Survive starter 5.1

pjandyho said:
Just noticed a new video done by Chiral. Nice!

http://youtu.be/gYWafo6EoTM
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Yeah, posted a review during a lull in my shift last night: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...1-compared-with-Swamp-Rat-Ratmandu-and-ESEE-6

Here's the embedded video - nothing professional like you see with Gideons tactical, just some random use and abuse. I did record a shaving video, but it seemed redundant with the previous GSO-5.1 shaving video, and it honestly isn't that comfortable, Guy is finishing these to an ultra-fine polish :o ... I may still record a throwing video ;) I am impressed at how tough the knife is. I lost the shaving-edge amidst all the batonning, but the knife would still cut printer-paper after pushing through that section of gutter, no visible rolls or even glints - clearly I was too gentle! :D

[video=youtube;gYWafo6EoTM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYWafo6EoTM[/video]
 
Really liking the new finish on these. Never had an issue with corrosion on my 3.5 in stonewash, but it's nice to have a little added resistance.

Does anyone know if Kiah is still bending the Kydex on these?
 
trevitrace said:
Really liking the new finish on these. Never had an issue with corrosion on my 3.5 in stonewash, but it's nice to have a little added resistance.

Does anyone know if Kiah is still bending the Kydex on these?
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My understanding is that the GSO-5.1 and 4.7 models will be testing out a new sheath-maker, the one I suggested to Guy back in March 2015. Guy has had Kiah underwater with orders for so long :cool: It's still Guy & Kiah's designs afaik, and Kiah will be doing the work on specific models, but I'm pretty sure the sheath on my new GSO-5.1 didn't come from his shop.
 
I have handled a preproduction sample 5.1 and Those new sheaths are miles ahead of the old ones. And the old ones were good
 
Chiral, I saw your video before work this morning and loved it. The way you use the knife and your insight about blades in general is meaningful. Don't sell yourself short just because youtube isn't your part time job :)

I am waiting for a chance to read the written review, looking forward to it!
 
Thanks for the video chiral. It may seem like I am missing the point of the video but I swear I am not. Seeing the 5.1 in use makes waiting that much harder, but...

What kind of pants were you wearing? They looked really thick like they'd be great work/outdoor wear.
 
chiral.grolim said:
Yeah, posted a review during a lull in my shift last night: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...1-compared-with-Swamp-Rat-Ratmandu-and-ESEE-6

Here's the embedded video - nothing professional like you see with Gideons tactical, just some random use and abuse. I did record a shaving video, but it seemed redundant with the previous GSO-5.1 shaving video, and it honestly isn't that comfortable, Guy is finishing these to an ultra-fine polish :o ... I may still record a throwing video ;) I am impressed at how tough the knife is. I lost the shaving-edge amidst all the batonning, but the knife would still cut printer-paper after pushing through that section of gutter, no visible rolls or even glints - clearly I was too gentle! :D

[video=youtube;gYWafo6EoTM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYWafo6EoTM[/video]
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Your video is great. It is not how you filmed it but rather showing us what you did with your knives. Only thing I don't understand is how can someone like your good self bare to use the knife that you have waited ages for by batoning through tin cans? I cringed at the sound of it, but thanks to you I now have faith in the 5.1 without having to put it through the same torture like you did with yours.
 
Nice video Chiral! I have to get one of these 5.1s somehow. Will definitely be thinning my collection a bit to make room for more of guys future offerings.
 
Anttheknee said:
Nice video Chiral! I have to get one of these 5.1s somehow. Will definitely be thinning my collection a bit to make room for more of guys future offerings.
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They should hopefully be on regular ordering this coming Monday. I'm getting one too myself.
 
Nice video chiral. You touched on all the points I was interested in. I like the new handles. Yeah what kind of pants Are those. They look roomy without being baggy. Like you could rock climb in them. Thanks for the review though.
 
Thanks for the support, all :cool:

The pants are from a nearby Duluth Trading Company outlet - they have occasional sales and discounts and a clearance "tent" sale on returns and factory-seconds - their "firehose jeans", although I wear their "firehose workpants" most of the time that I'm outdoors. My wife insists on these because I am apparently really hard on pants. We have a lot of buck-brush and brambles, green-briar and old barded-wire around our property, these are thick protection. We also heat with wood and, while these are not leather chaps, they do a lot to prevent chainsaw accidents. They also prevent insect bites of course, but aren't exactly light-weight garb for hot-weather.


pjandyho said:
... Only thing I don't understand is how can someone like your good self bare to use the knife that you have waited ages for by batoning through tin cans? I cringed at the sound of it, but thanks to you I now have faith in the 5.1 without having to put it through the same torture like you did with yours.
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A while back, I was cutting apart gutters and metal roofing for the barn/shed I built off our garage to hold hay and livestock, and the snips were having a heck of a time cutting through - too many ridges/angles, and the edges on the snips are crazy thick, I really need to get around to grind them down. I gave up on the snips and grabbed my Swamp Rat Rodent Solution from the sheath at my side and started pounding and accomplished the task much more easily and quickly :cool: However, I'd thinned the edge-angle on the RS for hunting, and this (ab)use (I cut a lot of roofing that day) tore pieces out all along the apex - I should have taken pictures before I resharpened it, but it was much worse than the slight edge-damage seen at the end of my NeckerII video. Nevertheless, it didn't take me nearly as long to fix that damage as it would have taken me to cut apart all that metal with those snips :thumbup:

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With the knife-review videos, I'm trying to show a little of what the edge can handle and also potential ways the knife could be used, so I try to show some paper, cardboard, different woods, sometimes carpet, rope, feedbags, and since I've used my knives to cut apart tin/steel materials, I figure that someone else is bound to be doing it as well, might as well show that!

Also, I'm starting to try to show edge-repair in some of the videos, and there's no point showing that if I don't damage the edge sufficiently to require it - cutting apart metal cans and gutters is a good way to make that happen :p I was really surprised that the 5.1 took no visible damage, since I managed to dent up the edge of the 4.1 test-knife Guy sent me (seen in another video). I may have to try some thicker metal or a nail like in Nathan's video, or just wiggle the edge more once it's embedded... but I'm not really trying to damage the knife, just use it "normally" until it needs edge-repair. That 5.1 won't shave or slice newsprint after that use, but it would still cut printer paper, which is sharp enough for most tasks I'd use a knife this big for anyway. I did use it for butchering a couple of roosters, but it's really too big and the edge still too thick for such a task, but I wouldn't put my preferred butchering knives to cutting cans and gutters!
 
Thanks Chiral. You are the only guy whom I have seen who would willingly stick his knife into the mud to dig out cattails. Granted, it was a test knife sent by Survive! but you did it again with your personal knife by chopping and batoning tin cans. I know I won't do that to mine, because if I do damage mine, I may not have the skills to repair it, and a new one is months away. Having said that, I still wouldn't hesitate to abuse it if it meant getting myself out of a life and death situation. Thanks for doing this for all of us! Because of what you did, we all now understands our GSOs better.
 
Black locust is the bane of whatever I happen to be wearing at the time. We've got greenbrier here and there, but thankfully it's not too prevalent. Have found Kuhl to be durable and wear well but they're a little pricey, will give Duluth Co. another look.
 
Thanks for the video Chiral, well done. Seems to be a real performer. Guy was showing off the improved rust resistance of the new heat treat protocol on Instagram. Wow, it was impressive! This should be s great all around blade. I got in on the presale and hope to get mine in hand soon.
 
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