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I figured I'd ask you all a question about a trade I recently made with an individual here on the forums. I'm not going to list his name since my judgement might be clouded due to my anger at this time and we are still emailing eachother. I thought I might get a different perspective by explaining this matter to you.
I have only made about four transactions here on the forum, with only one being complete. Now except for the matter which I will refer to, I have been very happy and I trust the other individuals I have dealt with.
Recently I posted my CS Master Tanto for $155.00 or trade for an MT. The individual never posted a reply on this topic, he did however send me an email offering me a trade for an MT. I excepted, even though this MT retails for less than the CS. Thanks to all the raving about the MT's, I really wanted one.
We both decided to send the item's USPS the next day if we had time, but the agreement for the trade was set in stone in my opinion.
I did just that I paid $6.30 to mail this item. I then sent the delivery cofirmation number as agreed. The next day I receive an email from this individual, saying that he was sorry and that the MT had been taken by a family member, who abused this knife by breaking the tip and letting it rust. This was not to his knowledge. He has agreed to send the knife back with the cost of shipping to me, as he can't afford it and the only offer he had for me was a spyderco and $40.00. Which was of no interest to me. Now, I am happy that he is sending the knife back, but any time I post an item I closely examine it before I trade or sale it.
The thing that ticks me off about this whole thing is that I had a friend (dealer), who was willing to sale the same knife to me for $124.00. Even though I would have liked to keep the CS and buy this knife, I still did not accept due to the fact that I had what I thought to be a binding contract. The MT has since been sold.
This individual emailed me that he tried calling so that we may talk in person, so I don't think he is a troll. I do however strongly disagree with his method of transactions. If it was me in the same position (which it wouldn't be), but hypothetically if I did happen. I would do everything possible to make this individual happy. I sent him this same response, also explaining to him how I recently made an agreement to buy a knife with half now and half in Dec. from another individual, now if for any reason I wasn't able to pay this individual the rest. I would let him keep the payment and knife for the inconvenience I caused. This is how I do bussines and it's what I would expect in return.
I would appreciate any responses on this and I will update this topic as I conclude this matter with the individual. I do not want to list his name as his character may suprise me as we conclude the matter. I would however appeciate another perspective before I get really rude with this person. Thanks.
 
I'd stay civil on this 1. As long as you're not losing anything I'd have to say it sucks to lose the deal but you have to remember not everyone is as thoughtful of their actions as we'd hope.
 
sigsauer, as long as you get your knife back, I don't see how you can fault the other person. Stuff happens. Just my $.02.


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sigsauer, what do you want? His knife is damaged so he can't send it to you. I don't see what else he could do now. Perhaps he should've been more careful before, but I don't see what he could do now that would make any difference. As long as he sends your knife back you're not completely out anything. I'd caution him to be more careful in the future and leave it at that.

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Jason aka medusaoblongata
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"I have often laughed at the weaklings who call themselves kind because they have no claws"

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Me thinks a typical SNAFU, feces do happen!

Be mad, be pissed, but recover and be happy for no money/knives lost
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(really just wanted to cheer you up, hope it gets resolved to your liking)

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Be well!/Jonas aka 2Sharp

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I am sorry to hear that the deal went south and you lost the 6 bucks you spent on shipping. Waste of time, energy and money. I don't see a case for malicious intent, but agree that one should know the condition and whereabouts of a knife you are looking to get rid of. He could have offered to refund your shipping costs also since he was at fault for the deal falling through.
 
You are getting your knife back and being compensated for the cost of shipping. The other guy screwed up. It happens. The other guy did what he was able to do to cover his error. Relax and don't worry, be happy!

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It's a bum deal, no doubt. If the guy is really stand up, he should have refunded your initial shipping costs. That's what I would have done, since you shipped the knife in good faith. But the rest is just spilt milk.

