Talon Hole Use

SpookyPistolero said:
Just like grammar and spelling, right? You guys stay classy. :thumbup:
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Please , Krawl bak into the hole ya kame frum.. you r onlin e presence makes me p u k e .. . seriously .. b gone . troll




Classy ... hey baby .. I'm classy 24/7 :p:p:p Your kind does not deserve a Busse talon hole in "it's" presence

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One thing that may come into play here, I'm not a patent specialist or lawyer or knifemaker, just someone incredibly smart and modest...

The fact that its a "talon" hole, and the way it is on most busses is that there a peninsula jutting from the knife in which the hole is placed, or a talon.

On the knife in question its just a hole in the actual guard of the knife without the talon part?
 
sirahren said:
One thing that may come into play here, I'm not a patent specialist or lawyer or knifemaker, just someone incredibly smart and modest...

The fact that its a "talon" hole, and the way it is on most busses is that there a peninsula jutting from the knife in which the hole is placed, or a talon.

On the knife in question its just a hole in the actual guard of the knife without the talon part?
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Then what about the SAR-5? would that not have a Talon hole then? this is a serious question as I am just trying to get more insite onto what would "qualify" as a "talon hole" and not merley a hole in a blade.
 
barrabas74 said:
Then what about the SAR-5? would that not have a Talon hole then? this is a serious question as I am just trying to get more insite onto what would "qualify" as a "talon hole" and not merley a hole in a blade.
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I didnt get one of those so it doesnt count as a real Busse. =)

Like I said I have no idea. Maybe thats not whats trade marked though?

I mean just becuase Coca Cola is trade marked doesnt mean just Cola is?

So it could be that some types of Busse Holes are TMed and others arent...?

I'm all for Trade Marks and the Talon Hole being TMed, I'm just throwing out uninformed (but logical I think) conjecture.
 
barrabas74 said:
Then what about the SAR-5? would that not have a Talon hole then? this is a serious question as I am just trying to get more insite onto what would "qualify" as a "talon hole" and not merley a hole in a blade.
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The NICK's also come to mind. I believe Jerry would be the one to contact in regards to the technicalities of the trademark. :thumbup:
 
Let's keep this discussion civil and stop any bickering about grammar or class. If I see it after this public warning I will give infractions.

As far as the talon hole goes Jerry would be the one to contact about it. He can be contacted at 419 923 6471.


Eric
 
Eric Isaacson "THE BULLY";6097843 said:
Let's keep this discussion civil and stop any bickering about grammar or class. If I see it after this public warning I will give infractions.

As far as the talon hole goes Jerry would be the one to contact about it. He can be contacted at 419 923 6471.
Eric
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and believe me... when the "bully porkerson" is sober he'll dump about fifty gallons of woopass infractions on you :thumbup: :thumbup:

hey eric, did you get that free ak i sent to you?


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SpookyPistolero said:
Just guaranteed I'll never be buying a Busse. :thumbup:
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Spooky do you own any Spyderco knives, because if you do, you should sell them. Spyderco has gone after others that have used the Spydie hole without permission. . It is also why Spyderco is putting holes on their fixed blades. Benchmade had an agreement at one point to use that "hole".

It's funny, I never for a second thought "I would never buy a knife from CR" (or any other company that innocently infringed on another's trademark) because he used the "hole". It seems it was the request of a customer. I don't think that is a problem, it becomes one if he tries to use it as a standard feature.

I really didn't start this to stir the proverbial "pot". I pointed it out because it's fact. What if CR knives produced a bunch of them only to get a call from a lawyer telling him to stop the sale of all "holy knives" - :D. People like you would have done him a disservice letting him think it's "ok 'cause we like you and the knife".
 
Coupchoux said:
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Actually it would have been really silly for that guy to get a trademark on the hole. He would have been served much better by getting a patent on the wheel. The wheel is used in so many different forms he would have been much better served by a patent and then licensing the use to others ;)
 
I don't know what holes you guys are talking about :yawn:, doesn't it just awfully looks like old SH SH :confused:

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it not just about the talon hole.....i am not a knife maker or designer but who ever design the other blade must think like this: " oh he has three holes on the handle, then i'll just put two; oh he has the choil, i'll just take that out. then **BOOM** i just design my blade!!". Seriously, do what you like...You might be able to get away with trade mark issue, but as a designer you will always know your design is not original.

It is just another Busse "Inspired" blade.
 
wuyeah said:
I don't know what holes you guys are talking about :yawn:, doesn't it just awfully looks like old SH SH :confused:

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it not just about the talon hole.....i am not a knife maker or designer but who ever design the other blade must think like this: " oh he has three holes on the handle, then i'll just put two; oh he has the choil, i'll just take that out. then **BOOM** i just design my blade!!". Seriously, do what you like...You might be able to get away with trade mark issue, but as a designer you will always know your design is not original.

It is just another Busse "Inspired" blade.
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I know mark, and his blade was not Busse inspired. It was designed by a couple military guys for specific use for a aircraft survival type knife. The use of the hole is not anything more then coincidental.....

If you ask me, thats how I view most Busse blades. They all look alot alike to me.....
 
Wuyeah, it is possible that the Busse was the inspiration for the knife that started all of this ruckus. I'd say it's also possible that the knife in question could have been created on it's own. The maker has probably seen the Busse knives but may not have thought about them while making this one. Often a customer will request a feature on a knife and the maker may not realize it is something like the trademarked "talon hole".

I make a knife with a similar blade shape to many of the Busse knives but I don't think I took the idea from them specifically. I'd say that this particular blade shape, along with most others, has been around for a long time.

The Busse lineup is impressive and the company does an incredible job of marketing a great knife. That doesn't however mean that if anyone ever makes a knife with a similar feature that they stole the design idea. Now seeing something like this on one of those Chinese knockoff knife sites would be a different story. I don't think those guys have ever had an original idea.

Here is the blade I've been making for awhile. Not nearly as long as the Busse lineup but when I designed this knife I wasn't trying to copy anything I'd seen. Just making a knife that I thought would work for it's intended purposes.

Thanks for letting me chime in here.
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