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Temperance Passaround
- Thread starter TheBadGuy
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It has been rediscovered!
Okay, review, day one:
The Temperance arrived today and I found it as follows:
Blade-
A tiny blunting of the tip (you can see where the bit of metal is folded back on itself) and an incredibly small chip on the edge just back of that. The blade has some very faint scratches, longitudinally on both sides. Its shaving sharp along its entire length. Under an 8X loup, the bevel looks pretty good.
Handle-
It's clean as a whistle, no blemishes that I can see, though I admit that to me it looks like it was crafted from the steering wheel of an '88 Honda Accord. And, in a bit of weirdness, in the third indexing-dimple there's a logo of some kind. It looks like it could be an "S A L" maybe Sal's signature, as this is an in-house design? Anyone else notice this, I don't think I've read it mentioned before? The weird part is the font, the "s" is "KISS" style (the band, not "keep it simple...") or worse, "SS" style, seems an odd choice. Anyway, no biggie.
Sheath-
Looks good. Cosmetically it's fine, no scratches or the like. Retention wise it's seems perfect too. I tried a couple of shake tests trying to get the knife to fall out. One like throwing a dart and the other twisting, like quickly turning a combination lock. Solid, no problems at all. I switched it so I could carry on my right hip.
Function-
Today was mostly kitchen work. It did lettuce, tomato, onion and steak, plus all the associated packaging. No great challenges here, and no surprises. It cuts well, fast and straight. The shape is good for this work, as you would expect and the blade has good weight to it, so it makes a fine chopper.
I carried it around all day, didn't even notice it was there. It goes in and out of the sheath easily. -Also did a little play-around indexing, but to be sure, I'm no MBC guy. The thumb groove at the base of the handle is awesome though. In a reverse grip it really adds a feeling of security. A person could get carried away and think I'm ( I mean "he's") Jet Li or somebody.
Anyway, today was a relief day. Tomorrow's back to work and the Temperance will ride along. Good Lord willin' and the crick don't rise it'll be quiet, but you never know. It'll be the first day in a couple of years that I won't have my Military with me, but I'm going to leave it home so the Temperance is the no-choice matter-separator of the day. I'm going to miss the Military even for the day, but they're very similar in size when layed next to eachother, and I trust Sal, so I guess we'll see how the other half (fixed-bladers) live.
The Temperance arrived today and I found it as follows:
Blade-
A tiny blunting of the tip (you can see where the bit of metal is folded back on itself) and an incredibly small chip on the edge just back of that. The blade has some very faint scratches, longitudinally on both sides. Its shaving sharp along its entire length. Under an 8X loup, the bevel looks pretty good.
Handle-
It's clean as a whistle, no blemishes that I can see, though I admit that to me it looks like it was crafted from the steering wheel of an '88 Honda Accord. And, in a bit of weirdness, in the third indexing-dimple there's a logo of some kind. It looks like it could be an "S A L" maybe Sal's signature, as this is an in-house design? Anyone else notice this, I don't think I've read it mentioned before? The weird part is the font, the "s" is "KISS" style (the band, not "keep it simple...") or worse, "SS" style, seems an odd choice. Anyway, no biggie.
Sheath-
Looks good. Cosmetically it's fine, no scratches or the like. Retention wise it's seems perfect too. I tried a couple of shake tests trying to get the knife to fall out. One like throwing a dart and the other twisting, like quickly turning a combination lock. Solid, no problems at all. I switched it so I could carry on my right hip.
Function-
Today was mostly kitchen work. It did lettuce, tomato, onion and steak, plus all the associated packaging. No great challenges here, and no surprises. It cuts well, fast and straight. The shape is good for this work, as you would expect and the blade has good weight to it, so it makes a fine chopper.
I carried it around all day, didn't even notice it was there. It goes in and out of the sheath easily. -Also did a little play-around indexing, but to be sure, I'm no MBC guy. The thumb groove at the base of the handle is awesome though. In a reverse grip it really adds a feeling of security. A person could get carried away and think I'm ( I mean "he's") Jet Li or somebody.
Anyway, today was a relief day. Tomorrow's back to work and the Temperance will ride along. Good Lord willin' and the crick don't rise it'll be quiet, but you never know. It'll be the first day in a couple of years that I won't have my Military with me, but I'm going to leave it home so the Temperance is the no-choice matter-separator of the day. I'm going to miss the Military even for the day, but they're very similar in size when layed next to eachother, and I trust Sal, so I guess we'll see how the other half (fixed-bladers) live.
Review, day two:
Today at work I carried the Temperance, in its sheath, all day. I attached the sheath to my trouser belt behind my right hip. My gunbelt went over it. It's cold as heck here, so I had my quilted vest cover on. The handle of the knife layed against the outside of the vest cover. This was a perfectly comfortable and very low-profile set-up, never poked or stuck me in the back.
However, over that vest goes my jacket, and that made getting at the blade difficult. In fairness, I'm very used to having my Military in the front of my waistband. Easy in, easy out. So having to reach for a knife in a sheath is not a conditioned response for me. I had to deliberately locate the knife and draw it, then do the same to re-sheath.
I got mostly positive comments from those who saw it. One guy, who's still in the honeymoon period with his first Endura, loved the blade shape. Someone else said, "It looks like a steak knife."
I found that it made nice push-cuts through the relatively thick plastic of flex-cuffs. Slicing through them was less successful, requiring a great deal of force, as the plain edge wanted to just ride along the plastic's surface. This is as I expected, serrations being the answer here. I wondered if I might, but observed no edge rolling as a result of this use. It continues to slice paper cleanly, but while it will still shave, it is probably 50% less eficient at it than when it arrived.
