Tenacious: A real Spyderco

Philwar, I was the original poster of the thread: Spyderco Byrd Line: What's the Point, and for the record, I never indicated that I thought the Tenacious was low quality or "cheap", I just didn't see the point in the Byrd line since the Tenacious could have just as easily had a Byrd hole and been sold as a Byrd knife, and seems like it fits in with the rest of the Byrd line as far as the Chinese production and price. I don't have a Tenacious, but I have been EDCing my Persistence for a week or so, and I a fan.
 
oguruma said:
Philwar, I was the original poster of the thread: Spyderco Byrd Line: What's the Point, and for the record, I never indicated that I thought the Tenacious was low quality or "cheap"
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Never said YOU did. Someone else made that remark. It just happened to be in the thread you started. ;)
 
I own two Tenacious knives. Both are close to perfect. Good fit & finish. Very smooth action. Perfect lock up. Dependable lock. The other three Tenacious knives I handled all had similar [the same] quality.

Rafael
 
Fredde90210 said:
Life is far too short to play with knives that has been produced by chinese children.
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There are no Chinese children producing knives. They're in school. The government doesn't give 'em a choice in the matter.

If you don't like knives produced in China, SAY SO, you don't need to resort to hyperbole.

That said, why China specifically? Is the Chokwe not a "real" Spyderco because they're produced in Taiwan? How about the Gayle Bradley? The Sage 2? The Perrin PPT?

Why not take it a step further and say the Japanese-made Spydercos aren't "real" Spydercos? 50 years ago, the exact same thing was said about Japanese build quality as people have said about China in the last 20 (and guess what, like Japan, they're catching up in terms of quality and expertise).

Spyderco design, Spyderco looks, Spyderco quality control (I've not seen a grind problem in 2+ years with that knife).

Walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it's a duck.
 
I love my Tenacious. The detent is perfect...there is no way mine would open up by being jostled around in a fanny pack.
 
jekostas said:
Why not take it a step further and say the Japanese-made Spydercos aren't "real" Spydercos?
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Funnily enough, I used to think Spyderco was a Japanese company. Same with Cold Steel. And not in the way Tommy Hilfiger is a Hong Kong company with an American guy fronting it. But just because all their knives used to come from Japan. Had no idea who Sal Glesser or Lynn Thompson was til I came on these forums.
 
I'll say that the quality of my Persistence is good for what I paid for it. It's a good knife for $30, but I wouldn't pay much more than that for it...
 
Some of these comments bashing the Tenacious are kinda ridiculous. You guys realize its a 30 dollar knife right? You know something is great when people are complaining about grind lines on a 30 dollar folder.
 
kawr said:
Some of these comments bashing the Tenacious are kinda ridiculous. You guys realize its a 30 dollar knife right? You know something is great when people are complaining about grind lines on a 30 dollar folder.
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Agreed. You can't get something for nothing, but I think that is goes back to why a lot of people feel that it isn't up to the Spyderco name. People feel that the fit and finish of all of the Spyderco blades should be superb, and really visible grind lines could be considered an example of substandard fit and finish.
 
whoops.. I forgot the "made in china so it's crap and I wont buy" among the popular condemning critiques as well...
 
oguruma said:
Agreed. You can't get something for nothing, but I think that is goes back to why a lot of people feel that it isn't up to the Spyderco name. People feel that the fit and finish of all of the Spyderco blades should be superb, and really visible grind lines could be considered an example of substandard fit and finish.
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Yet the three Spydercos I've bought this year all have burrs on the inside of the thumbhole that weren't finished out, and they were all Seki-City made knives. How's that any better than a visible grind pattern?
 
jekostas said:
There are no Chinese children producing knives. They're in school. The government doesn't give 'em a choice in the matter.

If you don't like knives produced in China, SAY SO, you don't need to resort to hyperbole.

That said, why China specifically? Is the Chokwe not a "real" Spyderco because they're produced in Taiwan? How about the Gayle Bradley? The Sage 2? The Perrin PPT?

Why not take it a step further and say the Japanese-made Spydercos aren't "real" Spydercos? 50 years ago, the exact same thing was said about Japanese build quality as people have said about China in the last 20 (and guess what, like Japan, they're catching up in terms of quality and expertise).

Spyderco design, Spyderco looks, Spyderco quality control (I've not seen a grind problem in 2+ years with that knife).

Walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it's a duck.
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Why don´t read you the thread again... I like Spyderco but not the Tenacious. Kvack, Kvack. I had 3 Tenacious, The first had poor grindings (seen better on "gas stations knives") The second dropped a washing during use, and the third has some edge retention issues ... Do you really think I can recommend it???
 
Fredde90210 said:
Why don´t read you the thread again... I like Spyderco but not the Tenacious. Kvack, Kvack. I had 3 Tenacious, The first had poor grindings (seen better on "gas stations knives") The second dropped a washing during use, and the third has some edge retention issues ... Do you really think I can recommend it???
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1. You're complaining about grind lines on a $35 knife?

2. It dropped a washing or you dropped it while you were washing it?

3. Do you expect ZDP edge retention on a $35 knife?


If you don't recommend it no problem, just don't trash it with "made by chinese children" talk.
 
Fredde90210 said:
Why don´t read you the thread again... I like Spyderco but not the Tenacious. Kvack, Kvack. I had 3 Tenacious, The first had poor grindings (seen better on "gas stations knives") The second dropped a washing during use, and the third has some edge retention issues ... Do you really think I can recommend it???
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Yet, you said absolutely none of that during the course of the thread - the only point you made was that it was "made by chinese children".

I really don't give a crap if you like the knife or not, and yes, there are plenty of reasons not to buy Chinese merchandise if you so desire that are very well documented.

But saying what you've said in this thread? Yeah, expect to get questioned about it.
 
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