Survival and age.

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I had to learn the hard way a few times, that things change as you age.

With the passing of years, one will see the accumulation of old injuries acting up, arthritis, as well as other medical issues that will in time limit what you do. Hand strength will decrease due to arthritic issues or nerve damage from life's trials. You will have to learn different ways of doing things.

Of course this will have a direct effect on your outdoor skills. If one does not want to end up sitting on the porch, you have to develope a whole new way of dealing with the outdoors in general, and the subject of survival in particular.

As a senior citizen, I love to get out in the woods, ans I'm blessed with a better half that shares my passion. We have explored products that let us do more, while carrying less weight. I doubt either of our daypacks are more than 5 pounds, yet if we had to, we could ride out a few days with what we have with us.

What we've learned;

1. Plastic is your best friend. One of those 10 foot square disposable plastic sheet drop cloths are all of a couple bucks at Lowes, but makes a way better shelter than you can make with an ax, in just a few moments. Water proof, wind proof, and about as big as a paper back novel. They come in 10X10, 12 X 12, 9 X 10. Heck, have the 'ol lady carry one in her pack and between the two of you you'll have a plastic palace to ride out a storm.

2. Cotton jute twine. Cheap, holds knots great under wind buffeting, biodegradable, and makes passable tinder.

3. Rubber maid containers. Comes in many small sizes, waterproof, pretty crush proof, can see thru, cheap.

4. Hiking staff. Makes a great third leg, can probe under logs for dry tinder without risking hands to "varmits", wards off dogs that people say are friendly but is growling and has hair on back up, is already in hand if you meet somebody on the trail that may be another Gary Hilton.

5. Don't chop. By the time you get to the mid 60's and have a rotator cuff held together with screw and a couple of pins, arthritis in youhands from cranking on a mill, and the better half has some disk problems, rumitid arthtitis in her hands, and between the two of you, you learn other ways. Saws are good. Not as macho as heaqving an ax, but a medium Sven saw breaks down and with a extra blade still wiegths less than a hatchet. Still not as easy as using a forked tree to break up the dry stuff.

6. If theres a place to splurge, its on clothing. Your clothes are your first line of defense in the cold. A Filson double cape cruiser coat looks expensive on paper, but after one winter you'll think you got a bargin. Stay away from bargin clothing and cheap boots.

7. Never carry anything you don't absolutly need. Weight is your motral enemy.

Just keep in mind, that now may be the best time to start developing outdoor techniques that you can use if you get injured, disabled, or just get old and can't do what you did 20 years ago. That last bit gets us all eventually.

Things change.
 
Good thoughts. I have been rethinking and evaluating my gear, and have made a shift from bigger to smaller knives. We have gone over our gear, our "stuff" and cut out the extras. I am going to do another such "purge" closer to summer next year, by practicing around the house before heading out to the woods. This way, they can learn young, what I am learning older. I am teaching them to conserve energy, respect nature, and most importanly, to have FUN!
 
Quite right, too.

An additional observation ..... older usually means more attractive to 2 legged vermin. That's why I always carry a firearm in the woods. A good walking stick is great for keeping off the dogs but allows a badguy to get too close for comfort.
 
Good post jackknife. I'm 42 and beginning to see the wisdom in your words. The injuries and hard use do add up, don't they?
 
:mad:I found out this year that my arthritic hands have got to the point that I could'nt hardly skin the two deer I took. I beat my hands up pretty bad when I was young and now I'm paying for it. I had to end up using a pair of Vise-grips to grab the skin and pull. I guess it goes to the processor skin on next year--KV
 
I agree with every point you made. Age certainly can bring wisdom that can compensate for a lot.
 
My knees and back hurt so bad it got to the point where I didn't do anything for over a year. My sister and wife kept telling me to go see a doctor. Well, I never did, as I haven't been to the doctor in over 25 years. They finally got me to go see my sisters doc and he gave me a pill to take.

It's called MELOXICAM 15 MG for my arthritis which was all it was. He said give it 2-4 weeks to start working. I can honstly say this has made me feel like I am 20 years old again. I have ZERO pain. I can do ANYHTHING I want to. Sleeping on the cold ground does not hurt like it did a few years ago.

It is cheap to. It was either $3 or $5 for a month supply, and he gave me a three month supply to get started. So for a max of $15, it is worth it. Go talk to your doc and see what he says.

It is not a pain killer at all. I mean I didn't feel anything for a couple weeks, but I stayed on the daily pill. Then oneday the bride says you look like you feel better. I was rolling on the floor playing with the dog. I stopped and said, I never thought about, but man I don't hurt at all anymore. Then I started thinking how I could climb right out of bed, bend over to pick something off the floor, lift heavy items, basically everything I used to do and not think about.
 
Agreed on many points. I have Psoriatic Arthritis, nerve damage and back injuries (work related) galore at only 42 years old. That and some major health issues to boot have given me a continually rotating point of view on skills and gear. The point of good clothing is pretty much #1 in my book of gear lessons.
Anyhow, good topic. Thanks for bringing it.:thumbup:
 
All great points and thank you for bringing them up.

I am 46 and still do everything I always have, but of course it feels a bit different in the morning.

Let us not forget, Richard Proenneke was 51 years old when he STARTED to build his cabin in twin lakes Alaska and he lived there another 31 years.

You might have to change methods a bit, you might not be as comfortable as you used to be, but there is no reason you can't get out there.
 
All great points and thank you for bringing them up.

I am 46 and still do everything I always have, but of course it feels a bit different in the morning.

Let us not forget, Richard Proenneke was 51 years old when he STARTED to build his cabin in twin lakes Alaska and he lived there another 31 years.

You might have to change methods a bit, you might not be as comfortable as you used to be, but there is no reason you can't get out there.


That's a good point about Proenneke. I think a lot of the problems with people is they live on coffee, Coke, Pepsi, and Mountain Dew, and don't drink enough water. Dick drank water and kept his joints lubed up so he maybe didn't have as many aches and pains as people living at fast food places. Most people are walking around dehydrated. I am no doc, but the body is going to take fluid to digest food from somewhere, so I am sure your joints are on the list of places to get water from.
 
I have always been the type who could go all day in the hot sun without eating. Now I can not tolerate that. I have to take nourishment , even on short hikes in case that shaky sweaty feeling appears. My back , ankles, arches , knees have seen their better days. I still get out a lot, just walk slower.
 
take it slow, use tools, stop and figure out an easier way to do everything. And, I'm learning this already, let the young kids go do stuff they think is fun that you don't have to do anymore!
 
One fast way to know if you drink enough or not. When you go to pee, If its clear then your body has enough fluids. If your pee is very dark yellow then you need to drink more. Its also normal after a long hard hike to have yellowish pee, as we sweat alot. Some foods and what you did during the day would change the amount of waste your body needs to get rid of. So its not 100% best indicator but very close to it. Most of the time people confuse thirst with hunger.. So they eat more instead of drinking.

Sasha

Sasha
 
You are right jackknife-Old is painful but for me exercise is the key to being able to go. I have a shoulder that has little or no cartilage in the ball joint. Severe pain in other parts of the body from a misspent youth. I forced my self to light and than to moderate exercise and now find little pain in the shoulder. A full body work out 3 times a week has worked wonders. A 10 mile hike with a 15 pound pack is great. Before the exercise program a one mile walk was difficult. I plan to hike in the Grand Canyon in May. Even if it is painful you can exercise-see your Doctor.
 
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