyrkon???? Anyone????
 
Here are the few pics that were taken. All I had were the groups shots of the knives. I didn't get to do any closeup pics because there were just too many knives. We also left out a few from the pics.

I will give a full report of my thoughts on todays chopfest as soon as I am done editing those vids. There are quite a few knives that were captured on video today.

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Ban said:
Pics will be up in a few minutes. I had to go out to the local electronics store to pic up a Firewire cable for my video camera. I am currently trying to edit some of the clips. So bear with me folks.

Now how the hell do I put the vids up? I need some help here guys. Tyrkon???? Anyone????
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Photobucket can handle vidclips now, even with a free account. I've yet to try it, but saw the option recently.
 
GREAT STUFF!! and We beat most of those knives.... LOL!!

Just a note.. All I talked about in my little review were the knives I owned.
Compared against each other. Taken as a inclusive group the rankings would change. Ban's anorexicFBM for instance... That is a serious camp and carry knife... and it holds up to CRAZY chopping.

But each of them will share their own thoughts I am sure..
 
First one up is Justabuyer with a Full Convexed FFBM!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0vDCCHgBFc

Hogwash with Full Convexed FFBM!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiYdd7IoF0A

Ban with Full Convexed FFBM!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-IL6TmLZvk

FABM!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4yNit5_5tE

Satin EU17 Magnum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX5jx2xkuMk

Custom 52100 Camp knife with Thin convexed edge!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMRIfQEole0

Hogwash splitting 2X6 with Custom AK47!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyrJUlb0pyk

Scrapyard DogFather!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqVIqBiUkzY

FBMLE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxIPh_l8EpU

Convexed CGFBM!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRv4nBhQMvo

Zero Tolerance Battle Mistress (ZTBM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njoY8GzG1vU

Basic 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZMNaGxiKks

SwampRat Ratweiler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww5uu7cGQJA

Anorexic BIBB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnsr7MAH3yQ

Zero Tolerance Natural Outlaw (ZTNO)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0zk_hCPvBE

3V Camp Knife
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jYggzWsh78
 
Jaxx said:
Photobucket can handle vidclips now, even with a free account. I've yet to try it, but saw the option recently.
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I would recommend youtube over photobucket. the PB video uploads absolutely destroy the quality of the video.


edit: looks like you got that taken care of :)
 
Oh the humanity, what did those 2x4s ever do to you guys? Looks like Hogwash really had something against his 2x4.
Looks like you guys had fun to bad I had to work today, hopefully next time.
 
OUTFREAKINGSTANDING!!!:thumbup:​

Well while I was busy do chores around the house this was going on just a few minutes from me!:mad:

Oh well...maybe next time. Glad you guys had fun! Looks like everyone's right arm will be very sore tomorrow! ;)
 
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