Team Gemini Light Brigade Differences

zombieassassin said:
Hmmmmm? That is a considerable difference if you ask me. That's a 3+ oz difference. I wonder if the heavier one's handles weren't milled?
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That was my exact thought.


ExtraBaconPlease said:
The difference would be in the hollow grind and fuller differences. All the handles have the LB treatment.
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I completely understand minor variances. However, 3oz seems like more than a minor variance. When I hold them they seem like TOTALLY different knives.
 
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I have had a few and just by looking at your pictures you can tell the grey one is ground a lot leaner than the black one. Look at the differences in how much deeper the grind is in the choil. The thin ground ones are great cutters.
 
Ndocyk said:
I have had a few and just by looking at your pictures you can tell the grey one is ground a lot leaner than the black one. Look at the differences in how much deeper the grind is in the choil. The thin ground ones are great cutters.
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I didn't think the blade would be ground that much thinner than the others to make it weight 3oz less. I noticed the differences in the edge width as well. The thicker black blade has a much wider edge, which is on account of the thickness I'm guessing.
 
Cheesehead_Slasher said:
I completely understand minor variances. However, 3oz seems like more than a minor variance. When I hold them they seem like TOTALLY different knives.
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If it is not the grind and fuller that I mentioned then what else could it be? Are you actually suggesting that one of the handles are not milled/given the Light Brigade treatment? ...
 
"You know what they say. 'There are two kinds of countries. Those that have been to the moon, and those that use the metric system". Haha!"

LMAO! Good One!

From an Engineer no less!
 
ExtraBaconPlease said:
If it is not the grind and fuller that I mentioned then what else could it be? Are you actually suggesting that one of the handles are not milled/given the Light Brigade treatment? ...
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What I'm saying is that one knife is 3.2oz lighter than the other. When I first held the knives I was stunned to feel the weight differences. Considering they are both TGLB with G-10 handles they should be relatively close in weight. I wouldn't question + 1 oz. However, 3.2oz seems like a large variance. My initial thought was that the handle was not milled out. The LB treatment reduces the knife by roughly 6 oz so that would't be too far off.

Nonetheless, I am surprised to see such differences between identical knives. If you look at it this way, the black/orange knife is 22.07% heavier than the grey/blue knife.
 
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Cheesehead_Slasher said:
What I'm saying is that one knife is 3.2oz lighter than the other. When I first held the knives I was stunned to feel the weight differences. Considering they are both TGLB with G-10 handles they should be relatively close in weight. I wouldn't question + 1 oz. However, 3.2oz seems like a large variance. My initial thought was that the handle was not milled out. The LB treatment reduces the knife by roughly 6 oz so that would't be too far off.


Nonetheless, I am surprised to see such differences between identical knives. If you look at it this way, the black/orange knife is 22.07% heavier than the grey/blue knife.
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It almost seems like one is a tglb and the other is a tg. Were both purchased at the same time?
 
Cheesehead_Slasher said:
What I'm saying is that one knife is 3.2oz lighter than the other. When I first held the knives I was stunned to feel the weight differences. Considering they are both TGLB with G-10 handles they should be relatively close in weight. I wouldn't question + 1 oz. However, 3.2oz seems like a large variance. My initial thought was that the handle was not milled out. The LB treatment reduces the knife by roughly 6 oz so that would't be too far off.

Nonetheless, I am surprised to see such differences between identical knives. If you look at it this way, the black/orange knife is 22.07% heavier than the grey/blue knife.
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That's because it is a large variance. Flick through this thread from the start and look at the differences I mention. The hollow grind and the fuller. That is what makes up the difference. Both knives have the Light Brigade treatment.
 
Please show a better photo of the orange handled Gemini so I can tell if it is a Light Brigade or not. Need to see if there is a grind line from the fuller towards the tip to the spine. If there is, it's a Light Brigade.
 
I've read through this threat from start to finish before I posted. Due to the pervasive inconsistencies I decided to post my question about the weight differences in hopes of finding some answers.

You can see the grind from the fuller to the tip in these pictures. I never questioned whether or not the blade received the LB treatment.

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I think the black crinkle coat weighs more or at least clings to the blades thicker than does the tanker grey making the black coated blades weigh slightly more than the tanker grey coated ones. Anybody have the weight of a TGLB CF for comparison? This is getting very interesting to me!
 
I had to weigh a few of mine before I found a lighter one than your Tanker/blue-black g-10 combo, Cheesehead_Slasher. Check it...14.28oz... However, mine is a Competition Finish TGLB, with hand shaped tan canvas handles, which oughta be considerably lighter than your G-10 handles, never mind having no coating weight. :eek:
I also weighed my original Team G, which was purchased at the booth @ Blade 2010. It is 20oz (+/- .004oz, the scale had a hard time deciding. lol).

With other TGLB's of mine weighing in over 15oz, also 16oz, I think the oddity is your lighter one, not so much the heavy one. :)
 
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Weighed some of mine now. I do think it is fuller and also grind variances that make the biggest differences. All of mine are black or bruiser g10. Check it:
TGLB-17.0oz
TGLB-16.5oz
TGLB-14.6oz

TG14-21.3oz
TG14-20.8oz

TGM-17.6oz
TGM-17.4oz

I remember thinking the TGMs were so much heavier for their size but I was so used to the TGLBs at that point. I really do hope Busse puts out TGMs in the future that have the light brigade treatment just like they did w the original TG. That would be sweeet!!
 
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