Texas Knife Law - Current Session (R84 - 2015) Proposed Knife Laws

It did not. At this point the best we can do is make as little fuss as possible and keep our fingers crossed it goes through as planned. Less attention paid to it the better. Sometimes you need to light up the phones and email; other times, like this, NOT! ;)

This is true. I'm reminded of the old joke... "What do you do when you find a bear sleeping in the woods? Let it sleep."

I'm glad to hear that no substantial changes were made. The ideal situation would be for L&C to put it on the fast track calendar and it sails on through w/o any discussion.

Thanks for the update.
 
So, better off to call no legislators at this point?

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Thanks for the updates and work.

Let us know when calls and emails are useful again.
 
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So, better off to call no legislators at this point?

Yes.

At this point, the bill is sitting in the pile of bills that has come out of their various committees. The L&C (local and consent) committee is responsible for deciding which path the bill will follow. They will look at the bill and try to decide if it is likely to pass w/out any discussion. If they think it will pass, it gets placed on their calendar, the Local and Consent Calendar. Every bill placed on this calendar is then put before the House members the next week. If 5 or more members disapprove of the bill, it gets jerked to the slow track. If debate/discussion lasts longer than 10 minutes, slow track.

If the committee gets bugged a lot about a particular bill, they are just as likely to figure the will be controversial and subject to significant debate. If they think that, they will put it on the regular calendar and those bills come up one at a time and get examined/debated/commented on to death. The further down the list your bill is placed on the calendar, the less likely it will even be debated on, much less voted on.

This is what happened to the similar bill last year. It got put on the "slow track", and was placed on the calendar as the very last bill to be considered for the legislative session. NEVER in the history of Texas, as a Republic or a State, before, during or after Reconstruction, has the last bill ever been reached. All these tail end bills just sit and die.

We don't need to be waving any red flags at this time. We need to just sit here like little mice and hope the L&C committee doesn't hear any flak about it from some representative(s). It should, at most, take a week or 2 for them to work their way down through the pile of bills. Then, the following week, it might pass and then go to the Senate.
 
That bill is the "get rid of all knife laws" bill. I would love for it to pass, but I'm not gonna hold my breath for it this session. I feel that one will be much more controversial and will probably be put on the slow track calendar. It may or may not even get out of committee.

Again, I hope it passes.
 
Status of HB 92, the bill that would remove the word "Bowie" from the list of illegal knives, finally made it to a committee hearing but was left pending. Hopefully, it will move along next week.
 
Status of HB 92, the bill that would remove the word "Bowie" from the list of illegal knives, finally made it to a committee hearing but was left pending. Hopefully, it will move along next week.

Since this bill is causing a fair amount of confusion, allow me to please make a point:

While this bill removes "Bowie Knives" from the list of illegal knives, it won't really have any significant effect on Texas citizens who want to carry a Bowie Knife. There is no definition of a "Bowie knife" in Texas law. So a Bowie knife is what a police officer, prosecutor or judge says it is.

Most people have a common understanding of what they believe is a "Bowie knife" and in most cases the blade would exceed 5.5" thereby nullifying the effect of HB92 in TX for most knives most folks would consider a Bowie Knife.

That is why Knife Rights' Comprehensive Knife Ban Repeal bill, HB3884, simply strikes all illegal knives from the statute.
 
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Doug, I definitely agree that 3884 is better. I REALLY want 3884 to pass.

I just feel that, in the event 3884 doesn't pass this session, removal of the word Bowie from the existing code would eliminate misguided attempts (which have occurred in the past) to label any clip blade knife, regardless of length, as a "Bowie".
 
HB 905(pre-emption) was read 3x in the House yesterday (5/5/2015) and was passed, apparently unanimously, by the House and sent on to the Senate, where it was recorded as having been received today.

The next step is for HB 905 to be assigned to a specific Senate Committee before being "studied" and hopefully sent on with no changes to the Senate calendar committee for vote scheduling.