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Hoodoo

I get some pleasure from finding a relentlessly peaceful use for a combative looking knife.
JKM
 
Sig
Let us know that you GOT the knife back though. That would be my concern now..........
Bob
 
Sig

Broken tip and rusty sounds like an excuse to me. I would have told him I would take it anyway and see what happened then.

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I once advertised a Busse Badger Attack for sale in the For Sale forum, had a buyer, then couldn't find the damn thing. Tore my house apart.

So I had to back out of the sale. I *do* agree with you, though. I, *personally*, felt so bad about it that I sent the buyer his money order back, plus a like-new Greco as compensation. Made me feel better, anyway.

OTOH, there was nothing I could do about getting the buyer the knife he really wanted. However, he did find one somewhere else, as he told me when I later emailed him that I found the Busse, and asked whether he still wanted it.

So, yeah, I make *sure* I know where the knife is, before I try to sell it
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, but, like others have said.., **** happens, and you can only do the best you can do.

[This message has been edited by Kirk D (edited 11-08-2000).]
 
A rusty MT with a broken tip is a good trade for any CS, if ya ask me. Shoulda jumped on that one.
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But seriously, stuff happens, and if you get your knife back (please let us know if you don't), you have made out better than some of the people here on the forums. Just relax and chalk this one up in the bummer column. You'll have plenty of opportunity to trade it off down the road.

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Sig,
I have to agree with the majority of the other posts, "stuff happens". As long as you get your knife back and are reimbursed for the shipping just let it go. It does sound like your buyer made a pretty lame excuse though.
I do have to commend you on your gentlemanly behavior. I recently was involved in a "deal" that was never completed. The other person involved in the deal couldn't wait to make multiple posts on multiple forums in an attempt to smear my name as well as sending me profane email. I posted one reply to his posts and decided to just let the whole thing die even though he continues. Sometimes you just have to be the better man. Sorry you had a bad experience, but you'll be happier the sooner you put it behind you.

Regards,
Clay

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Beware the fury of a patient man.
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[This message has been edited by countryboy (edited 11-08-2000).]
 
Thanks for all the replie's, after reading them I sent a new offer to him. I asked for him to sale me the broken MT at a reasonable price. I have also sent a email to MT to see how much it would cost to repair this knife as I understand they have excellent QC, I'm sure they will offer me a reasonable price.
I believe this would be a excellent way to resolve this situation as long as a good price is offered to me.
If you think I am offering a good solution I would appreciate your answers, also what do you think would be a reasonable price for him to sale me this knife.
 
Sig,
I had an experience nearly the same. I traded for a knife and right before they were to be sent the other party dropped his and broke off the tip. I was already to re-list mine or sale when the guy asked me what I wanted for it. He then immediately sent me a paypal for the price I gave him. At least it sounds like this person is making an effort and you didn't lose any steel! BTW, I have done probably 50 or more deals here and have not had any problems. I think most folks here are very trustworthy.

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Brian
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What's the best folk dance for my monkey?
 
Accept a broken and rusty MT? No way...their no point, when you can easily sell you previous knife for $125 I'm sure. Right? Good luck on getting it back...keep us updated.

-AR
 
I've got a black, plain bladed MT SOCOM (LNIB) that I paid $130 for. Has never been carried or sharpened. NO RUST! NO BROKEN TIP! It's sitting in the box in the safe.... let me know if you want it...

Michael

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Again, I thank you for the responses. I am waiting for a response to my email that I sent him, but it has only been a day. If I get my knife back, I will do what you suggest and drop the matter. I will keep you updated as to the return of my knife. He should be getting it by tomorrow.
C4, thanks for the offer, I have sent you an email.
 
My girlfriend wrote some guy that she wanted to trade the Imperial Tai Pan for the Damascus Hobbit, and by the time he replied, we had actually just found one for sale for a remarkably low price. We felt terrible telling him this, but now we wonder if he even believed us(?). In any event, I've never heard of a good knife rusting over night like that, but if it had...what's the big deal with microtech anyway??
 
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