Survival equipment ponderings

Runningboar, no, I didn't say that right. I was referring to others who said they could kill a deer or a polar bear with a .22 LR or something similar...and I may have misunderstood what they were trying to say...unless it was an extreme survival situation, I personally wouldn't try to use anything less than a maximum effective round for a quick clean kill.
 
secretagentmann007 said:
i recently bought a savage arms .17 hmr. deadly little thing. i've been trying to find a deer to kill with it but havent seen one this year. i've got a leepers 6-24x50 long range scope on it. from what i've read this bullet will travel up to 2700 fps which is really close to a much larger caliber rifle bullet. very accurate, i enjoy it. only thing i dont like is it didnt come with iron sights. at close range my scope is way too powerful. anyone know about any other stocks i can put on this? i've checked with the manufacturer and they say they havent put anything else out, i know 22 mag magazines will work with this gun, maybe 22 mag stocks will work too?
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The bullets for this cartridge are extremely frangible. They will do a number (think red mist) to a squirrel sized animal, but are likely to create a nasty, but superficial wound on deer sized game.
 
I have killed maybe 200 hogs and 30 head of cattle with a .22, granted that was at near contact ranges, but with a steady hand, they are DRT if you do your job.

When I take deer off my dads orchard, ( if you can call 22 trees an orchard, the state of wisc does, but its a stretch) a .22 and a bright flash light mean a dead deer. longest shot maybe 30 yard, but usually less. Deer drop fast when you head shoot them. When i was a kid, we killed a lot of beaver with .22 head shots if the traps did not kill them. i had two 9 shot .22 pistols, break top old H&R's, and a mossberg USGI .22 that killed a couple of tons of meat and skins.
 
A .17 for DEER? that's just crazy. In WI there are laws against using mini or micro calibers on deer, etc., and there's a damn good reason for that. There are also laws against shining deer at night, I'm SURE that's not what Guntotin' fool meant in his post. :eek:

From the WI DNR site, 2006 guidelines...
Rifles:
• It is illegal to hunt deer with any air rifle, rimfire rifle, or any center-fire rifle less
than .22 caliber. (That means YOU GTF! :) )
• Any .22 caliber or larger center-fire rifle is legal to use to hunt deer in areas open
to hunting deer with rifles.
Handguns:
• To be legal for deer, handguns must use center-fire cartridges of .22 caliber or
larger and have a 5 1/2 inch minimum barrel, measured from the firing pin to the
muzzle with the action closed.

.17HMR was designed to for a flat trajectory over long distances, not to take down an animal 100# or more. You're trying to drink whiskey from a bottle of wine, secretagentmann007. Shooting anything larger than a bunny with that thing is probably illegal, certainly dumb and irresponsible. The sort of behavior PETA and anti-gunners just LOVE to hear about :mad:

Just my $.02 of course, but I think .30 cal is needed for deer or larger. (That would include .270, basically necked-down 30/06.) I don't know anyone in central WI who hunts with smaller calibers, except for youths and "recoil-sensitive" folks who like a .243. On the other hand, not too many people use .300 Ultra Mags either... most folks like some venison left after they kill the deer , lol.
 
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