If it is sent on with no changes, simply passing in the Senate will send it to the Governor's office to be signed.

If the Senate committee to which it is assigned makes changes, then the bill will have to be passed in the Senate, be arbitrated and re-passed by both chambers. Here's hoping for no changes. :D

HB 92 (removal of Bowie knife from the list of illegal knives) and HB 3884 (removal of all knife laws from the books) are both still pending in their respective committees.
 
HB 3884 (removal of all knife laws from the books) are both still pending in their respective committees.

Not exactly. Knife Rights' bill to repeal the ban on "illegal knives" in Texas, HB 3884, has been voted out of the House Criminal Jurisprudence Committee and has been recommended to be placed on the Local and Consent Calendar for the full House to consider.

More on this shortly...
 
Texas Knife Ban Repeal Bill Moving: Knife Rights' bill to repeal the ban on "illegal knives" in Texas, HB 3884, has been unanimously voted out of the House Criminal Jurisprudence Committee and was recommended to be placed on the Local and Consent Calendar for the full House to consider.

HB 3884 was originally drafted to simply remove "illegal knives" from Texas statute. The original draft created a concern that the "illegal knives" on the list could now be possessed by minors and on school grounds.

In order to address those concerns, HB 3884 was amended with substitute bill text (http://www.kniferights.org/HB03884_substitute.pdf). It still eliminates the outright ban on the possession and carry of "illegal knives" in Texas, while continuing to regulate their possession by minors and in certain sensitive and narrowly defined areas. In addition, the penalty for these remaining restrictions has been reduced to a Class C misdemeanor, reducing the likelihood that a conviction results in a loss of civil rights, except where it involves a school, which remains a third degree felony.

If you live work or travel in Texas, contact your Representative and ask them to "please vote in favor of HB 3884." Find your Representative at: http://www.house.state.tx.us/members/find-your-representative/
 
Thanks for the update. Doug. Looks like it is starting to move quickly now. The updates on the Legislative website weren't updated yesterday apparently didn't post up til after midnight.

Am I wrong in believing that even if 3884 passes, unless 905 passes, cities will still be able to pass their own ordinances? Or does 3884 also include a preemption clause?
 
HB 3884 does not include preemption. So if for some reason HB 905 (Preemption) didn't pass and HB 3884 did, then city ordinances would still be in effect. Obviously, our hope is to pass both bills.
 
im pro this! I'm glad we got the go a head to start buying and carrying switchblades and auto knives, that's a good step. I'm really hoping we get OC approved in some form. A 1911 is just so much easier to carry outside my pants!

Is this true, can we carry automatic knives in Texas now?
 
Since 01 September 2013. They just still have to meet the "legal" requirement of less than 5.5" tip to guard and only a single edge.
 
Movement on 905... the bill was read for the first time in the Senate today and then sent to the Senate Criminal Justice committee.
 
HB-3884, Knife Rights' bill which removes all illegal knives from the Penal Code (essentially eliminating the term "illegal knife") was sent to the "Local & Consent Calendar" committee today.

See post #19, re: HB-905 going to the L&C calendar, for details on how this affects the bill.
 
HB-3884 has been placed on the Local and Consent Calendar for a House vote this Friday, 15 May.

Doug, should we or should we not contact our representatives?
 
HB-3884 has been placed on the Local and Consent Calendar for a House vote this Friday, 15 May.

Doug, should we or should we not contact our representatives?

You can, but it's not likely to make any difference at this point. Sometimes it's necessary to do, sometimes it's potentially a problem, as we saw with SB 905, and sometimes it appears that things are going well and it doesn't really matter. We're at that point on SB 3884 now which looks to be on a "fast track." Not that something unexpected can't happen, it's politics after all, but that's Todd's assessment at this juncture.
 
Thanks, Doug. At least 3884 is moving more quickly than 905 did. I suspect that it's likely to catch up with 905 and they will be assigned to the same committee.
 
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