Szaboinc "Battle Sickle" ???

Jgarth: You sure talk about mommies and daddies a whole lot. Just because you might have a penchant for wearing adult diapers, babies bonnets and sucking your thumb doesn't mean that everyone else here does.

Be nice to the new guys. You've got no right to make the automatic assumptions and speak with the condescension that you do in nearly every post of yours I have read. I thank you for your service, sir, but it gives you absolutely no right to speak to others with disrespect and condescension, particularly without provocation.

I figured a man of your age, having lived the life you have, would know that by now.
 
Rough,
I guess your right. I just tried to help this individual, but not in a proper fashion. I did not realize he was so sensitive.
Glad you're not following me into the restroom too ...
JGarth ....
 
roughedges said:
Jgarth: You sure talk about mommies and daddies a whole lot. Just because you might have a penchant for wearing adult diapers, babies bonnets and sucking your thumb doesn't mean that everyone else here does.

Be nice to the new guys. You've got no right to make the automatic assumptions and speak with the condescension that you do in nearly every post of yours I have read. I thank you for your service, sir, but it gives you absolutely no right to speak to others with disrespect and condescension, particularly without provocation.

I figured a man of your age, having lived the life you have, would know that by now.
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Well said!

Books
remember that Jgarth does not represent the majority of the membership here. The majority are good people who will give good info and advice.
 
JGarth said:
Rough,
I guess your right. I just tried to help this individual, but not in a proper fashion. I did not realize he was so sensitive.
Glad you're not following me into the restroom too ...
JGarth ....
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Thanks guys for your comments and the welcome. I'm happy I've found this place. All of the information just seems to be overwhelming!! I will not hesitate to post questions to you guys in the future... I've already read some posts that extolled Szabo and his work, and after closer inspection to his website, I just didn't understand what I was seeing!! Thanks for clearing that up...

As to you "JGarth," I'm not at all sensitive or thin-skinned, and nope I'm not at all offended by your initial or succeeding comments... I just don't let people walk all over me. And it’s nice to see a lot of forum members don't take it either... My "Daddy" taught me that belligerence should never be tolerated, but kicked in the face... Tread more carefully next time...

Oh, and I still think watching you take a leak would be hilarious!!
 
books,
sorry my first post was sarcastic.
On a serious note to me that piece is ridiculous in the fact that it could never be carried in public. It would not be advisable to strap that piece of hardware on your hip. It would take very little time for someone to get scared with you walking around the street with that on and report you to an LEO who would likely not look on that as a normal edc. The other disadvantage is that in many self defense situations people are in homes or other areas with objects in close proximity. Swinging that thing around without hitting someone or something else isn't very practical.
Honestly I think it is extremely impractical and that the chances of stabbing yourself in the leg are fairly high;)
For that kind of money a handgun that can be legally concealed is much more practical.
 
In all fairness to Mr. Szabo who is not here to defend himself or his design the Battle Sickle was designed for specific applications.

ice climbing pick, a dagger, a bolo and a meat hook. Unlike a tomahawk, limited by the size of its head, the battle sickle is one continuous blade ,allowing the weapon to slash thru instead of getting stuck . A tomahawk is head heavy and has almost the same characteristics of a hammer, making it hard to wield it like a knife, for speed .Also, the handle of a tomahawk is basically a straight slick stick, not the best grip design when you re flinging a heavy object in circular motions. The Battle Sickle is designed for ultimate grip retention , ultimate slashing power and speed for a weapon of this kind .The reinforced tip ( a great idea from Mr Bud Nealy) makes the Battle Sickle suitable for any situation in the field, perfect tool against rifles with bayonets and other heavier weapons
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Is it an EDC piece for carry in the wilds of the urban jungle? Certainly not. Is it meant to peel an orange ? Obviously not.

As stated above Laci Designed it to take the place of a fighting tomahawk. The characteristics listed above describe the advantages the sickle has over the average tomahawk. So let's keep things in context. If you wouldn't be carrying a fighting tomahawk in a situation don't carry the battle sickle.

Like any other Szabo design most folks need to look at it a few times to "get" it. Some never will. And like any other knife, if you like it buy it, carry it, love it. If you don't, don't buy it.
 
