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Survival Lilly knife

Discussion in 'Outdoor Gear, Survival Equipment & More' started by Jhansenak47, Oct 19, 2018.

  1. Jhansenak47

    Jhansenak47 Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 27, 2005
    I just saw Survival Lilly's new knife and must say that I am not impressed.

    Steel: AUS8
    Blade Length: 13,5 cm / 5.12 inches
    Blade Thickness: 4,8 mm
    Handle Length: 11,5 cm / 4.33 inches
    Weight (including sheath): 389 gramms / 13.72 ounces
    Rockwell Hardness: 57 Rc +/-1

    The Taiwanese workmanship looks pretty good. My lack of enthusiasm comes from her design emphasis and the design itself, which seems to fall along the sharpened prybar genre. Apparently destructive knife testing is important to her.
    The quotes are from her product description, which I am not linking because I don't think she is a dealer.

    I don't know about you, but I found this knife to be a bit much. Given her past history of making destructive testing videos of knives in "survival situations" this knife description was a rehash of silliness. Maybe it is just me, but I don't see the point in something like this. Indestructible does not correlate well to functional when it comes to knives, unless you plan on approaching survival like a bull in a china shop. What are your thoughts on this "survival knife".
     
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  2. mete

    mete Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 10, 2003
    :DProving once again that the genes of real Vikings have been completely lost. I have a wonderful AUS8 hunting knife .It's excellent in every way. BUT , it's an early one made with real AUS8 not the later Chinese copy .
    She mentions a knife that fits her needs but is too expensive !! So she'll take a substitute ! :rolleyes: Well miss the best is never cheap. Watch the video for laughs , don't take it seriously
     
  3. mr2blue

    mr2blue Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 27, 2008
    That was amusing.
     
  4. MolokaiRider

    MolokaiRider Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 13, 2017
    I think it looks decent. I’m not a huge fan of AUS8 but it’s an ok stainless.

    The design definitely leans more towards batoning and chopping more than finesse.

    It will be interesting to see what retail this is marketed.
     
  5. kevinc

    kevinc

    41
    Nov 3, 2007
    Not just amusing..... I find it is also quite ironic. The knife appears to be a full tang "homage" of a Fallkniven
    S1 with micarta scales and a lesser/cheaper/inferior steel. IIRC the OP bagged the S1 quite extensively......... Which leads me to the point of my post. Fallkniven - If you're listening please start making the blade blanks available again.
     
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  6. gadgetgeek

    gadgetgeek

    May 19, 2007
    I had to laugh when I saw a comment on another thread about knives getting thinner, nope! Still not happening. But such is the way of the marketing world, as long as the marketing all says you need a sharp prybar, then that is what those who are learning will learn to use, therefore they will teach the next gen that sharpened prypars are good, but sharpened bricks are better.
     
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  7. Insipid Moniker

    Insipid Moniker Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 28, 2011
    Not my thing, but it seems silly to go after this particular knife when most of the Fallkniven catalogue, the Cold Steel SRK, Becker BK-10, BK-7, BK-9 and many, many others use very similar or the same stock and have seen a whole lot of use in many and varied situations for a whole lot of years.

    Apart from the stock thickness, the design seems pretty solid overall. Not trying to reinvent the wheel, but has a few nice features not found on some competitors knives (I would rather have the micarta scales than those on the S1 or SRK, for example).
     
  8. bikerector

    bikerector Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 16, 2016
    This looked a lot like an OKC blackbird until you get to the tip and then blade thickness. I guess it's cool she designed a knife and it works for her. Seems really heavy for a 5" knife.
     
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  9. Brommeland

    Brommeland

    667
    Jul 28, 2003
    After her S1 video, I lost all interest (and respect) for her work.
     
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  10. Mannlicher

    Mannlicher

    Nov 19, 2008
    never heard of her, but after watching, I'm not impressed. AUS8 is ok, but nothing special. There are better choices for a knife you may well bet your life on.
     
  11. Jhansenak47

    Jhansenak47 Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 27, 2005
    She is a bushcrafting YouTube star. I think she got YouTube famous because she is a decent looking girl with a Lili Von Shtupp accent doing bushcraft, so the guys have a crush on her and the girls like having a female hero. She is not particularly amazing at bushcraft. I think your assessment of the knife as "ok" and "nothing special" is pretty much how I feel about the knife too.
     
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  12. Angus McGunnigle

    Angus McGunnigle

    796
    Jan 1, 2013
    Look s like a good general purpose knife to me.
    As far as her channel......IMO.....it is interesting and well done.
     
