That Darned Kitchen Table Again!

[Jack Black]

Thanks for posting those Jack, really interesting knives, always good to see!

Thanks a lot Paul, hope you're well my friend :thumbup:

A very diverse collection on the table, Jack! I enjoyed the look at each one. The polish knife peeked my interest as I had not remembered the Gerlach. And why is the Joesph Rodgers called a bunny knife?

Thanks Gev, Gerlach have been making good honest knives since the days of Ted E's grandfather :thumbup:

+1.
Anything to do with an Australian plague of rabbits that required constant killing and processing of same?

I think it is exactly that, a bunny knife is a small jack knife in Australia, where Rodgers have always enjoyed a lot of trade. The main blade on my granddad's knife had that name etched on, and that was common enough here too, but today I think Rodgers knives are only etched for the Australian market, where they're still sold as Bunny Knives :thumbup:

 

[bladeboss]

Hey Jack, can you please explain the ring-opener knives? I don't think I understand how they "work". I've never seen that style before.

 

[tiswa60]

I too know nothing of ring knives great old knives thanks for letting us see them

 

[Gevonovich]

Since Jack is counting sheep right about now and has an early morning trek, I will explain. One grasps the ring and turns it ( the attachment point that the ring runs through is connected to the blade), which rotates the blade out of the handle. To close the knife, you can do it normally or rotate the ring in the apposite direction. There are nail nicks on some of the ring opening knife blades, so they can be opened normally. Here is one Jack sent me some time back...

 

[tiswa60]

That's great who makes these

 

[Campbellclanman]

Thanks for inviting us into your kitchen, Jack! :thumbup::thumbup: Always interesting, and often tasty, fare on the table.
What struck me today was the tang stamp on this Joseph Elliot stockman. I wonder if it was subconscious inspiration for Charlie Compagna's blade stamp for his new ancient barlows, with the mirror-image "C"s separated by a many-armed (or legged) symbol. Very cool!

- GT

I made reference to that in the TC Thread the other day GT about the Joseph Elliot Stamping- I just LOVE the early stampings on the Sheffield Knives - and I think Charlie deserves the CC Stamping - you are right, its very cool my friend!

Jack, that Kitchen Table has bought us folk here great times looking through such an amazing assortment of great old things - thank you Jack, once again - ALWAYS great reading and viewing.

 

[r8shell]

And here is one Jack sent to me.



I guess it was for gentle folk with nice manicures to open without using their nails. Or rough folk who chewed down their nails through hard work. Either way, it's nifty.

 

[Jolipapa]

This French multi-blade doesn’t show a maker, but is nicely made.

Big chances this is a Bargeon, a onceimportant cutlery in Thiers (the complete catalogue - and others - is here
) BTW I have the automatic (in the middle)since 1970. Imagine my face when I discovered she had emigrated in my daughter's handbag when she was 17een. Great rock & roll at home that day... LOL

 

[GasMan1]

Since Jack is counting sheep right about now and has an early morning trek, I will explain. One grasps the ring and turns it ( the attachment point that the ring runs through is connected to the blade), which rotates the blade out of the handle. To close the knife, you can do it normally or rotate the ring in the apposite direction. There are nail nicks on some of the ring opening knife blades, so they can be opened normally. Here is one Jack sent me some time back...

Nice Pic. Gevonovich

 

[Jolipapa]

This French multi-blade carries the name T H Pradel. Quite nicely made, love the quadrant spikes on these ‘Pradel’ knives.

Jack, this is not a Pradel.
ie : Pradel was a cutlery, established in 1812, becoming PRADEL-BROSSARD in 1970, extinct in 2010. It is also a knife shape.
It once was synonym of quality (for good reasons), the trademark was an anchor, but the name was not protected. Then came a lot of copyists, using the name that helped much to sell knives. You had from the best to the worst. (http://www.couteaux-jfl.com/marques_pradel.htm
TH Pradel was made by THOULY PRADEL Gaston, then DAVID ISSARD Joseph (1943.)

A kind of your knife (much worse) still exists, still stamped Pradel but I doubt it to be really made in France.

 

[Jack Black]

Hey Jack, can you please explain the ring-opener knives? I don't think I understand how they "work". I've never seen that style before.

I too know nothing of ring knives great old knives thanks for letting us see them

Since Jack is counting sheep right about now and has an early morning trek, I will explain. One grasps the ring and turns it ( the attachment point that the ring runs through is connected to the blade), which rotates the blade out of the handle. To close the knife, you can do it normally or rotate the ring in the apposite direction. There are nail nicks on some of the ring opening knife blades, so they can be opened normally. Here is one Jack sent me some time back...

Thanks for your interest guys, and to you Gev for doing a great job of answering the questions, that's a beautiful photo my friend :thumbup:

That's great who makes these

I believe one of the Traditional Forum Knives was a ring-opener, but I'm not aware of anyone producing them generally. There are plenty of vintage ones around though :thumbup:

I made reference to that in the TC Thread the other day GT about the Joseph Elliot Stamping- I just LOVE the early stampings on the Sheffield Knives - and I think Charlie deserves the CC Stamping - you are right, its very cool my friend!

Jack, that Kitchen Table has bought us folk here great times looking through such an amazing assortment of great old things - thank you Jack, once again - ALWAYS great reading and viewing.

Thanks a lot pal, and I agree with you on the CC stamp/etch. I just hope that kitchen table doesn't collapse! :thumbup:

And here is one Jack sent to me.



