Survivorman Bigfoot

I think they really where in the locations they said, at least the type of terrain looked right. I just wonder how Todd was able to get the permit for the pistol. That sort of made me wonder off the top, but there is no way that they were on private property in the second ep. He has been chased by a bear supposedly, but he had a camera, and there is no footage of him being chased by the bear. Doesn't add up for me. If the bear is chasing you so that you don't have the ability to take its picture, you are already dead. If the bear is following you, why not take it's picture? Why not do any of the things that you are supposed to do? running away being very much on the bottom of that list.

Every culture has bogeyman stories for sure. But they are usually different from their bigfoot legend. But with several hundred years of eurpoeans trading ideas around the world, I wonder if maybe that hasn't averaged them out?
I would not be surprised if lots of the stories that have been told have been coached, intentionally or not. Or that there were details that the witness did not understand. I wonder if those whoops he heard might be elk? Very often witnesses remember only details that fit within what they expected to see. So if someone is primed to see a bigfoot, a bear on its back legs might look very different.

I'm interested in Cryptozoology just because every once and a while, something shows up with a rational explanation. I'm pretty sure that Chupacabra sightings are actually mangy raccoons. It fits the profile more or less. That's one of the reasons i like the show River Monsters. Sure they hype the drama, but he shows how simple it is for a big fish to become a legend. I'm all for looking for things that might or might not exist. Its one of the things that makes humans what we are. I have no time for someone who lies in an effort to promote themselves. Guys like Todd Standing drag down the entire field of cryptozoology, when in reality we can be learning so much from figuring out what started these legends.

As for why someone would start a hoax, you can thank Mr. P.T. Barnum. Even if the hoax only lasts a little while, there can be a lot of money to be made. Unfortunately for most of the bigfoot hoaxters, they don't remember the part about not breaking any laws, or that you need to stay famous for more than 5 minutes, and thats nearly impossible these days. Interestingly on Todd's website he is always referred to as a skeptic... Although I do appreciate that he supports SAR, although considering his back-country behavior, He better if he wants anyone to come looking for him.

As for the show, I thought it was pretty good. He does the survivor man style shooting, and its an interesting take on the bigfoot hunt show. I can see how he was able to sell it. The last bigfoot hunter show I saw was laughable. four overweight guys struggling along a road, putting out three trap cameras, and then siting in a panic circle all night wearing night vision. Or the monster hunter guys getting injured ten minutes in, running around getting lost, and chasing their own echos.
 
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I am torn on this. I have a hard time believing there is a BigFoot, but we are in a strange and large world.
46 days ago, a big ass airplane friggin diss-oh-peered somewhere after taking off in Malaysia !!! 200 foot wingspan !!
We can't seem to find the damn thing with all the subs, planes, satellites, etc.

A few hairy, tall ape like things out in the woods of North America just might be possible.
 
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Just watched it something's deffinatly off about Paul's footage but the rest of the "evidance" dosent seem set up to me, but I'll believe in Bigfoot when I can go to the zoo and watch it pacing in a cage.
 
Although I'm an avid reader of bigfoot/ yowie stories, I'm still not convinced and just think that the human mind can play massive tricks on people when faced with isolation, solitude, darkness and a forboding bush. Just the other night, I had a late night fishing expedition with my wife on a popular river in the Far East of the state of Victoria. There were all sorts of weird noises that we couldnt explain as well as tree knocks, but there is no way that anything like a Yowie old live undetected in this area with all the passing
traffic and people. Was creepy, but just our imaginations getting the best of us.
 
The show was well staged, but to make it more convincing there needs to be physical evidence that includes bones, carcasses and dens.
 
Why no bigfoot bodies? Why no real bigfoots struck by cars RIP to the hoaxer. Why no bones? Is there a Bigfoot burial ground? How does Bigfoot overcome the primate lack of night vision so much so that a "night investigation" is often needed? How many Big(feet) are they? One of two living forever or a breading population spanning the globe who are magically so elusive? Inquiring minds want to know!
 
When I was a 10 I was living in Washington State the state I was born in. My uncle went on a hunting trip once and came back with a broken arm. He had this crazy story about getting chased by Bigfoot, I was convinced Bigfoot broke his arm! I even told all my friends about it and had them all convinced. Now I am not so sure. He passed away many years ago so now I cannot interview him and go over the facts and account of his story. Ii Is family lore that cannot not be proven one way or another now.

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heresthedeal said:
Never seen the footage you are talking about, but the thing that gets me when it comes to bigfoots,(or bigfeet, whatever the plural of them is) is this.

There have been people killed by deer, dogs, bears, cougar, and snakes(and more). There have been documented attacks by groundhogs, raccoons, beavers, birds, and even squirrels, but nobody gives them a second thought really.

When it comes to bigfoots, or bigfeet all of a sudden when someone sees one they are afraid and run or feel fear like it's for some reason going to hurt them.

Not one instance of a bigfoot causing anybody any harm at all, but everyone seems to be afraid of them.

Why?

I had a feral horse attack my truck once in Southeast Kentucky and I still don't run from horses and not really any fear of them.

I do need to add that I don't believe in bigfoot, so it's not a problem for me but to the people that do, why the fear?
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Yes, the abominable snow man lives with Santa Clause at the north pole. The Easter Bunny and Tooth Ferry are frequent visitors I hear.
 
