Survival POLL

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DJCHRISRECTOR

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This poll has a scenario to it for a reason. Your top 3 might be different for many different reasons.


You are going on a 10 day backpacking trip. Because you have a bit of a addiction, you are bringing your 3 favorite knifes. (normal people bring one)


On day 2, one knife drops off a cliff(it's gone)

On day 5, you forgot one of the knives at the old camp 9miles away (backtracking would destroy your trip + your thinking "I'm pretty sure it's at the old camp")

(Survival) On Day 8, you get lost and 10days turns into 14

POLL


What are your 3 knives (names/models please)?

What is the Day 2 Knife?

What is the Day 5 Knife?

And What knife is going to save your life?
 
DJCHRISRECTOR said:
This poll has a scenario to it for a reason. Your top 3 might be different for many different reasons.


You are going on a 10 day backpacking trip. Because you have a bit of a addiction, you are bringing your 3 favorite knifes. (normal people bring one)


On day 2, one knife drops off a cliff(it's gone)

On day 5, you forgot one of the knives at the old camp 9miles away (backtracking would destroy your trip + your thinking "I'm pretty sure it's at the old camp")

(Survival) On Day 8, you get lost and 10days turns into 14

POLL


What are your 3 knives (names/models please)?

What is the Day 2 Knife?

What is the Day 5 Knife?

And What knife is going to save your life?
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so, Survive gso 4.7 3v , Trc K1 m390, Fallkniven nl4 , in that order
 
Um, I lose the first two and only one counts? Why spend weight on two lost knives?

1. Opinel
2. Opinel
3. Fallkniven A1

Although I'm currently interviewing a couple of Busses that may take the Fallkniven's spot.
 
Hi DJ,

I think (knife/knives choice) is going to be dependent upon WHERE & WHEN one is lost in the Woods. I happen to live in Maine. Now, I don't pretend to be any kind of "Mountain Man/Survivalist type" being more of an "Arm Chair survivalist" type/collector of sharp/pointy things. That being said, this much I do know......other than falling off that cliff along with your knife (or being eaten by a Bear) the quickest (most common) way one dies in the Wilderness due to Hypothermia! Even in Summer there are areas of Maine where it is possible to develop Hypothermia.

Therefore, if I could only have ONE cutting implement, it would have to be some sort of larger cutter/chopper to make a debris shelter as efficiently as possilbe. I would want something on the order of a Small Forest Axe, a large Chopper Knife or a Saw. It just so happens I am presently having one of my vintage "Lamb Splitter" modified for such use.


Check out this link from another thread here at BF. It's pretty cool and (for me) rather ironic. https://books.google.com/books?id=a...0CB0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=lamb splitter&f=false

http://ralph1396.com/NCHlambSCREWSreNICE1.JPG



Just my 2 cents. Good luck.


HARDBALL
 
Getting lost on day 8 for a week can be traced directly to not going back for your knife on day 5. From "Expedition Behavior: The Finer Points" By Howard Tomb

RULE #6 Do not ask if anybody's seen your stuff. Experienced adventures have systems for organizing their gear. They rarely leave it strewn around camp or lying back on the trail. One of the most damning things you can do is ask your teammates if they've seen the tent poles you thought you packed 20 miles ago. Even in the unlikely event you get home alive, you will not be invited on the next trip. Should you ever leave the tent poles 20 miles away, do not ask if anybody's seen them. Simply announce, with a good-natured chuckle, that you are about to set off in the dark on a 40-mile hike to retrieve them, and that you are sorry. It's unprofessional to lose your spoon or your toothbrush. If something like that happens, don't mention it to anyone.

Not the answer you're looking for, but you posted a gear/survival/risk management/expedition behavior question to a forum full of people who live and teach this. My knives are a Leatherman Charge and either an Esee Izula or larger carbon steel fixed blade and in that situation none of them will save my life. The fact that the local ranger who now knows that I'm 4 days passed my check in time and has dispatched a SAR team to find me, will. If you want to be Aron Ralston, keep your knife sharp. If you want to be safe and alive, keep your skills and wits sharp.
 
First of all, 9 miles back is a half day hike and I would go back 100% of the time for, "One of my three favorite knives" in this scenario - aka I was on a "Backpacking trip" and so I have all my gear (I'm not wandering around w/ no immediate water, warmth or food in sight).

Day 2, my Todd Wielinski N2 necker in W2 (ironically lost on Assateague Island) with tapered tang and carbon fiber scales is my cliffhanger since I actually lost it...in water to never be found again.

Day 5, I return to camp for my S!K GSO 4.7, retracing my steps and staring at ground the entire time. Remember, I'm not lost yet, and I'll just setup camp in that spot again. This knife would most likely be replaced by S!K GSO 4.5 Bushcraft in Delta 3V @ .115" thickness in the future.