I also apologise if my first post seemed harsh. Cmon though. I dont care how you feel about Laci, this is a toy. Regular soldiers dont need such weapons and niether do special forces/seals/Rangers/swat or anyone else. This is not a secondary, easy to deploy backup weapon. Lots of tactical tomahawks are sold, how many are used to kill? My guess would be close to zero. The fact is these weapons are aimed at an image people have in there head. Laci Doesnt go sneeking into enemy bases singlehandedly dispatching enemy after enemy at knife point. Only guys in video games and movies do. Our well trained soldiers who do sensetive work have far more effective killing weapons and silencers that are years ahead of what we had just a decade ago.

I meant no disrespect to the OP or Laci, but this knife is something that gets used in the dojo or living room so thats the opinion I have to give on it. If there was a special CIA death squad killer who needed a knife my gut tells me this simply would not want such a specialized weapon designed to kill or attack in a specific fashion. Bob Loveless designed one of the greatest fighting knives of all times and was just a knife maker. I dont think someone bieng a Marine or martial artist makes you a better knife designer. Otherwise Loveless' design would have been surpased a million times over and every knife maker desinging large fighters would be modeling there thoughts after one of these "special designed killing machine" knives.

Laci might be a marine but a quick search of this forums will turn up thousands of marines, rangers and other military personel that will tell you striaght out they laugh at the guys who show up with big scary knives strapped to there leg. They know they will be carrying a multitool and a pocket knife soon enough. Laci bieng a great martial artist doesnt change that reality of teh world. Even if you really are a special operative who needs a silent kill theres nothing at all this knife can do that a bowie cant and alot a bowie can do it cant. This talk of knife attacks designed to severe the spine and such cracks me up. Also if there all these special trained killers who need these knives then they have obviously dispatched more poeple than Laci, why aernt they the world renowned knife designers?

This isnt to say someone as trained as LAci couldnt mess someone up with this knife, but is that really a suprise or impressive?
 
BigJimSlade said:
I also apologise if my first post seemed harsh. Cmon though. I dont care how you feel about Laci, this is a toy. Regular soldiers dont need such weapons and niether do special forces/seals/Rangers/swat or anyone else. This is not a secondary, easy to deploy backup weapon. Lots of tactical tomahawks are sold, how many are used to kill? My guess would be close to zero. The fact is these weapons are aimed at an image people have in there head. Laci Doesnt go sneeking into enemy bases singlehandedly dispatching enemy after enemy at knife point. Only guys in video games and movies do. Our well trained soldiers who do sensetive work have far more effective killing weapons and silencers that are years ahead of what we had just a decade ago.

I meant no disrespect to the OP or Laci, but this knife is something that gets used in the dojo or living room so thats the opinion I have to give on it. If there was a special CIA death squad killer who needed a knife my gut tells me this simply would not want such a specialized weapon designed to kill or attack in a specific fashion. Bob Loveless designed one of the greatest fighting knives of all times and was just a knife maker. I dont think someone bieng a Marine or martial artist makes you a better knife designer. Otherwise Loveless' design would have been surpased a million times over and every knife maker desinging large fighters would be modeling there thoughts after one of these "special designed killing machine" knives.

Laci might be a marine but a quick search of this forums will turn up thousands of marines, rangers and other military personel that will tell you striaght out they laugh at the guys who show up with big scary knives strapped to there leg. They know they will be carrying a multitool and a pocket knife soon enough. Laci bieng a great martial artist doesnt change that reality of teh world. Even if you really are a special operative who needs a silent kill theres nothing at all this knife can do that a bowie cant and alot a bowie can do it cant. This talk of knife attacks designed to severe the spine and such cracks me up. Also if there all these special trained killers who need these knives then they have obviously dispatched more poeple than Laci, why aernt they the world renowned knife designers?

This isnt to say someone as trained as LAci couldnt mess someone up with this knife, but is that really a suprise or impressive?
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Guys, your apologies are not warranted! If you think this thing is ridiculous, then please say so. I've seen a lot of crazy and impractical designs, but I've never seen any with an $800 price tag, which is why this piece provoked my interest in the first place... My intention with my initial post was to find out what information, if any, I was missing about this thing. Perhaps this thing wielded some kind of practical value that I was unaware of...? I'm glad I'm not crazy hearing your thoughts... I can think of investing $800 more wisely...
 