Another confusing thing to me a.bout the images show in the show was that the hair almost seems combed !!!
I think Bigfoot has a mirror hidden somewhere too.
 
upnorth said:
Yes, the abominable snow man lives with Santa Clause at the north pole. The Easter Bunny and Tooth Ferry are frequent visitors I hear.
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That's a relief. Then the mailed letters and requests are getting through. :D
 
upnorth said:
Yes, the abominable snow man lives with Santa Clause at the north pole. The Easter Bunny and Tooth Ferry are frequent visitors I hear.
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Maybe but as discussed in the other Bigfoot thread there is my Roswell Gray encounter suit theory. What we take for granted, a Sunday coffee and bannock hike through the woods could be deadly to a little 24 inch tall alien Gray. The sun would bake it's naked pasty gray skin in minutes. The ticks, mosquitoes, horse/deer/black flies would have a field day. The black bear, rattlers, some birds of pray, opening day deer hunter itching to fill his tags, dogs, reintroduced wolves, coyotes would all have a bite. The air probably has one or more toxic gasses that we consider "essential for life" but to our Gray, not so much.

The Big Foot encounter suit solves all of the little Gray's problems. Put it on and presto! The Gray is almost invulnerable and nearly impossible to see. Electronic counter measures only enhances the stealth aspects. If on the off chance something goes wrong the "mother ship" will send alien SAR teams to sort it out. I don't have any actual hard evidence to support this theory but remember that absence of proof is not proof of absence.
 
555 said:
That's a relief. Then the mailed letters and requests are getting through. :D
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Good thing that the union covered 60% of my dental last year. Tooth Ferry only left a quarter under my pillow back in the 60's. :D
 
Woods Walker said:
Maybe but as discussed in the other Bigfoot thread there is my Roswell Gray encounter suit theory. What we take for granted, a Sunday coffee and bannock hike through the woods could be deadly to a little 24 inch tall alien Gray. The sun would bake it's naked pasty gray skin in minutes. The ticks, mosquitoes, horse/deer/black flies would have a field day. The black bear, rattlers, some birds of pray, opening day deer hunter itching to fill his tags, dogs, reintroduced wolves, coyotes would all have a bite. The air probably has one or more toxic gasses that we consider "essential for life" but to our Gray, not so much.

The Big Foot encounter suit solves all of the little Gray's problems. Put it on and presto! The Gray is almost invulnerable and nearly impossible to see. Electronic counter measures only enhances the stealth aspects. If on the off chance something goes wrong the "mother ship" will send alien SAR teams to sort it out. I don't have any actual hard evidence to support this theory but remember that absence of proof is not proof of absence.
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Best hypothesis that I've read yet. :thumbup:
 
Here's some video evidence of something for ya:
[video=youtube;nPrWo5pEvyk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPrWo5pEvyk[/video]
 
gadgetgeek said:
I just wonder how Todd was able to get the permit for the pistol.
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Was it shot in Oz? Here in the US people shooting movies and television can have all kinds of props. They often use real guns, though of course not loaded with real bullets. Every time California enacts a new gun law it specifically exempts Hollywood. They don't want to interfere with the movie industry, heavens no!
 
Cougar Allen said:
Was it shot in Oz? Here in the US people shooting movies and television can have all kinds of props. They often use real guns, though of course not loaded with real bullets. Every time California enacts a new gun law it specifically exempts Hollywood. They don't want to interfere with the movie industry, heavens no!
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As long as everybody is watching movies, it's a great distraction that allows the politicians to pass there laws.;)
 
Shot in Canada, in places I've been a few times. It is possible to get a pistol permit for protection in the wilderness. It's not easy though. The system is set up so that someone who works in a wilderness setting to carry a pistol for protection. However its pretty challenging to get, you have to prove why you need it, and why you can't carry a non-restricted firearm. Plus its only part of a set of permits that are required to be signed off on by all interested parties. Handgun ownership in and of itself is not that hard in Canada. However actually doing anything with said pistol requires a tree worth of paper. Most people just cannot be bothered to do much more than range days. But either way it likely puts them just outside the park boundary. Which raises some question about access and setups.

Most hunting guides who might need a backup gun carry something like a marlin guide, or a shorter shotgun, as far as I know, since no permit is required (apart from the normal stuff) I know people who have gotten permits for pistol carry, one who worked as a remote heli pilot, but she had a connection to the provincial firearms officer. Carry of a replica in this case would be illegal as well, so not sure what's to be gained from that. I'm just curious why he would go through so much red-tape for something like that. Maybe he is legitimately that afraid out there, Its just interesting that's all.
I also met a guy who did some firearms work for Lonesome Dove. While most of the shooting was blanks, there were a few scenes shot with live ammo as normal methods of syncing shots and charges wasn't possible. He said that involved a fair stack of paperwork, but since it was TV they got the permits after the fact. Also the only reason the scenes were able to be done that way was because he has a fair amount of authority on that sort of stuff with what he does as a consultant for the police.
 
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I can't believe no one has brought this up. Here is concrete "evidence" of the existence of bigfoot. Pictured below is one of several horses that have had their manes braided. The only logical answer- BIGFOOT of course .....


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Bigfoot 'researchers' and Survivorman... Made for each other. Makes me wonder what took them so long?

And makes me wonder what's coming next? Prepper Wife Swapping? Gold miners competing in timed cookoffs? Pawn Stars and Hardcore Pawn guys living together in Drama Mansion?

:rolleyes:
 
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