One more day to go, then the Temperance goes in the mail.
Today at work I carried the Temperance, in its sheath, all day. I attached the sheath to my trouser belt behind my right hip. My gunbelt went over it. It's cold as heck here, so I had my quilted vest cover on. The handle of the knife layed against the outside of the vest cover. This was a perfectly comfortable and very low-profile set-up, never poked or stuck me in the back.
However, over that vest goes my jacket, and that made getting at the blade difficult. In fairness, I'm very used to having my Military in the front of my waistband. Easy in, easy out. So having to reach for a knife in a sheath is not a conditioned response for me. I had to deliberately locate the knife and draw it, then do the same to re-sheath.
I got mostly positive comments from those who saw it. One guy, who's still in the honeymoon period with his first Endura, loved the blade shape. Someone else said, "It looks like a steak knife."
I found that it made nice push-cuts through the relatively thick plastic of flex-cuffs. Slicing through them was less successful, requiring a great deal of force, as the plain edge wanted to just ride along the plastic's surface. This is as I expected, serrations being the answer here. I wondered if I might, but observed no edge rolling as a result of this use. It continues to slice paper cleanly, but while it will still shave, it is probably 50% less eficient at it than when it arrived.
One more day to go, then the Temperance goes in the mail.
Review, day three:
Carried the Temperance at work again today. This time I clipped it to one of the straps of my vest, on my left side. I really like the way this sheath works.
-The clip is reversible, as has been discussed. It's also easily adjustable for belt width. The best feature though, is that it has a quick-release built in. You don't have to remove your belt to attach or remove the sheath. By simply squeezing two tabs on the clip, with your thumb and index finger, the clip swings open like a match book cover so it can be slid over your belt. It then closes easily with a satisfying click. Nice.
I cut a little snow-fencing and some odds and ends. Nothing special. As before, it worked just fine.
In the end, the Temperance isn't for me. The test days showed me that I find a fixed blade in a sheath too much trouble to use. It's under my jacket and I have to reach back to draw or replace it, fishing around my ASP, etc. In uniform, but without the jacket, I couldn't carry it -too exposed.
It was a perfectly serviceable performer, doing all the basic knife-chores I expected. Around a campsite or such, where open carry on my belt would be okay it would be fine. I suppose in such a scenario, the fixed blade would be advantageous if one wanted to chop wood or something. Barring that though, I never found anything that the Temperance did that my Military doesn't and the Mil is much easier for me to pack.
Thanks Dave, for the opportunity to participate. I hope to do so again in the future. The plan is to check the edge, a steeling is almost a certainty, a sharpening is a maybe, clean it, pack it and send it off to Big-Target in the morning. I will post tomorrow to confirm that it's on the way.
Doug
Carried the Temperance at work again today. This time I clipped it to one of the straps of my vest, on my left side. I really like the way this sheath works.
-The clip is reversible, as has been discussed. It's also easily adjustable for belt width. The best feature though, is that it has a quick-release built in. You don't have to remove your belt to attach or remove the sheath. By simply squeezing two tabs on the clip, with your thumb and index finger, the clip swings open like a match book cover so it can be slid over your belt. It then closes easily with a satisfying click. Nice.
I cut a little snow-fencing and some odds and ends. Nothing special. As before, it worked just fine.
In the end, the Temperance isn't for me. The test days showed me that I find a fixed blade in a sheath too much trouble to use. It's under my jacket and I have to reach back to draw or replace it, fishing around my ASP, etc. In uniform, but without the jacket, I couldn't carry it -too exposed.
It was a perfectly serviceable performer, doing all the basic knife-chores I expected. Around a campsite or such, where open carry on my belt would be okay it would be fine. I suppose in such a scenario, the fixed blade would be advantageous if one wanted to chop wood or something. Barring that though, I never found anything that the Temperance did that my Military doesn't and the Mil is much easier for me to pack.
Thanks Dave, for the opportunity to participate. I hope to do so again in the future. The plan is to check the edge, a steeling is almost a certainty, a sharpening is a maybe, clean it, pack it and send it off to Big-Target in the morning. I will post tomorrow to confirm that it's on the way.
Doug
Okay, the Temperance is on its way to the Garden State.
I tried it on the steel and found all but a 2cm or so section of the edge came right back to shaving sharp. So I gave it several passes on the white stones of a 204. Good as new. -Or close to it, the tip is still not perfect. I considered fixing it completely, then thought that, if it didn't go well, I didn't want to be the guy who received a PE Temperance and sent it out with homemade serrations.
It should arrive at Big-Target's in 2 or 3 days.
Thanks again Dave!
I tried it on the steel and found all but a 2cm or so section of the edge came right back to shaving sharp. So I gave it several passes on the white stones of a 204. Good as new. -Or close to it, the tip is still not perfect. I considered fixing it completely, then thought that, if it didn't go well, I didn't want to be the guy who received a PE Temperance and sent it out with homemade serrations.
It should arrive at Big-Target's in 2 or 3 days.
Thanks again Dave!
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You ain't kidding, it's now at the last person before coming back to me. Supposed to be at least as this last person has not responded to me and I have no phone number for them. I'll have to check, I think it was sent return recept requested.
That being said it is somewhat remarkable that the list was 17 people long. One thing that's irritating is that there usually seems to be someone that signs up then disappears later, or never responds to email.