Survival knife

I'll second the Busse Battle Mistress. You can beat it all day long, and it still maintains a sharp edge. They are super tough. The balance and the grip ergonomics are exceptional and can't be beat. To top it off, you have a lifetime guarantee. It's well worth the $350.
 
Also, it looks like Mr. Rinaldi does not use the ergo grip like the new Busses. It is a very, very comfortable grip.
 
Originally posted by King Grinch
No offense to Busse fans....

Why spend $350 for a Busse when you could get one of these

http://www.pe.net/~thrblade/
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Well, in addition to what Buzz says (which IMO is the best reason) I went to your website and found the equivalent of a Busse BM would cost me $395...for a knife that could be chopped into kindling with a Battle Mistress :D
 
Originally posted by King Grinch
No offense to Busse fans....

Why spend $350 for a Busse when you could get one of these

http://www.pe.net/~thrblade/
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To add to what others have said:

The Busse Warranty


Since you already have a hatchet, I would suggest a Busse Natural Outlaw or Satin Jack (you can check them out at www.BusseCombat.com ). They should fill the void nicely between the hatchet and the folder :D

Here are some pics:

The Natural Outlaw

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The Satin Jack

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I'm going to agree with Andrew on this one and say either the Busse Natural Outlaw or the Satin Jack. If you have specific questions regarding those feel free to come over to the Busse forum and we'll help you the best we can. :D:D
 
As of now i only own two knives that I use as survival gear when on hiking trips....a Busse Basic 9 and Battle Mistress-E. Both are great knives, however I rarely use my 9 anymore in favor of the Mistress. It's not so much that I prefer the blade more, rather the feel and overall balance. She's a great knife and has served me well.
 
I'd get a Busse but i am a poor college student, i plan on getting a Satin Jack some time in the future but right now, My Cold Steel SRK really gets the job done. I bought it for 40 bucks, it chops and cuts well, easy to sharpen and actually can hold an edge, i havent had any rust problems, and the epoxy coat looks dirty but it hasnt worn off. I am not a huge fan of the krayton handle though.

Also check out the Becker Knife and Tool like from Camillus i would like to get the Combat/Utility 7. (they're actually the same manufacturer camillus makes the Cold steel Carbon V knives)
 
You can't go wrong with the Busse Natural Outlaw or the Satin Jack.
Which you can get either one for under $257.;) Or maybe even less if you check the sale forums.:D
 
Not trying to throw salt in anyones game here but I doubt you will be chopping up an A2 or CPM3V Armageddon for kindling anytime soon.. As far as ergo grips go, its a very subjective topic... Some people like different things.. The integral subhilt design with textured G-10 has worked VERY well for many people. I aint trying to start a pissing contest with Busse fans here, but there is something to be said for a Custom maker who produces a quality product, with emphasis on fit and finish, with quality materials and the best heat/cryo treatment available... If you break it you get it fixed by me period... Havent had one break yet.... But anyone who wants to break a knife CAN do it! No matter what steel yer talking about...
I have great respect for Busse knives, they have a great reputation, and I wont tell you different...

Take Care
Trace Rinaldi
www.thrblades.com
 
Mr. Rinaldi is 100% on the mark, ANY knife by ANY maker/manufacturer can be broken if that is the user's objective. What man makes....man can break....it's only steel :)

Mr. Rinaldi, your knives are known very well to be some of the highest quality products without question and I look forward to owning some of your work.
 
Just for the record

I am NOT anti-Busse. They make great quality knives. I do have a problem with PRODUCTION knives priced as high as CUSTOM knives. And no I wasn't trying to start something between Trace and Jerry. I could have used Rob Simonich etc....
 
I think the best thing Three-Grams can do is buy something that he thinks fits his needs now. If it doesn't, sell it and move to something else (be sure your testing ground is not a survival situation, unless you buy a...knife that will not fail you..).

I have my preferences based on exactly this. Some people prefer Brand A, and some prefer Brand B.

I've found that with a Busse Steel Heart, you can replace both your ax and e-tool. It will fit both needs.

I also recommend that you find a copy of American Survival Guide (July '96). You will see that the Steel Heart brushed off the following requirements with ease:

- Field dress big and small game
- Quarter and butcher big and small game
- Gut and fillet fish
- Cut freehanging large-diameter hemp rope in a single slice
- Chop and carve hardwood
- Replace a hatchet
- Dig with
- Split large pieces of firewood by hammering it with another piece of wood
- Hold an edge sharp enough to shave with
- Large enough for combat use
- Lifetime guarantee.

All of this is also precluded by the amount you are able to spend on a knife that you may have to stake your a$$ on. If you find that a $300 or $400 knife is best, sell off some other low-use items to finance it.

There is an old saying something like "Buy the best, and you only cry once".

Mike
 
Originally posted by Trace Rinaldi
I aint trying to start a pissing contest with Busse fans here, but there is something to be said for a Custom maker who produces a quality product, with emphasis on fit and finish, with quality materials and the best heat/cryo treatment available... If you break it you get it fixed by me period... Havent had one break yet.... But anyone who wants to break a knife CAN do it! No matter what steel yer talking about...
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I totally agree Mr Rinaldi. I wasn't trying to put down your blades at all, in fact I am quite a fan of your designs. I just meant to impart my preference, atleast for this purpose.

BTW, I'm glad more makers (like yourself) are starting to use 3V more extensively. It seems to be one of the best steels for hard use.
 
After reading your post and seeing that you have an axe, I would recommend the Satin Jack.

At $227.00 and only 3/16th inch thick it will fit the bill very nicely.
It is one of my favorites.
It is also made from INFI steel, holds an edge, easy to sharpen in the feild, takes major abuse and keep on going.
The handle is more of a "typical" style and is very comfortable under all types of different uses.
The micarta is almost indestructable as is the black coating.

Put those features along with a company that will back it 110% and you have one of the best knifes at a reasonable price that you can buy.

Now you know why they never last very long when they come up for sale on the boards.
 
Thanks for the extensive comments! I learned a lot here. Sergiusz Mitin, thanks for the a slightly alternative perspective. I am really looking for about 6" or shorter blade.

Now that I think about it, I have seen a Busse knife before. It was one of the longer models (12" blade?) and man, that thing is HUGE. Nice, but I want something less sophisticated.

I have been offered Firestrike FS46 as a part of a trade and it seems to satisfy my criteria pretty well.
 
Why is the Chris Reeve one piece not listed here at all? I was (am) leaning very hard toward one of them. I thought they would be very good for this sort of use. Am I wrong? In fact I'm looking for a decent used one at this time in case anyone has one.:)
 
Yep. I went through the long ordeal..... and came out a VERY happy camper. The 3/16" Busse LE Satin Jack is a functional no-compromise solution to the bulletproof camp knife dilemma.

As good as my Marbles knives are, I really wanted full tang construction for extreme durability. Other than the full tang, a Marbles would have been perfect. They use great steel, and have a great edge.

I also tried a Bob Dozier last year. The knife is gorgeous and a perfect skinner. I wouldn’t give it up for the world. Unfortunately, the hollow grind is not so good on wood. I really prefer a flat or full convex grind for versatility in the outdoors.

So it all came down to just a few choices. Cold Steel, Camillus, TOPS and Busse all had knives that looked really good. But after buying many knives in my search, I really wanted to get it right this time, no matter what the cost. So I went with Busse. I could have gotten 90% of the Busse goodness from one of the other excellent manufacturers, but I wanted the full measure!!! I’m glad I spent the extra money.
 
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