Tactical pants, bags, wallets.....seriously???

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So...what, exactly, makes the item tactical? Since when were there "groups"? You got the ul hikers, alice frame hikers, traditional, primitive, and yes theres the so called 'posers' group, and the mall ninjas. I apologize for griping, but its annoying. Personally, I like a molle bag..being able to install add ons and make it more suitable for myself is a big plus..its as close as most of us will ever get to a custom bag. I dont want it in camo or black, but a nice earth brown isnt bad. I always took the term tactical to apply to skills and manuevers, not a black or camo bag, or a black Knife or cargo pants.

Blah..a pack is a bag, a bag a bag..you stuff stuff in it! A knife is a knife...you cut stuff with it!
 
Can't stand molle gear to be honest so I shy away from "tactical" bags. That customization comes at weight penalty and for me all that organization is actually a draw back for how I use my gear. They also scream "bullet magnet." My wife and I were driving through a campground to scout it for future overnights and we saw this guy walking back to his campsite. Molle bag, "tactical" pants, tucked in nylon "adventurer" shirt...etc. My wife...MY WIFE...said he was a bullet magnet. Don't be that guy. :D


Tactical pants I buy though. I have linebacker thighs and "tactical" pants seem to be the only ones that give me a free range of motion while still looking presentable at work. So, I do key on the word "tactical" when ordering pants.
 
Marketing and gullible buffoons is about the strength of it.

A good current crop of hilarity can be found in TAD gear. TAD Gear Intercept PD Pant looks what folks were issued in the '70s to do porridge. Brown for remand, blue for convicted. A snip at $222 USD. Scarves and hats that a granny could bang out, nay I could knit if I could remember how, $55 - $122 USD. Nothing great about them. Just another set of The Emperor's New Clothes. The only redeeming feature is that rather like people that wear ball game apparel when they aren't playing ball games, they might as well stick on a pair of sandwich boards saying “I am a twat”, and normal people know to dodge them.
 
You forget the Tactical Tacticool I phone bumpers. I have one from Magpul. I liked the color, it matches my Rhino motif and it works!

LOL We all fall for it to some extent.

Also I take issue with your knife is a knife statement. We all know how the Tanto tip blade excels at piecing body armor!:D
 
I miss the good old days when things were simple. A buck 110 was the folding knife of choice, or fixed..a 120 or 119.
 
Rhinoknives1 said:
You forget the Tactical Tacticool I phone bumpers. I have one from Magpul. I liked the color, it matches my Rhino motif and it works!

LOL We all fall for it to some extent.

Also I take issue with your knife is a knife statement. We all know how the Tanto tip blade excels at piecing body armor!:D
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Lol..but I thought a modified spear point was made for that. ;-)
 
Bullet magnet..exactly why I stopped wearing black bags or camo bags. When I had my maxped falcon II, I kept wishing it was earth brown..plus it roasted my back. But I have seen molle in hiking packs, such as kelty redwings, but only a little bit.
 
Bullet magnet.
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Where are you walking around? Lol

I use what works the best, so my stuff is alway a mix. Old BDU pants work great for camping. Molle packs are awesome for adding pouches. etc. But I dont look like I am posing for tactical GQ. lol
 
The marketing term gets pretty annoying, but the quality of some "tactical gear" is great.

I love having all the extra pockets in my maxpedition bag and its very well built.
I also have a 5.11 "tactical" belt. Used to go through a new belt at least every year but this one has lasted probably 4 years and still going strong.

I'd rather see the term "heavy duty" on some of this stuff. At this point "tactical" may push away almost as many potential customers as it attracts.
 
Up until a few years ago, I didn't wear cargo pants. Then I started hiking distances long enough to make use of the extra pockets without needing a pack. Then I upped the distances to the point of wanting a hydration reservoir and decided I might as well buy a pack able to accommodate that as well as some first aid items, fire starting items and spare shoes, socks, etc. Oops, that pack had MOLLE webbing on it! But then I wanted something suitable for overnight camping, and decided that having some items attached via MOLLE might be handy. And then, later on . . .

