Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.... You'll see more of it as you get older. But I'll give credit where it's due, your teacher realized she was acting like an idiot and decided not to continue.
-
The BladeForums.com 2024 Traditional Knife is available! Price is $250 ea (shipped within CONUS).
Order here: https://www.bladeforums.com/help/2024-traditional/
Teens cant have Knives?
- Thread starter moonshine47
- Start date
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.... You'll see more of it as you get older. But I'll give credit where it's due, your teacher realized she was acting like an idiot and decided not to continue.
- Joined
- Mar 13, 2006
- Messages
- 850
even at 27 years old in my own business I will at least pretend to open my knife with both hands in front of customers. I always carry a large folder, usually an auto, but I open it slowly with both hands to keep the "OMG I"M GOING TO DIE" looks down. I forgot a few times and busted out a MT socom elite and people always take a step back. It's not good for business. Case and point why I don't carry the halo, I can't even pretend to open it with both hands and it looks too mean. lol.
- Joined
- Nov 19, 2004
- Messages
- 1,787
Congrats Jr. welcome to Sheeple,now you know why they make SAK's.
when i was your age all of us carried everyday to strip wire or whatever in shop...and that included the girls.
when i was your age all of us carried everyday to strip wire or whatever in shop...and that included the girls.
- Joined
- Aug 10, 2006
- Messages
- 7,250
School is beyond ridiculous in this country. You can get expelled for drawing a picture of a knife these days, or simply writing down a list of names.
I wouldn't last 10 minutes if I had to go back to high-school now. It's like a prison that everyone has to go to learn how to behave, instead of a place to learn academics. They barely teach those in college now. Do you know how easy college is these days? All you have to do is show up for classes and pay your tuition, and you're through. I graduated with honors and barely broke a sweat in undergrad. It was too, too easy. And that was ten years ago. My understanding is that it's even easier now. In business classes, it's an understanding that everyone is going to cheat. Which prepares students for their future of lying and cheating to get ahead. We are raising and educating a nation of weaselly, self-entitled fools that are wimps to boot. So much for a strong America.
I carried a pocket knife every day all the way through most of elementary school and from then on, and never thought anything of it. I'm so glad I'm not a kid today. I'm reluctant to have kids of my own because the education system I'd have to put them through disgusts me.
I wouldn't last 10 minutes if I had to go back to high-school now. It's like a prison that everyone has to go to learn how to behave, instead of a place to learn academics. They barely teach those in college now. Do you know how easy college is these days? All you have to do is show up for classes and pay your tuition, and you're through. I graduated with honors and barely broke a sweat in undergrad. It was too, too easy. And that was ten years ago. My understanding is that it's even easier now. In business classes, it's an understanding that everyone is going to cheat. Which prepares students for their future of lying and cheating to get ahead. We are raising and educating a nation of weaselly, self-entitled fools that are wimps to boot. So much for a strong America.
I carried a pocket knife every day all the way through most of elementary school and from then on, and never thought anything of it. I'm so glad I'm not a kid today. I'm reluctant to have kids of my own because the education system I'd have to put them through disgusts me.
- Joined
- Jan 8, 2007
- Messages
- 280
"do you know how easy college is these days?"
A large generalization, possibly true as a whole compared to years past, but nevertheless, I invite you to sit in on my full courseload of Cadaver Anatomy, Organic Chemistry, Physics and Calculus and tell me you won't break a sweat. Human Phys. majors at my university are a little more academically inclined than the majority of the Business majors.
A large generalization, possibly true as a whole compared to years past, but nevertheless, I invite you to sit in on my full courseload of Cadaver Anatomy, Organic Chemistry, Physics and Calculus and tell me you won't break a sweat. Human Phys. majors at my university are a little more academically inclined than the majority of the Business majors.
- Joined
- May 11, 2005
- Messages
- 40
I have to agree with dangerouscold on this one. It may be that business classes are easy, but my engineering courses were harder than hell! Any program that has enough work to keep you on campus studying for sixteen to eighteen hours a day for a year and half is definitely not "easy."
On the main topic, I carried a knife practically every day since I got my first SAK from my dad in elementary school. Particularly in high school, I used it often to strip and cut wire, cut carpet, things of that nature. Teachers knew I had it, and some of them even had their own in their desks. Admittedly, I'm pretty sure both I and the teachers were breaking the rules, but like others have said, don't be flashly, use it as a tool, and in most cases, you'll be fine.