I guess it was for gentle folk with nice manicures to open without using their nails. Or rough folk who chewed down their nails through hard work. Either way, it's nifty.

Nice to see that r8shell

Big chances this is a Bargeon, a onceimportant cutlery in Thiers (the complete catalogue - and others - is here
) BTW I have the automatic (in the middle)since 1970. Imagine my face when I discovered she had emigrated in my daughter's handbag when she was 17een. Great rock & roll at home that day... LOL

Thanks a lot for that, great information :thumbup: Did you get your automatic back?!

I once lived on a Rue Victor Hugo, but I guess nearly every French town has one (this was in Boulogne) :thumbup:

Jack, this is not a Pradel.
ie : Pradel was a cutlery, established in 1812, becoming PRADEL-BROSSARD in 1970, extinct in 2010. It is also a knife shape.
It once was synonym of quality (for good reasons), the trademark was an anchor, but the name was not protected. Then came a lot of copyists, using the name that helped much to sell knives. You had from the best to the worst. (http://www.couteaux-jfl.com/marques_pradel.htm
TH Pradel was made by THOULY PRADEL Gaston, then DAVID ISSARD Joseph (1943.)

A kind of your knife (much worse) still exists, still stamped Pradel but I doubt it to be really made in France.

Thank you again for the information my friend, I knew these 'Pradel' knives had some considerable controversy attached to them, and tried to word my post ambiguously. I saw a post elsewhere with photos of more than a dozen different 'Pradel' stamps, but that really is a fascinating link. I have had several myself, including one like the knife carried by Amundsen to the South Pole, but none are the genuine Pradel. It is very interesting for me to read about it :thumbup:

 

[Jack Black]

Here's a couple of catologue pages relating to the Rodgers Jack and the IXL Stockman :thumbup:

 

[Jolipapa]

Thanks a lot for that, great information :thumbup: Did you get your automatic back?!

And how! I had to make a deal : I get the knife back, she kept my Solitaire Maglite (which I knew not it was no more in my working bag! - the light is still attached to her keyring).
That knife was really unexpensive and a very sturdy construction.

I once lived on a Rue Victor Hugo, but I guess nearly every French town has one (this was in Boulogne) :thumbup:

Boulogne/mer or Boulogne -Billancourt? I once lived in the later.
I think you're right, along with Gl DeGaulle and rue/Avenue de la République!
Thiers is not far behind (the man, not the town), but this is more controversial.

Thank you again for the information my friend, I knew these 'Pradel' knives had some considerable controversy attached to them, and tried to word my post ambiguously. I saw a post elsewhere with photos of more than a dozen different 'Pradel' stamps, but that really is a fascinating link. I have had several myself, including one like the knife carried by Amundsen to the South Pole, but none are the genuine Pradel. It is very interesting for me to read about it :thumbup:

The same could apply to Sabatier.

...one like the knife carried by Amundsen to the South Pole, but none are the genuine Pradel. It is very interesting for me to read about it :thumbup:

I have a Edmund Hilary replica Smiths watch, same kind of thing!

My IX+L faux stag is a 1500IS1.

 

[Jack Black]

And how! I had to make a deal : I get the knife back, she kept my Solitaire Maglite (which I knew not it was no more in my working bag! - the light is still attached to her keyring).
That knife was really unexpensive and a very sturdy construction.

LOL! Having had three teenage daughters, I have had similar experiences! That looks like a quality automatic :thumbup:

Boulogne/mer or Boulogne -Billancourt? I once lived in the later.
I think you're right, along with Gl DeGaulle and rue/Avenue de la République!
Thiers is not far behind (the man, not the town), but this is more controversial.

Boulogne-sur-Mer I'm afraid (some of the locals add a couple of letters to the name). I actually lived in Residence Victor Hugo on Rue Victor Hugo, and drank at Cafe Victor Hugo!

The same could apply to Sabatier.

Really? I didn't know that.

I have a Edmund Hilary replica Smiths watch, same kind of thing!

My IX+L faux stag is a 1500IS1.

Classic :thumbup:



Here is my maternal grandfather's gold watch. He was a humble wire-weaver for most of his life, but after 25 years, he received a gold watch for his service. He was the 6th employee at the Tinsley Wire Industries, 'number 6 hammer'. The firm grew to be huge, but is now gone. With the watch is his union badge and the company badge from his overalls.



I picked up an old and interesting French knife a couple of hours ago, and will post photos later if I manage to upload them. I'd be very grateful for your thoughts about it :thumbup: Here's a preview.

 

[Gevonovich]

Beatutiful watch and treasures!! Do you wear it? Looking forward to the new knife and seeing it open!

 

[Markesharp]

That is too cool Jack! I would like to see it open when you get a chance. I'm trying to figure out what the brass linkage is for.

 

[Jack Black]

Beatutiful watch and treasures!! Do you wear it? Looking forward to the new knife and seeing it open!

Thanks Gev, I do wear it, yes. It's still going strong

That is too cool Jack! I would like to see it open when you get a chance. I'm trying to figure out what the brass linkage is for.

I'll hopefully be able to post some more pics later Mark, just trying to upload them at the moment. The brass is for a spring balance! Fascinating knife, cost me rather a lot

 

[Gevonovich]

Wonderful, Jack!

 

[Jack Black]

Wonderful, Jack!

Thanks again my friend

 

[Jack Black]

The same could apply to Sabatier.

Really? I didn't know that.

Ah yes, I see what you mean now! :thumbup:

http://www.couteaux-jfl.com/marques.htm