Day 8 - I'm completely and utterly lost. For some bizarre reason I didn't bring local topo maps or a compass - what a tool. At this point I hopefully have my CPK Light Chopper from the one and only Nathan Carothers; now I can begin building my bomb proof shelter because mother nature is on the horizon, and she's extremely pissed off.

About a week later I run into a hog, and he uses his AK47 and WTF to chop the entire forest down as we stroll back to the mundane world. :D
 
Kind of a strange scenario. I guess I'll go with what actually lives in my pack at the moment, though they may not necessarily be my favorites.

Off the cliff- Victorinox Swisstool
Lost- Mora Companion
Last knife- Ontario RD7

Luckily your scenario doesn't have me losing my Silky saw or CS shovel, so I'm still in decent shape on tools.

Dangerously said:
Um, I lose the first two and only one counts? Why spend weight on two lost knives?

1. Opinel
2. Opinel
3. Fallkniven A1

Although I'm currently interviewing a couple of Busses that may take the Fallkniven's spot.
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I'm also trying out a couple of Busses to possibly replace my Ontario. I think my SARGE7 might be a winner, but time will tell. Which ones are you interviewing?
 
hexenjager said:
I'm also trying out a couple of Busses to possibly replace my Ontario. I think my SARGE7 might be a winner, but time will tell. Which ones are you interviewing?
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Like you, I carry a saw (Dustrude folding buck saw) so don't need a big chopper. Something that will baton is enough, so I got a competition finish Son Of Badger. The grip is marvelous, and the rather thick edge looks like it will split wood well. If it doesn't work out, I'm eyeing a Badger Attack 2 Ergo.

For smaller work, I just got a Mean Street Ergo in SR101 that I plan to belt carry with it. It has to beat the performance of an elmax Bark River to stay on the belt.

But I don't plan on leaving either behind or tossing them over cliffs.
 
Having brought my trusty, dusty Utica Sportsman along with a Ka-Bar USMC and the Camillus/Fisk OVB Bowie, I'm in good hands.

Things go awry along the trail. I try to cut some wild Musk Mallow as the trail skirts a cliff, and wouldn't you know it, the Utica Sportsman takes a fall a'la Wile E. Coyote.

That's okay, because I still have..... DANG IT!... I left the ol' Ka-Bar next to the fire pit at camp where I was cutting weenie sticks.

Aw well, I still got the Camillus/Fisk Bowie. It'll kill the B'ar, cut it up into steaks, split my firewood, stand up my shelter and be ready for church this Sunday.
 
Dangerously said:
Like you, I carry a saw (Dustrude folding buck saw) so don't need a big chopper. Something that will baton is enough, so I got a competition finish Son Of Badger. The grip is marvelous, and the rather thick edge looks like it will split wood well. If it doesn't work out, I'm eyeing a Badger Attack 2 Ergo.

For smaller work, I just got a Mean Street Ergo in SR101 that I plan to belt carry with it. It has to beat the performance of an elmax Bark River to stay on the belt.

But I don't plan on leaving either behind or tossing them over cliffs.
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I agree 100% on not forgetting or tossing my knives off of any cliffs. This scenario does kinda sound like I probably shouldn't have gone out camping in the first place. Or at the very least brought WAY less booze with me.

My theory on the "survival" knife is a bit different. I look at it more as just a backup to any or all of the more specialized tools, so I like to have some chopping capability (limited though it may be) and find the size/weight tradeoff to be worth it up to a point. Plus my dad's hunting/outdoors knife when I was growing up was a 7ish inch fixed blade, so that's what I learned to process game and fish and do other chores with from the start. It's what I'm comfortable with, but they certainly wouldn't be for everyone.

I've been eyeballing those bg mse's pretty hard myself. I may have to pick one up eventually. Let us know which knives win out in the end. :thumbup:
 
Knife #1 would be my Victorinox classic, but because of its sentimental value I will have dove off the cliff after it. Now knives # 2 and #3 don't matter, the worst part is that I'll be laying down there with a broken back and realize that it didn't even fall off the cliff but rather landed in my boot 😁

I would rather have this scenario happen then choose 2 of my favorite knives to be lost.
 
I'm not a wilderness survival commando who's going to build a new civilization in the mountains of Idaho in February.

My time in the woods is spent day hiking along fairly well-defined trails in the Adirondacks or maybe an occasional canoe camping weekend in the Thousand Lakes region. My main knife is a stout folder (this summer it'll be a Dozier Workhorse). It's always in my pocket and attached to my belt with a lanyard. This summer, I'll try a belt sheath.

I'll have a Mora and large SAK in my pack. The saw is useful. If I lose everything, I'll still have my knife and fire steel on me.
 
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