. . . it never seems to end. As I see it, "tactical" is a short version for "everything but the kitchen sink" in today's terminology. Those cargo pants I mentioned? Just plain ol' department store cargo pants, but sure enough, someone asked me if they were 5.11 because they had more pockets than traditional khakis. No, they would have cost two or three times as much from a tactical-styled brand, which would be money wasted. I still wear them (and others like them) hiking, and maybe other brands are more durable, but I'm not doing enough "operating" to see the benefit.
 
Dont knock tacticool, it lets you identify who you need to drop last because they present zero threat.
 
Tactical:
Of, referring to, or constituting actions carefully planned to gain a specific military end.

So most people are using the word incorrectly. But people do that with lots of words, so the definition should now be:
Of, referring to, or constituting equipment or actions...

Do you like freeze dried food?
Cargo pants?
Synthetic insulation?
Kifaru backpacks?
KA-BAR?
Fuel tabs?
GPS?
Digital cameras?
Maps?
Canned food?
Do you use a belt made from sturdy webbing?

What do they all have in common? They're all tactical. Each was developed as a part of the War machine.

Some of the stuff marketed as tactical is just silly, but a lot of it is designed, developed and employed to assist in the killing of bad guys.
So tactical has become a giant industry to assist good guys beating bad guys any way possible. That's a good thing in my book. And as a result, normal people have access to all kinds of cool stuff.

I don't understand all the hate surrounding this word. Does marketing stuff as tactical get some people to spend money on stuff they don't need? Sure it does, that's marketings job. To get you to buy stuff.
 
I don't pay much attention to it, honestly. Avoiding all things labeled tactical is letting marketing run your life as much as if you go out and buy all of it. I honestly kind of like the trend towards tactical molle bags as it makes it easy to toss on a water bottle or a pouch for my umbrella without having a dedicated pocket that ends up as wasted space when I don't take them. They might not be my first choice for a serious backpacking trip, but they have their place.
 
gruntinhusaybah said:
Tactical:
Of, referring to, or constituting actions carefully planned to gain a specific military end.

So most people are using the word incorrectly. But people do that with lots of words, so the definition should now be:
Of, referring to, or constituting equipment or actions...

....I don't understand all the hate surrounding this word. Does marketing stuff as tactical get some people to spend money on stuff they don't need? Sure it does, that's marketings job. To get you to buy stuff.
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Well, I'm also posting this on the internet, which was developed by the Defense Dept, but I don't delude myself into thinking that it makes me "tactical" to do so.

I don't see the "hate" surrounding this word (and I get tired of anything critical being labeled as "hate") - I just think that if you aren't an operator (in the business of "killing bad guys") then why would you dress like it? What you see as "hate" is just an opinion that people who dress "tactical" but aren't actually in the tactical business are being silly poseurs. I'm not a wizard either - don't you think it would be a little silly if I walked around dressed like one?
 
It might be that you confuse amused dismissal with hate you know. Wanna buy a Ninja suit? I'll throw in a couple of stars and an almost unused pair of nun-chucks?
 
I asked the doctor before my vasectomy if I cold have a tattoo artist present to black out half my sack so I cold have a tactical testicle.....he wouldnt have it though :(
 
spketch said:
The marketing term gets pretty annoying, but the quality of some "tactical gear" is great.

I love having all the extra pockets in my maxpedition bag and its very well built.
I also have a 5.11 "tactical" belt. Used to go through a new belt at least every year but this one has lasted probably 4 years and still going strong.

I'd rather see the term "heavy duty" on some of this stuff. At this point "tactical" may push away almost as many potential customers as it attracts.
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I have a Maxpedition shoulder bag that I use as a walk on for airplane travel for passports, medicines, cell phone and the like for seeing the sights etc on my urban travels with my wife. Works very well.
 
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