Survive

Under federal law, online sellers have to ship when they say they will, even in an ad. If they don’t? Well, they’re required to tell you and give you an opportunity to cancel the order or get a full refund.


The FTC ruler requires that when you advertise merchandise for sale in the Untied States, you must have a reasonable basis for stating or implying that you can ship within a certain time. You must keep your promise or must give the buyer an opportunity to cancel the order or get a full refund.

If the seller ,akes no shipment statement, it must have a reasonable basis for believing that you can ship within 30 days. That is why direct marketers sometimes call this the "30-day Rule."

If, after taking the customer’s order, you learn that you cannot ship within the time you stated or within 30 days, you must seek the customer’s consent to the delayed shipment. If you cannot obtain the customer’s consent to the delay -- either because it is not a situation in which you are permitted to treat the customer’s silence as consent and the customer has not expressly consented to the delay, or because the customer has expressly refused to consent -- you must, without being asked, promptly refund all the money the customer paid you for the unshipped merchandise.

Whenever you change the shipment date by providing a delay notice, you must have a "reasonable basis" for:

the new shipment date, or

any representation that you do not know when you can ship the merchandise.

"Reasonable basis" means that the merchant has, at the time of making the representation, such information as would under the circumstances satisfy a reasonable and prudent businessperson, acting in good faith, that the representation is true.

In 2020, on line vendor Fashion Nova paid $9.3 million U.S. to settle an FTC prosecution for violating the Rule. “According to the FTC, despite Fashion Nova’s use of phrases like ‘Fast Shipping,’ ‘2-Day Shipping,’ and ‘Expect Your Items Quick!,’ the company often failed to meet its shipping promises to consumers, and failed to meet the Mail Order Rule’s requirement that consumers must be notified of shipping delays and given the chance to cancel orders and receive prompt refunds. The upshot: The company violated consumers’ legal right to decide for themselves either ‘OK, I’ll wait’ [for you to meet the newly stated delivery date] or ‘No way.’ Cancel and refund my money.” In addition, the complaint alleged that Fashion Nova at times failed to refund consumers for the items it didn’t ship. Instead, it was the company’s policy to issue gift cards, which aren’t considered refunds under the Mail Order Rule. The company also failed to cancel orders and provide refunds when it didn’t offer consumers delay option notices.”
 
Hey all. Has anyone else had any problems with orders from Survive Knives? I placed 2 separate orders with them in November of 2022. We are rapidly approaching the one year mark and there’s nothing but crickets on their end. They don’t answer phones, voicemail is full and they don’t respond to emails. I have confirmed that they took my payment. I’ve watched all the so called “update” videos that don’t actually provide any updates other than “we’re working”.
Starting to feel like I’ve been scammed
Crap. Damn sorry you got suckered by them. As you can see in this thread, they have a long, long, long history of non-delivery of knives and shady behavior. Hope you get either knives or money back soon.
 
Before this thread gets locked…

Self disclosing here… I was one of their “fanboys” for lack of a better term and a huge supporter of them in the beginning. Thats no longer the case.

Their knives are great. They are horrible at filling orders in a timely fashion. Their business model is total crap. I waited over 5 years for one. I honestly dont know how they are still operating and how Guy is able to turn enough profit to “survive”

Also… it is a fact that EVERYTHING I have ever bought from them was delivered and was excellent. Total I have owned around 10 of their products.

The issue with them is that they are one minor disaster away from you never getting your knife and losing your money.

If you dont want to wait for an unspecified period of time, then get your money back.

If you dont care, you might get your knife EVENTUALLY. There is no way to figure out how long that will be and as stated before it wouldnt take much of an issue to completely shutter their business.
His "business model" was invented by Ponzi. The guy is a scumbag.
 
Anyone have open orders with them that are still waiting extended periods? Let me know. Mine was January 17 22- since then I’ve only received excuses. Time has run out for Guy though, I’ve contacted their local DA and am taking steps to flying to PA for some court dates, of course I’m putting the whole expense back on Survive knives, if you have an order I would need proof and I’ll let my attorney do the rest- I want them shut down and interest on the moneys paid into them.
 
Anyone have open orders with them that are still waiting extended periods? Let me know. Mine was January 17 22- since then I’ve only received excuses. Time has run out for Guy though, I’ve contacted their local DA and am taking steps to flying to PA for some court dates, of course I’m putting the whole expense back on Survive knives, if you have an order I would need proof and I’ll let my attorney do the rest- I want them shut down and interest on the moneys paid into them.
Yup. 9/15/22. GSO 5.1 Magnacut $269 paid in full. Tried contacting them via email on two separate occasions and all I got was a canned auto-reply one of those times. Zero response to a request for refund. I also attempted contact via the comment section on their YouTube videos and got blocked. I still have the original order confirmation email saved, as well as the attempted contact emails.
 
Under federal law, online sellers have to ship when they say they will, even in an ad. If they don’t? Well, they’re required to tell you and give you an opportunity to cancel the order or get a full refund.


The FTC ruler requires that when you advertise merchandise for sale in the Untied States, you must have a reasonable basis for stating or implying that you can ship within a certain time. You must keep your promise or must give the buyer an opportunity to cancel the order or get a full refund.

If the seller ,akes no shipment statement, it must have a reasonable basis for believing that you can ship within 30 days. That is why direct marketers sometimes call this the "30-day Rule."

