"Tactical" styled knife

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Hello all,

I am in the market hopefully soon for a new tactical knife. Let me be the first to say I don't like the term "tactical" when it comes to a knife, the style and looks of the knife that I like gets lumped in that category.

My requirements:

Heavy knife. I have a Gerber F.A.S.T. 06. I have handled a few kershaws and some cheap smith and wessons and they just feel light compared to the Gerber. I am a big guy and like a heavy knife. Lightweight may not always mean cheap or poor quality, but it feels like it to me.

Assisted opening. Must have. I like it and even with a smooth thumb opening manual I like spring assist better. I do a lot of activities that I need to open the knife with one hand and its much easier doing it without having to move my entire hand or without worrying about it not opening all the way with a manual thumb stud. Must be spring assist and that must be a stout spring assist. The gerber's spring is a bit weak compared with others.

Color must be black. Not only do I like black knives for the looks, I wear either dark blue or black pants for work. I don't want it to stick out like a sore thumb.

Blade style, I like tanto. Not only will this be my edc, but it will be, while at work and just out and about, my only piece of self defense past my hands. I work in a secured facility that does not allow firearms, even from carry permit holders. We are not even allowed to have them in our cars, so when on the road to and from work and at work this knife will be all I have past what I have in my bag. I don't anticipate any problems at my work, but you never know. I also work about 3 blocks from a very shady part of town. Some late nights lend themselves to robberies in the area and I want something that can be in hand at a moments notice. So on to my next requirement...

Steel. I would like something that is a good steel that retains edge but also has some strength to it. The Gerber I have seems like it needs to be sharpened way too much. It is greatly noted to have a mystery steel, and from what I can tell it must not be that good.

Grip. It must have some good grip. I have recently bought a cold steel GI tanto and the handle on it is horrible. I tried to paracord wrap it and that only helped a little. I ended up wrapping it with tennis racket grip tape. That works very well. I don't need it to be that sticky, but I do want something that isn't plastic. The g10 I have handled on various knives seems to be acceptable.

Size. Blade 4" or shorter. Handle about the same. I am a big guy at 6'4 and about 280 lbs so I can handle a big knife.

Price. This is not something I am in a huge rush to get. I work in a government job that isn't that high of a salary so I don't want to spend over $200 if at all possible. Unlike a lot of people on this forum I will have to work a bit of overtime to convince the wife of spending that much on a knife.

Also I would rather it have a side safety. The Gerber I have is very easy to open as well as close one handed without much chance of cutting fingers while closing. I like being able to close one handed also.

I do like zero tolerance knives, but am not opposed to something else.
 
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I wouldn't use a Gerber F.A.S.T (or almost any Gerber) as a quality standard to compare other knives to, but that's just me.

Let's see, you want an assisted opening folder with a black tanto blade (actually, for it to blend in with your trousers you just need the pocket clip and handle to be black), with a blade length under 4".

A couple that come to mind are the Kershaw Tactical Blur (Blurs are awesome knives, I've got an S30V model and love it), Benchmade Barrage (AXIS assisted knives rock!)

I know you said it had to be AO, but if fast deployment is what you're looking for you ought to check out an Emerson Super CQC-7 (or any other of their waved tantos). Nothing is faster to open than a wave equipped folder.
 
Drop the coin on an Emerson. They are pretty much perfect for what you want.

I would skip the tanto as just about any blade shape is fine for SD use. A good spear or drop point will be all the same in SD but better in EDC.

Plus, you can get some big Emersons. They are pricey, but built to last. My next choice would be a ZT0561. They fly open because of bearings. They are AO fast with none of the downsides.
 
The majority of those requirements you stated/requested make it seem as if you are really wanting a "mall ninja" style knife. I think a Dork Ops or a Mantis knife would suit you well.
 
you dont like zero tolerence knives! what! why!

has to be one of my favorite production brands
 
You pretty much described the CRKT folding Hissatsu.
 
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My ZT 550 doesn't need any wrist action, so maybe all the manuals you have had just suck. Benchmade might have some stuff you want. I'm also gonna tell my opinions on tantos: I hate them. They are not good at cutting tasks, which is what you will eventually end up using your knife for the most. The only advantage a tanto gives in penetration will be for piercing body armor, so there is really no reason to get it unless you are in combat and stabbing people wearing body armor. Just my opinion, which probably will not change your mind
 
How about the Kershaw tremor? Big, blade length 3.75, comes in black handle, but not tanto. Price around $25. The blade steel is more than adequate without being a "super" steel.

Blessings,

Omar
 
I wouldn't use a Gerber F.A.S.T (or almost any Gerber) as a quality standard to compare other knives to, but that's just me.

Let's see, you want an assisted opening folder with a black tanto blade (actually, for it to blend in with your trousers you just need the pocket clip and handle to be black), with a blade length under 4".