Ah, come on. If it said 'Strider' some folks would be all over it. Then again, this guy actually has been / or is a marine... ;)
 
I don't see it as being very practicle, but if I was extremely wealthy, with say, a room full of interesting weapons, I'd probably buy one. I definately think szabo offers some cool designs, even if some are impracticle.
 
Laci is a business man who designs knives. He is also a respected martial artist who knows his way around a blade. He studies the function of different historical blades or edged tools used as weapons and designs modern equivilents. While many of his designs are high on KEWL factor, they are functional with in their intended scope. They are also not for a beginner in the use of bladed weapons. They also draw attention to his other designs that are more practical. Which, is where is makes most of his money.

I would suggest giving him a call (if he is available) and asking about some of his designs. He will talk to you. He is, without a doubt, one of the most laid back and unpretentious guys you could meet.
 
Szabo is too over-the-top for my tastes. The item in question looks extreemly impractical for anything other than fighting.

Mr.Szabo reminds me of a pissed off version of Carrot Top...
 
mr.trooper said:
The item in question looks extreemly impractical for anything other than fighting.
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Well, fighting IS what his products are generally designed for. Some are more covert, some are more generally useful. It seems strange, though, to criticize him for being too dedicated to what he does.
 
Book,

aesthetically this implement seems like a wicked weapon. From a practical perspective, I would feel a little inhibited wielding this thing in combat. Most likely I would consider it an ambush weapon, using it perhaps to impale my opponent and stick him against a tree or wall or some such, so I can go to work on him then with a proper blade. This and the Tomahawk they make look cool but seem like an over-extension of a good idea. There are some advantages of a forward curve on a striking implement, but I think these two may go a bit too far.

While I did drool over these when first I saw them, ultimately I said no. I would rather spend the money buying another new Busse AK-47.

Cheers
 
Are you actually thinking seriously about that Battle Sickle? PUUU-LEEEZ!!! Gimme a break! While I'm sure it could be lethal under some conditions (though I'm not sure what they are), that thing looks to me like just another exercise in absurdity, and very expensive absurdity at that. Get real. Get a real knife. That's my .02 worth on the matter anyway. :thumbdn:
 
Dr. Mudd said:
Are you actually thinking seriously about that Battle Sickle? PUUU-LEEEZ!!! Gimme a break! While I'm sure it could be lethal under some conditions (though I'm not sure what they are), that thing looks to me like just another exercise in absurdity, and very expensive absurdity at that. Get real. Get a real knife. That's my .02 worth on the matter anyway. :thumbdn:
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Nope, not thinking about buying one at all. I actually agree with you! Thanks for posting your opinion...
 
Dr. Mudd said:
Are you actually thinking seriously about that Battle Sickle? PUUU-LEEEZ!!! Gimme a break! While I'm sure it could be lethal under some conditions (though I'm not sure what they are), that thing looks to me like just another exercise in absurdity, and very expensive absurdity at that. Get real. Get a real knife. That's my .02 worth on the matter anyway. :thumbdn:
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Why not? Is it really any less practical than the claymores that many of us own? Or the Tactical Tomahawks?
At least it has some kind of legitimate name behind it. Do I think it's practical? No?
But there are many SD tools that I don't think are very good, but other people swear by. (like the kerambit)
If you think it fits with your philosophy of SD (hopefully for home use only), I say go for it, and give them a call.
Don't just buy it flat out, I'd suggest finding out if there's video tapes or something available with it first, but I honestly don't see anything wrong with it. Different strokes for different folks. It's still a knife. It might look strange to some of us, but if it looks like a natural SD tool, it just might be the one for you.
$800 for a custom piece of that size and complexity really isn't bad.
 
Thanks for the link to the web site....I like the Felony stop since it can fit on my liner belt under my duty belt. Now being $250 vs the $20 for the Ka Bar that I already have my be an issue.
 
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