tenacious or cyclone

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i want to get a budget folder as i am ordering this along with a more pricy knife anyway i have no idea witch one to choose

kershaw cyclone or spyderco tenacious
 
The Cyclone is:

Tougher
Larger
Has more features
Better warranty
Made in the USA
Better steel
Assisted Opening
Doesnt look like every other knife from the manufacturer
 
I'd go with the Cyclone out of the two.
J_Curd explains why.

You can't go wrong with either though.
 
Puny Human said:
I'd go with the Cyclone out of the two.
J_Curd explains why.

You can't go wrong with either though.
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I have the Tenacious and like so many, love it. The Cyclone didn't ride comfortably for me in the pocket and I didn't like the clip.

BUT.... when visiting a local knife shop, I was in there talking to the only guy that knows that knife is spelled with a K. He does repairs and sharpening to pick up some money on the side and has apparently gotten pretty good at it. He showed me a Cyclone in for repair.

The guy that brought in his brother's Cyclone confessed to using to pry open a can of paint. He said it was "the only thing he could find" The blade was bent about 3/8" of an inch from the tip to about an inch back. It wouldn't even close.

I was horrified. The repair guy laughed and assured me he saw stuff like that all the time. And, he told me that since it was a Kershaw he was sure he could fix it with no real damage to the knife.

Why not send it to Kershaw? He assured the repairman that it needed to be back in the drawer as soon as possible because if his brother saw it he might literally use it on him!

Seriously, this is kind of a toss. One has better steel, one is cheaper, the both ride differently, the ergos are different on both knives. If you can handle the knives to see how the ride and how comfortable they are in the hand, that would be the way to go.

Robert
 
I have both. They are two totally different knives to me. Just pick one you will like either one. Although the kershaw is made in the USA if it matters to you and there warranty is great.
 
klhayes77 said:
I have both. They are two totally different knives to me. Just pick one you will like either one. Although the kershaw is made in the USA if it matters to you and there warranty is great.
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I agree, both very good knives, but very different as well.

Tom
 
"Cyclone confessed to using to pry open a can of paint. He said it was "the only thing he could find" The blade was bent about 3/8" of an inch from the tip to about an inch back. It wouldn't even close.
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At least it bent, if it had been a Spyderco the tip would have snapped off.
 
Cyclone is an inferior broken design that retailers are selling for low prices because they break all the time. It looks great, but how good is a broke knife? Get some other kind of Kershaw that is engineered better.
 
More than that, the Cyclone is a DISCONTINUED knife! The AO mechanism has a high rate of failure that led Kershaw to stop production. If you want one get it now and hope that if it breaks Kershaw will fix it properly.
 
Silverdagger said:
Cyclone is an inferior broken design that retailers are selling for low prices because they break all the time. It looks great, but how good is a broke knife? Get some other kind of Kershaw that is engineered better.
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autoopen said:
More than that, the Cyclone is a DISCONTINUED knife! The AO mechanism has a high rate of failure that led Kershaw to stop production. If you want one get it now and hope that if it breaks Kershaw will fix it properly.
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Links please to how unreliable this 2 1/2 year old Cyclone EDC in my back pocket is please :rolleyes:. Knives get Discontinued all the time usually it has nothing to do with reliability. If it breaks I have no doubt in my mind Kershaw will fix it for free.
 
Silverdagger said:
Cyclone is an inferior broken design that retailers are selling for low prices because they break all the time. It looks great, but how good is a broke knife? Get some other kind of Kershaw that is engineered better.
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autoopen said:
More than that, the Cyclone is a DISCONTINUED knife! The AO mechanism has a high rate of failure that led Kershaw to stop production. If you want one get it now and hope that if it breaks Kershaw will fix it properly.
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Sorry guys, you got it all wrong. The Cyclone was discontinued for the same reason that all knife manufacturers discontinue knives. I can not count how many products that I own that are or have been discontinued, knives or otherwise. So all of these were "broken inferior designs" with "high rates of failure"? Many times products are discontinued because they can no longer be produced at a profitable price point. I have seen many great products discontinued and replaced with inferior ones due to cost, not failure. If Kershaw would ever produce an inferior product they would re-call and fix or replace. And Hunter is absolutely correct, Kershaw provides warranty service for discontinued items. I have a discontinued Kershaw multi-tool (EDC) that they have sent me replacement parts when needed over a span of the last 5 to 7 years. Talk about service:thumbup:.
 