A couple that come to mind are the Kershaw Tactical Blur (Blurs are awesome knives, I've got an S30V model and love it), Benchmade Barrage (AXIS assisted knives rock!)

I know you said it had to be AO, but if fast deployment is what you're looking for you ought to check out an Emerson Super CQC-7 (or any other of their waved tantos). Nothing is faster to open than a wave equipped folder.

I will check out the blur.

The gerber i have has done me well. Have had it for over a year and have had it in my pocket everyday. No trouble cutting. The tanto isnt bothersome at all except slightly for sharpening. In fact if it had better steel and a better spring i wouldn't be asking about a new knife.





Drop the coin on an Emerson. They are pretty much perfect for what you want.

I would skip the tanto as just about any blade shape is fine for SD use. A good spear or drop point will be all the same in SD but better in EDC.

Plus, you can get some big Emersons. They are pricey, but built to last. My next choice would be a ZT0561. They fly open because of bearings. They are AO fast with none of the downsides.




I am still relatively new to the knife game as far as some of the non big box store companies. I will look into an emerson as well as the zt 561.


The majority of those requirements you stated/requested make it seem as if you are really wanting a "mall ninja" style knife. I think a Dork Ops or a Mantis knife would suit you well.




Mall ninja? Sounds like a winner. Can they scare little girls?


you dont like zero tolerence knives! what! why!

has to be one of my favorite production brands


Misread. I DO like zero tolerance.




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My ZT 550 doesn't need any wrist action, so maybe all the manuals you have had just suck. Benchmade might have some stuff you want. I'm also gonna tell my opinions on tantos: I hate them. They are not good at cutting tasks, which is what you will eventually end up using your knife for the most. The only advantage a tanto gives in penetration will be for piercing body armor, so there is really no reason to get it unless you are in combat and stabbing people wearing body armor. Just my opinion, which probably will not change your mind


I do accept opinions on tantos, but the tasks I have to deal with aren't intensive in a "I have to skin a deer with what I have in my pocket" type way. I cut wires, open packages, I even used mine to dig out a second base post hole that had got filled up with mud at my sons game a few days ago. The tanto has never been a drawback for me and I have owned standard blade knives exclusively before the Gerber.

Plus I like the look of a tanto blade. Some people like the looks of an ivory handled knife with etchings in the blade. I like black knives with tanto blades. If I find one without the tanto that I like I am not against buying it.




How about the Kershaw tremor? Big, blade length 3.75, comes in black handle, but not tanto. Price around $25. The blade steel is more than adequate without being a "super" steel.

Blessings,

Omar

Definitely like the price. I will have a look at that too.
 
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I wouldn't use a Gerber F.A.S.T (or almost any Gerber) as a quality standard to compare other knives to, but that's just me.

Let's see, you want an assisted opening folder with a black tanto blade (actually, for it to blend in with your trousers you just need the pocket clip and handle to be black), with a blade length under 4".

A couple that come to mind are the Kershaw Tactical Blur (Blurs are awesome knives, I've got an S30V model and love it), Benchmade Barrage (AXIS assisted knives rock!)

I know you said it had to be AO, but if fast deployment is what you're looking for you ought to check out an Emerson Super CQC-7 (or any other of their waved tantos). Nothing is faster to open than a wave equipped folder.

I don't know what I was thinking. I owned a blur for a while and had a couple weeks to compare it to the Gerber. I got it used and it was in good and used condition. I liked the AO on it a lot. It was very swift. It didn't have a side safety on it though and that along with the look and feel of it I decided on keeping the Gerber. Not saying it was a bad knife, just wasn't the knife for me so I sold it to a friend for $20. I also liked the grip on the handle, but not how it fit in my hand.
 
i have no idea how to help you. I can not find a knife that's fills all your requirements. Have you checked out cold steel knives?
 
Benchmade Adamas. It's not a tanto, but has a great point that is strong and can penetrate what you need it to.

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I like to replace the term "Tactical" with "Utility" which to me, is what most of these types of knives excel at. (cutting plastic straps/heavy cardboard etc.) I get why a lot of folks dislike tanto blades, but they cover any edc task That I require.
 
Aside from the Hissatsu, I would strongly suggest the CRKT Otanashi noh Ken, which is a larger, yet non-spring assisted Japanese tanto style of knife.

I know that assisted opening was a requirement of yours, but I think it's important to have a long knife in SD scenarios.

Here is a picture of it in hand...

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As well, a picture of the Hissatsu. You may decide that the difference in blade length doesn't quite justify the lack of an assist, which I understand.

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Zero tolerance is amazing, I have a 0200 ( it's manual) but they have assited knives. They're built like tanks in the USA and have a great warranty.
 
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