If, after taking the customer’s order, you learn that you cannot ship within the time you stated or within 30 days, you must seek the customer’s consent to the delayed shipment. If you cannot obtain the customer’s consent to the delay -- either because it is not a situation in which you are permitted to treat the customer’s silence as consent and the customer has not expressly consented to the delay, or because the customer has expressly refused to consent -- you must, without being asked, promptly refund all the money the customer paid you for the unshipped merchandise.

Whenever you change the shipment date by providing a delay notice, you must have a "reasonable basis" for:

the new shipment date, or

any representation that you do not know when you can ship the merchandise.

"Reasonable basis" means that the merchant has, at the time of making the representation, such information as would under the circumstances satisfy a reasonable and prudent businessperson, acting in good faith, that the representation is true.

In 2020, on line vendor Fashion Nova paid $9.3 million U.S. to settle an FTC prosecution for violating the Rule. “According to the FTC, despite Fashion Nova’s use of phrases like ‘Fast Shipping,’ ‘2-Day Shipping,’ and ‘Expect Your Items Quick!,’ the company often failed to meet its shipping promises to consumers, and failed to meet the Mail Order Rule’s requirement that consumers must be notified of shipping delays and given the chance to cancel orders and receive prompt refunds. The upshot: The company violated consumers’ legal right to decide for themselves either ‘OK, I’ll wait’ [for you to meet the newly stated delivery date] or ‘No way.’ Cancel and refund my money.” In addition, the complaint alleged that Fashion Nova at times failed to refund consumers for the items it didn’t ship. Instead, it was the company’s policy to issue gift cards, which aren’t considered refunds under the Mail Order Rule. The company also failed to cancel orders and provide refunds when it didn’t offer consumers delay option notices.”
I am done if I ever get my knife from them, to much wait no action! They don't even update their production schedule. My wife says I will never get my knife, its now a family joke.
 
I am done if I ever get my knife from them, to much wait no action! They don't even update their production schedule. My wife says I will never get my knife, its now a family joke.
Just curious, how long have you been waiting?
 
No offense meant to W wady , but I really hope he is legit and that the legal proceedings are actually happening. Please keep us posted.

BTW, S!K has once again deleted A LOT of negative comments from their FB page. This is not the way a honest and transparent company operates.
 
Anyone have open orders with them that are still waiting extended periods? Let me know. Mine was January 17 22- since then I’ve only received excuses. Time has run out for Guy though, I’ve contacted their local DA and am taking steps to flying to PA for some court dates, of course I’m putting the whole expense back on Survive knives, if you have an order I would need proof and I’ll let my attorney do the rest- I want them shut down and interest on the moneys paid into them.
Yep. Ordered GSO 5.1 MagnaCut August 2023 $284. They don't respond to my emails. I have asked to cancel my order and get a refund. It seems my credit card only allows disputes within 60 days, so the Survive! 90 days delivery estimate makes is certain that it is past the dispute period.
 
No offense meant to W wady , but I really hope he is legit and that the legal proceedings are actually happening. Please keep us posted.

BTW, S!K has once again deleted A LOT of negative comments from their FB page. This is not the way a honest and transparent company operates.
The also shadow all the negative comments on YouTube on their excuse... I mean "update" videos. I think what they do on YouTube is that all comments go into review so they only approve the positive ones to be viewed by the public.
 
The also shadow all the negative comments on YouTube on their excuse... I mean "update" videos. I think what they do on YouTube is that all comments go into review so they only approve the positive ones to be viewed by the public.
Yup. I have left comments on their YouTube videos and FB posts. None of the YouTube comments ever went through; they just delete what they don't like. They watch their FB much less and the posts will go through, but I don't think they care since it's probably much less traffic there and not as impactful on new orders coming in. I don't have other socials, but I think on IG they just turn off comments or something. I imagine it would make it very difficult for them to sucker in new buyers if they had a wall of negative comments on every post.
 
Yup. I have left comments on their YouTube videos and FB posts. None of the YouTube comments ever went through; they just delete what they don't like. They watch their FB much less and the posts will go through, but I don't think they care since it's probably much less traffic there and not as impactful on new orders coming in. I don't have other socials, but I think on IG they just turn off comments or something. I imagine it would make it very difficult for them to sucker in new buyers if they had a wall of negative comments on every post.
I got suckered because of seeing YouTubers shilling for Survive! and not pointing out the delivery problems. I should have searched on BladeForums before I ordered. Finally I saw AlaskanFrontier1 and Jacob B Peterson give an honest review and point out the on-going continuous problems with Survive! I don't have Facebook, IG, Twitter, or any others and don't want to.
 
I got suckered because of seeing YouTubers shilling for Survive! and not pointing out the delivery problems. I should have searched on BladeForums before I ordered. Finally I saw AlaskanFrontier1 and Jacob B Peterson give an honest review and point out the on-going continuous problems with Survive! I don't have Facebook, IG, Twitter, or any others and don't want to.
Same. I saw some favorable YouTube videos. Later on I found an everyday commentary review that at least acknowledged the shitty comms and wait times, but it wasn't until I found all the forum post here and on Reddit that I knew I got fucked. I tried to charge back, but it was already outside the window. I at least reported the fraud through the FTC site here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/#/

But in the "next steps" they list after submitting, they admit that they really don't move on an investigation until the reports pile up enough. They also suggest hitting up the state AG. I think it's at least a good place for us all to start to file the FTC complaint. It takes only a few minutes and is pretty clear and straightforward. There's a drop down selection for "submitting payment up front and not getting the product within the expected delivery window." Pretty clear that what Survive! does is considered fraud by government standards, as Thomas Linton Thomas Linton points out. The more of us report, the more we hopefully move the needle and build to mobilizing an investigation.
 
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