Swiss Army Knives suck.

Nope,

Can't agree. I love my Vic. Farmer. It has been my EDC for the last 2 years. I use it almost everyday.
 
Roger999 said:
I don't need a 1/4" spine in a pocket knife.
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I do. ;)

I hate SAKs, they are ... [edited :)] ... handicapped. I do own a multi-tool and I carry it when traveling far away from my actual TOOLS but other than that there will be no such time wasting inefficient nonsense in my knife box.

EDIT: ok, they do come in handy and yes i did have one at one time.






Knife? now THIS is a KNIFE.
 
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allenC said:
For a knife that you don't like, you sure seem to have quite a few of them.


Too thin for what?
Exactly what are you cutting, with a 2.5" non-locking slip-joint folder, that you feel the SAk blade is too thin for?
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Compared to what, other 420 steel blades?


You never need to tighten a screw?
Or open a non-twist-off bottle-cap?
Or pluck a stray hair with tweezers?
Or pick some food particles from your teeth with the toothpick?
Or scrape or ream something with the awl/reamer? (yes, you could use a regular blade, but why dull your main blade on reaming a metal pipe?).
Or trim a finger-nail or your mustache with the scissors?
Or open a corked wine bottle?



If you don't carry one then you will never realize how handy they are.
And you'll make more trips to the tool-box than if you did carry one.

I love one-hand folders.
And I love traditional locking folders.
And I love traditional non-locking folders.
But I cannot deny that the humble Swiss Army Knife is one of the handiest and most useful knives around.
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you're cool, well said
 
I dissagree strongly with the OP. in my opinion, certainly design wise, SAKS are pretty good, their production quality is also excellent, and the steel, while not a super steel, works perfectly well.
I've never seen a problem with the blade thickness, it's stiff enough for most general jobs, and no-one in thier right minds is going to attempt heavy duty tasks with what is bascially equivilent to the old style non-locking penknives, but with more tools.
I only see two problems with the series as a whole:
1) the one handed opening models are not easily available in plain edge (atleast not in the UK, finding the one handed model at all is a bit of a challenge)
2) there are so manny models, finding one with the right tools is a bit of a challange (but, on the other hand, chances are that there is a model that is right for you, more or less from stock)
 
bladefoolish said:
Well, looks like I AM in the minority. I think everybody should own one or two, but they still are way down my list as an edc. I prefer my mini-grip or a good stout trapper slipjoint.
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Like you said in your earlier post, you don't use the tools much. If you don't use the tools on them, you might as well have a dedicated folder instead.

I use the tools on my SAKS all the time so I dig 'em. I EDC a Classic SD on my key chain. If I wasn't using the tweezers and toothpick so much, I would EDC a Spyderco Ladybug instead.
 
The people who don't carry SAK's or multi tools are often the people who end up needing to use their knife as a pry bar or screwdriver.
 
The fact that everyone here has owned atleast one SAK says enough.

Anyone know why the Alox series doesn't have the toothpick and tweezers?
 
5.56 said:
The fact that everyone here has owned atleast one SAK says enough.

Anyone know why the Alox series doesn't have the toothpick and tweezers?
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It doesn't fit, the Alox scales are thinner than the plastic scales.
 
Just a question. What is the difference between a Deluxe Tinker and a Super Tinker? Or are they the same knife with a name change.
SAK's are great knives. Have had one or twelve all my adult life.
 
If the sak isnt right for you thats cool but seeing as its quite a time tested design that is still in wide use/ production I would say that most people tend to disagree with your statement. That being said I love my one sak and use it quite often with very good results.
 
I don't know if they still do but Swiss Bianco has offered SAKs with ATS-34 blades in the past.

Carried one all through Vietnam and for years after that. A SAK will do anything I expect of a "pocket" knife.

If you carry one long enough, you will be surprised how many unexpected ways the tools come in handy.
 
I have had SAK's all my adult life. I wouldn't go on an annual training or deployment without one because of their incredible versatility. Sawblades have made boards to brace up rented A/C units in sheds barely fit for livestock, scissors have provided the only method of trimming hair or fingernails, the screwdrivers we the only ones quickly available to repair equipment, door locks, or help fashion expedient devices.

BUT

SAK's aren't that good. I can't stand to EDC one because of the odd shape, lack of a pocket clip, lightweight construction, less than adult colors, oddball blade options, small blades, and mandatory options.

How about a hard use SAK? Yeah, like ATS 34 flat ground drop point 3 1/2" long, liner lock, with G10 slabs, an unbreakable saw blade and universal can/bottle opener with screwdriver like the NATO version, and a lifetime guarantee. Don't forget the clip.

Oops, not a SAK. That would be something else, the Zombie Army Knife, the ZAK.

I'd edc that.
 
great for edc, but I want to have a fixed blade with it if I am carrying it in the woods.
 
S.A. is a perfect fit for me because it is inexpensive, I do things with it that I would never do to a high dollar knife, its my everyday workhorse. I have become so accustom to having it with me that my tally for knife donations to airport security is now 3..that kind of donation with higher end knives would have put me in the padded room....Steve
 
From the '80s to the late '90s my one and only EDC was an old Victorinox Spartan (the one without the tweezers/toothpick included). It served me very well and held up to some abuse and very little care. To be truthful, I rarely used the blade itself to cut more than fruit. Most of the more abusive cutting I used the smaller blade for.

Now I prefer to carry a Vic Executive, an alox Vic Soldier, and some type(s) of one-hand folder. I use the folder(s) for the heavier cutting, but I get regular uses out of all the tools on these two SAKs. These two SAKs have features I use and not a thing extra (except the Executive's key ring). Though I plan to eventually semi-retire the Soldier in favor of a Farmer. Those little saws are deceptively useful for their size.
Jim
 
I'm not a fan of the thicker SAKs with 4 or 5 layers but I love the simple 2 layer SAKs. The thicker SAKs are where you start seeing some of the less useful tools. I also have no use for the hook. I prefer cellidor over alox knives because they're lighter. They sit better in the pocket as a result. I also like the slightly thinner blades on the cellidor models. The Spartan is my favorite model followed by the Tinker, Compact, then Alox Soldier.

Swiss Army Knives do not suck.
 
Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they suck. I hate pickup trucks and would never drive one, but I don't think they suck. They perform a certain job that I don't need a vehicle to do... just as an SAK may not perform a job you need it to do. They don't suck.

I've EDC'd a Victorinox Soldier since 2003 and I probably reach for it more than my one handed EDC (currently a Spyderco Paramilitary). In fact, I don't think there are any tasks that I perform with a knife on a day to day basis that the Soldier couldn't handle. I just prefer to keep its blade clean and only use it for food prep and let the large EDC handle all the dirty stuff.

But if sanitation wasn't an issue (and if I didn't love my new Paramilitary so damn much), I'd be fine with just the Soldier.

Sure, the edge doesn't last forever, but so what? Five minutes on a fine stone and you're back to hair popping sharp. Anyone who hates to sharpen a knife and complains when a knife gets dull has no business carrying and using knives to begin with.

As others have said, for the money, Victorinox makes the best knives in the world. The quality of Victorinox knives is better than knives that cost ten times as much. That Soldier that I've EDC'd for six years walks and talks like the day I opened the box.
 
We shouldn't hate SAKs.
we should hate Victorinox for not making more technically superior SAKs which should cost as little as they would an ordinary SAK now!
i m thinking super steels, locking mechanism, and light weight materials.
but i guess it's a business, and we have to make do with it now. <lol>
 
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