(I went to high school in an area that was pretty flexible about the rules anyway. No way I would ever carry if I went to high school where I live now.)
On the main topic, I carried a knife practically every day since I got my first SAK from my dad in elementary school. Particularly in high school, I used it often to strip and cut wire, cut carpet, things of that nature. Teachers knew I had it, and some of them even had their own in their desks. Admittedly, I'm pretty sure both I and the teachers were breaking the rules, but like others have said, don't be flashly, use it as a tool, and in most cases, you'll be fine.
(I went to high school in an area that was pretty flexible about the rules anyway. No way I would ever carry if I went to high school where I live now.)
:barf: :barf: :barf: blasphemy:thumbdn: :grumpy: Listen here kiddies granpas got a story ta tell ya. Bak in ma day we
had dis thing called a nife n' we used to cut our own food wit it.
- Joined
- Aug 10, 2006
- Messages
- 7,250
I wasn't a business major. I was a double major in History and Studio Art. And I had a science minor. So I did take several chemistry as well as physics classes. They were all easier than they could have, and should have been. And don't try to say that Studio Art is not a difficult major, because I was on campus 16 hours a day at least during the week, working in my studio. Because I enjoyed it and I wanted to be there. I pushed myself. But the coursework in my academic classes was easy. Not that I was complaining at the time. I partied it up and it was fun. I suppose my education was sufficient, I'm doing all right for myself. But it could have been better. Especially in public school. What a waste of time.
I didn't mean to downplay anyone's education, certainly there are programs that are challenging, as well there should be. Perhaps I was generalizing my personal experience too much. I just feel like, in general, students are not challenged as much as they should be. This whole culture of "high self esteem" is counter-productive. Kids should be made to feel like they don't know anything, because they don't. They should be made to feel insignificant so they are motivated to improve themselves. Instead, we tell them that they are all precious, unique snowflakes, and will all grow up to be millionaires. Which of course is impossible. What's going to happen when all of these kids get out of college and realize that, for the most part, they will have to work boring jobs for crap money?
Thank god in college I haven't had any problems.
I was sitting down at work (tutoring center at my school) in a meeting, we all got bored and my co-worker/the manager sees my PMillie clipped to my pocket. She pulls it out to see what it was, looks at me, "oh" ::nods and that was it. (probably helped that during my job interview I told her I work at an army navy store)
I was sitting down at work (tutoring center at my school) in a meeting, we all got bored and my co-worker/the manager sees my PMillie clipped to my pocket. She pulls it out to see what it was, looks at me, "oh" ::nods and that was it. (probably helped that during my job interview I told her I work at an army navy store)
- Joined
- Jan 8, 2007
- Messages
- 280
"This whole culture of 'high self esteem' is counter-productive. Kids should be made to feel like they don't know anything, because they don't."
Agree with you there. I wish higher level education required brainpower more than hard work, but now that a high percentage of good jobs expect a college degree, the masses need their dumbass kids to get a degree too. Back in my high school if a student didn't want to write an essay about a book, they could do an art project, or write a song. Course, this is Oregon...
Agree with you there. I wish higher level education required brainpower more than hard work, but now that a high percentage of good jobs expect a college degree, the masses need their dumbass kids to get a degree too. Back in my high school if a student didn't want to write an essay about a book, they could do an art project, or write a song. Course, this is Oregon...
thats why im glad that (at least here in va) you can take a 3ish inch folder in you pocket almost any where legaly... and carry pretty much anything exposed most places
-matt
oh i get it, people would rather buy presliced food packaged in all that plastic made from petroleum (read OIL) instead of using a knife to cut it themselves. :grumpy:
:thumbdn:And it's probably called a "freshness pack" even though there may be harmful effects from the plastic..
- Joined
- Sep 2, 2006
- Messages
- 163
There are a lot of knuckleheads in the world, and young knuckleheads are plentiful. Just ride it out and someday you will be free to carry a knife of your choosing anywhere you want! Except your job, restaurants, the store, the movies, public places...
I guess I was lucky. I went to private school in the good ol' southern USA. We had a speech class assignment to demonstrate how to do something, and one of my classmates brought a Mossberg shotgun and broke it down and cleaned it for the class. He got an A, but most of us already knew how.
I guess I was lucky. I went to private school in the good ol' southern USA. We had a speech class assignment to demonstrate how to do something, and one of my classmates brought a Mossberg shotgun and broke it down and cleaned it for the class. He got an A, but most of us already knew how.