autoopen said:
More than that, the Cyclone is a DISCONTINUED knife! The AO mechanism has a high rate of failure that led Kershaw to stop production. If you want one get it now and hope that if it breaks Kershaw will fix it properly.
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Silverdagger said:
Cyclone is an inferior broken design that retailers are selling for low prices because they break all the time. It looks great, but how good is a broke knife? Get some other kind of Kershaw that is engineered better.
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Even if the AO did fail, you would be left with.....a regular folding knife that works just fine. A broken Cyclone is still at least as good as a Tenacious.

I am 100% confident that Kershaw would take care of you in the unlikely chance that something went wrong. Either with a replacement torsion bar, or a knife of equal value.
 
hunter s thompson said:
Links please to how unreliable this 2 1/2 year old Cyclone EDC in my back pocket is please :rolleyes:. Knives get Discontinued all the time usually it has nothing to do with reliability. If it breaks I have no doubt in my mind Kershaw will fix it for free.
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+1
Mine is almost 3 years old now. It is not in my back pocket any more though.
It is in my truck now. It gets used more often now than it did when I carried it.:D
 
Dekz said:
I am 100% confident that Kershaw would take care of you in the unlikely chance that something went wrong. Either with a replacement torsion bar, or a knife of equal value.
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You got that right. :thumbup:
 
I believe I posted this before, but the Cyclone (other than the Tanto, which will go away at the end of 2009), has been discontinued since 2008. It was disco'd for lack of sales.

The low prices you see on this design is due to us building off the remaining parts, and selling them at an attractive price point to our customer base.

Certainly we will take care of Cyclones should there be a warranty issue.
 
Hello. I'm still very new to the forums, but I think I can help you out.

Having owned both and used both at work (I work in a warehouse), I can tell you that the cyclone's steel will take a much better edge and hold it much longer than the tenacious. The tenacious is much easier to sharpen, but I found myself having to sharpen it after every two workdays whereas the cyclone could go well over a week without getting so dull as to be rendered ineffective.

As for comfort, the tenacious is quite a bit lighter and I find it's pocket clip to be superior. In spite of the fact that the Cyclone's aluminum handles are a bit more slippery than the Tenacious' G10, the Cyclone is a much more comfortable knife to use if you find yourself using it extensively. I have a row of callouses along my second row of knuckles on each hand from where the Tenacious has rubbed and caused blisters.

The cyclone's assisted feature (for me) broke after three months, after which I used it as a manual folder. I got a replacement torsion bar from Kershaw, but for my money, the Cyclone makes a better manual folder than it does an A/O. I find that the Tenacious' opening hole is an easier method of opening, although the cyclone's flipper and thumb studs are by no means inefficient. My cyclone's lockup was infinitely superior to that of the tenacious - the tenacious had a bit of blade wiggle from the factory (didn't affect the function of the knife, to be honest, only an aesthetic issue) and could be made to fail (with the spine whack test). Still, they both functioned well enough to make good work and EDC knives, which is all one can really expect from a knife, right?

In summary, the Cyclone is a higher quality knife with much better blade steel than the Tenacious. In my opinion, it would be worth spending the extra money to get a Cyclone, especially if you plan to use it hard.

Hope I didn't make a fool of myself :foot: and I hope I could help you make up your mind!
 
I've never had any problems with my Tenacious and can highly recommend it. I honestly have no complaints about it at all. Never handled the Kershaw, but for an inexpensive folder it's hard to go wrong with the Tenacious.
 
hunter s thompson said:
Links please to how unreliable this 2 1/2 year old Cyclone EDC in my back pocket is please :rolleyes:. Knives get Discontinued all the time usually it has nothing to do with reliability. If it breaks I have no doubt in my mind Kershaw will fix it for free.
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my cyclone has a broken ao. the switch does absolutley nothing now
 
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