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  13. cardo

    cardo Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    291
    Dec 7, 2012
    Lilly's Limpet pry bar.
     
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  14. baldtaco-II

    baldtaco-II

    Feb 28, 2006
    It could be better, it could be worse. At least it isn't one of those hopeful monster things (think Tracket, HEST …), and looks like it evolved from some existing design elements that work, not just a giant leap from the fevered imagination of some child. [ Insipid Moniker named a few classics]


    That said, she betrays herself with some of the same marketing bollox that came bundled with the giants whose shoulders the knife stands upon when they spewed it. Of particular note is the exposed pommel to bang in nails. It would amuse me greatly to watch her do that. Those of you that might remember the old SOG Government knife will recall that it had an especially big pommel for driving in tent pegs. The pommel didn't really give much away in surface area to the average claw hammer. Still, you only had to miss once and drive you hand down hard onto the end of a twig stuck in the ground to be very shy of ever doing that again. The result being that you subsequently stuck so tentatively you might as well have just put the flat of the blade atop the peg and hit that with a stick. Now consider the surface area of the striking bit of her pommel, a nail head, and how you'd be holding it, Actually consider all the angles. If she actually did this stuff she'd know this. She'd know she'd be better off calling that feature a peanut pummeler. Cut and paste marketing pony ensued she missed it. Then again, perhaps I'm harsh. May be carrying in all that set dressing and Hiawatha's big-top canvas gazebo in a 400L bergan drains her and makes her forget.

    If she dumped all the her “survival” framing and just called it what it is, “adventure games in the woods”, I'd be able to generate a certain amount of respect and good will. The knife could take its rightful place alongside many other pretty decent sports / recreation / adventure knives from Asia. I'd say that for my own taste I'd probably pick something from Steel Will out of all those, and there it would end.

    As it stands with all of her survival crap and her declaration that she has broken the tips off loads of knives I can't help but laugh a bit. I find it rather like a lecturn-fuhrer of a woman pontificating on “which survival long gun” whilst repeatedly picking hot brass out of her bra. The survival mindset of “I don't care. Does it work, is it clean, do I have enough ammunition is all I care about” aint for you honey. Stick to plinking and playing and you'll be fine. Same with her knives.
     
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  15. thebrain

    thebrain

    Dec 12, 2007
    I recently watched her video on the S1. Part way through when she starts talking about the commonly known problem with VG10 being brittle and prone to chipping.... Also her complaint about scrubbing the kraton handle on a rock scruffed the rubber. What does she think will happen with micarta when scraped on rocks. Silly YouTuber "Woods messing with Lilly" would be more appropriate and respectable.
     
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  16. Grease

    Grease

    May 10, 2012
    Having scrubbed both on rocks, I can tell you the micarta will look great after months of rock-scrubbing and the kraton will be all scuffed up after one day. Heck, a too-tight kydex sheath will tear up a kraton handle.

    Micarta is a very tough, durable material. You can make log splitting wedges out of it. Kraton is rubber.
     
  17. thebrain

    thebrain

    Dec 12, 2007
    Depending on the quality of the rubber and the quality of the micarta the results can be quite different. Besides that many people make splitting wedges out of wood, and tires seem to handle contact with rocks ok;). My comment was mostly about her lak of forethought in action. If you need to use your only tool in an emergency maybe try not to render it uncomfortable and or useless, unless you know how long you will be "stranded".
     
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  18. oldmanron

    oldmanron

    177
    Jun 19, 2012
    That was my opinion too. I have four fixed blades ... a decades-old rubber-handled hollow-ground Buck Vanguard, a similarly-sized Camillus Bushcrafter with stock Micarta, a custom-sheathed Becker BK2 with the pricey BK Micarta upgrade, and a Gerber LMF 2 (a do-it-all-bargain at 50%-off years ago) permanently stashed down in the cubby between the driver's seat-base and the door.

    Ms Lilly's knife is just fine. Especially if you actually listened to her cautious (but perfect) "If you could have only one knife" situation/scenario ...

    I hope she sells thousands ... gotta love that entrepreneurial spirit ... cynics can go pound stand. :)
     
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  19. Corso

    Corso

    882
    Aug 16, 2007
    someone buy her a Mora
     
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  20. Brommeland

    Brommeland

    667
    Jul 28, 2003
    ROFLMAO! She already did a Garberg review in which she managed to break the tip. I'm thinking that she should team up with that fat guy in gym shorts and see if they can make a "Lilly-proof" knife......
     
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