Tang construction, Gil Hibben tundra bushcraft knife

Re-Reading the thread and thinking it over . ..and setting aside the deception of the fake full tang, how is this construction less strong than a hidden tang design? Hidden tang= one weld. Fake full tang=two welds ???

Untold numbers of knives have been made using a thin-ish tang welded to a stub from the blade without it being viewed as a problem. Randall Made sand many others offer only knaves designed with a hidden tang and have great reputations.

Historically, the hidden tang has been the norm in knife/sword construction.

Maybe I am over-thinking this.
 
Well #1, many quality hidden tangs are not welded at all. The construction provides the strength and structural Integrity they need. B, the ones that are welded, that are done properly, are done prior to heat treat, as there are metallurgical issues that take place that would probably bore most people in this thread.

Third, that tang is just spot welded to that handle frame on the knife in this thread. That is nowhere near the same as a proper mechanical joint that is then fully welded in place correctly. The two things you're talking about are worlds apart.

The way this knife is built is very poor, that's just the way that it is. No disrespect, but those tack welds are a joke and that thing is just asking to fall apart during medium to hard use. May get lucky and it holds up, but that is just not a good design for a bushcraft knife.

Sam⚔️⚔️

VorpelSword said:
Re-Reading the thread and thinking it over . ..and setting aside the deception of the fake full tang, how is this construction less strong than a hidden tang design? Hidden tang= one weld. Fake full tang=two welds ???

Untold numbers of knives have been made using a thin-ish tang welded to a stub from the blade without it being viewed as a problem. Randall Made sand many others offer only knaves designed with a hidden tang and have great reputations.

Historically, the hidden tang has been the norm in knife/sword construction.

Maybe I am over-thinking this.
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VorpelSword said:
Re-Reading the thread and thinking it over . ..and setting aside the deception of the fake full tang, how is this construction less strong than a hidden tang design? Hidden tang= one weld. Fake full tang=two welds ???

Untold numbers of knives have been made using a thin-ish tang welded to a stub from the blade without it being viewed as a problem. Randall Made sand many others offer only knaves designed with a hidden tang and have great reputations.

Historically, the hidden tang has been the norm in knife/sword construction.

Maybe I am over-thinking this.
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Yes and no. I think someone mentioned, the pins are going to be doing a lot of the durability work here. The fact that it isn't claiming to be a full tang build doesn't take anything away from it. That it is called a bushcraft knife kinda sets some expectations on its use parameters that it may not live up to. Or, it may. Only time will tell if you can get $50 worth of bushcrafting out of this knife. You could coax a lot of good use from the blade for a great many cutting tasks without ever having it come apart on you.

If you try, you can break anything. On the other hand, there are specimens of mass-produced junk that hold up astonishingly well for their price. I think it's telling that the Amazon listing says hand wash only. I would have low expectations as well as a backup, personally. But of all the UC Hibbens I own, not one is a user.
 
No disrespect but trying to make anything out of that knife is just polishing the turd...

Investing time and resources into that garbage will only make your losses bigger.

Either make peace with your loss and do a garbage toss, or use it as it is - a wall hanger.
 
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