- Joined
- Nov 15, 2006
- Messages
- 4,837
I went to public school in california on the "bad" side of town. Class of 04, but i got too fed up with it and tested out in 03. Anyway, Yeah califonia schools in paticular are pretty bad. One time i left a pocket knife in my backpack from camping the weekend before. I got searched because i gave a girl with pms an advil. Somehow the cop didnt see my knife or my zippo.
Another time i was almost suspended for wearing a shirt with a diagram (exploded view) of an M-14 on it. They ended up making me turn my shirt inside out and agree never to wear it to school again. Not even a picture of a gun, a picture of gun parts. Beer shirts are ok tho. Who knows?
I took an nightclass (small engine repair), where the teacher didnt care if we carried knives since we had to bring out own tools anyway. I had my knife on me and i got into a fist fight with another kid, didnt even cross my mind to use my knife as a weapon.
Sadly, there was a murder at my school the year before i went there. A couple of guys ganged up on another guy and beat him to death with hammers from woodshop. Nasty stuff right there.
Another time a friend of mine tried to attack a supervisor with a switch balde, He got expelled and arrested of course.
AND, at my school nobody except the cops could have anything resembling a weapon on campus. Not teachers, not students, not parents, nobody. No tobacco products at all either. Its pure madness
But yeah, just stick it out and eventually you'll be free. Apparently you dont have any rights until you graduate highschool.
Another time i was almost suspended for wearing a shirt with a diagram (exploded view) of an M-14 on it. They ended up making me turn my shirt inside out and agree never to wear it to school again. Not even a picture of a gun, a picture of gun parts. Beer shirts are ok tho. Who knows?
I took an nightclass (small engine repair), where the teacher didnt care if we carried knives since we had to bring out own tools anyway. I had my knife on me and i got into a fist fight with another kid, didnt even cross my mind to use my knife as a weapon.
Sadly, there was a murder at my school the year before i went there. A couple of guys ganged up on another guy and beat him to death with hammers from woodshop. Nasty stuff right there.
Another time a friend of mine tried to attack a supervisor with a switch balde, He got expelled and arrested of course.
AND, at my school nobody except the cops could have anything resembling a weapon on campus. Not teachers, not students, not parents, nobody. No tobacco products at all either. Its pure madness
But yeah, just stick it out and eventually you'll be free. Apparently you dont have any rights until you graduate highschool.
- Joined
- Jun 7, 2003
- Messages
- 1,850
This is something I dont get .. Im not picking on the person who posted it , Ive read a few times where folk just pull out the knives worn by others ..
how does this happen ? is it OK to do this where you guys are ?
I carry a knife on my belt , often clipped in my pockets , but *NO-ONE* touches it without they ask , and I hand it to them .
its kind of customary here where I am at least that if youre going to touch a guys knife car or woman , you be polite about it , or you do it when he dont know about it , but just grabbing a knife like that ... its asking for trouble isnt it ?
As a teacher (high school Latin) I have seen a lot of the things you describe up close and I feel deeply frustrated by it. However, take heart in the fact that there still are handfuls of educators and, more importantly, students who value academic rigor and resist the watered-down nonsense that you describe. Such an intellectually flabby approach to education cannot sustain itself indefinitely.
As recently as two years ago I've seen some rural farm kids wearing a Leatherman or Buck 110 on their belts at school without getting a second glance, but not anymore. I just pulled out my Leatherman Wave from my bag to fix a kid's glasses on Thursday.
Allan Molstad
Banned
- Joined
- Feb 1, 2007
- Messages
- 901
I have no idea what laws are in effect for Canada.
Here you would more than likely get in a lot of trouble, infact if the teacher saw you had a knife , or even just heard you carry one, the teacher has to call the cops, if the teacher does not then both the teacher and the school is in a lot of trouble.
To be caught with a knife is a big deal , you could expect to miss a lot of school, perhaps not be able to return with your class...Could mean going to summer school to catch up with your class.
You mom and dad would need to also attend some meetings, so the loss of income is going to be felt too...
This all has happend a few times around here.
What normally happens is the cops arrest the child, there is a search of the locker.
If a car is parked on school land, it too has to be searched.
The child can not return to class until after the matter is handled in accord with the law.
In the two cases I know of personally, the children were kicked out of school for about 2 weeks each.
and only after lots and lots of meetings and they appeared with their parents before a judge.
Then they had to have their lawyer appeal to the school board to allow the children to return to class....