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The 2018 Fremont Jack has WEAK pull & is lazy from half stop to close

Discussion in 'Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades' started by Every Day LAN, Jun 13, 2018.

  1. Every Day LAN

    Every Day LAN Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 7, 2018
    I was able to score 4 of the 5 Fremont Jacks from this year's run. How was the pull strength and walk+ talk of previous runs? All four of mine have weak pull strength and are lazy from half stop to close! I love the pull strength and walk+talk of the #78, so that is my benchmark. I sold my #43 because it was too weak + lazy. What do you all think about this year's batch of Fremont Jacks?
  2. LastRodeo

    LastRodeo Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Nov 2, 2013
    After I flushed my Fremont, the action is similar to other recent Northwoods I have/had (Fayette, Lincoln). Even my Little Bay needed a flushing to unleash it's action, which is very stout.
  3. Every Day LAN

    Every Day LAN Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 7, 2018
    How did you flush yours? I ran some water through mine, worked the knife back an forth a number of times, then re-oiled. Still has lazy action.
  4. gusnuts

    gusnuts Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 7, 2015
    I think it is becoming evident that this last run had weak pulls and lazy snaps... I flushed mine with mineral oil and worked it open/closed a bunch of times and was able to improve it however it was still not to my liking. I have purchased many GEC and Northwoods knives over the years and the action on these out of the bag was probably the worst I have seen yet.
    hughd likes this.
  5. GunGraber

    GunGraber Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 22, 2016
    I'm surprised by all the comments I've been reading about bad walk&talk. I bought one in stag and it has a slightly softer pull that my mammoth fremont from a previous run but closes with a very audible snap. Maybe I lucked out.
  6. LastRodeo

    LastRodeo Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Nov 2, 2013
    Mineral oil, then Break Free CLP. I had two solid bits that came out, that improved the action considerably after each one dislodged.
  7. Jaydud

    Jaydud Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 24, 2015
    I opened and closed mine several times (about 10 or so) and it became noticeably snappier. There was no need to flush the pivot on my stag FJ.
  8. skivic

    skivic Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 8, 2012
    Flushed my burlap and it feels just like my buddies denim from last run
  9. Every Day LAN

    Every Day LAN Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 7, 2018
    Mineral oil in the pivot worked! The laziness has been approved a lot. But the pull is still weaker than I excepted.
    LastRodeo likes this.
  10. afultz075

    afultz075 Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 2, 2006
    I am not impressed with mine. Worst walk and talk of any GEC I have owned. In addition the tip is almost proud of the handle right from the factory.

    This is the only GEC/Northwoods I have been disappointed with. The recent Fayette Jacks and Big Bays have absolutely perfect pulls on the other hand.
    gusnuts likes this.
  11. Modoc ED

    Modoc ED Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 28, 2010
    Send them back to the dealer or GEC.
    MerryMadMonk likes this.
  12. The Logical One

    The Logical One Gold Member Gold Member

    May 31, 2011
    Both my burlap and mammoth from this run seemed kinda gritty at first and the mammoth would do a lazy close 2/5 times. After opening and closing a bunch both are pretty snappy. I didn’t do any flushing or relubing.
  13. Jaydud

    Jaydud Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 24, 2015
    After reading this, I just checked mine again and realized that the tip is a bit exposed when closed. Now I am disappointed. Other than the tip being exposed, I really like my FJ and it is my first knife in stag. Any suggestions? Should I file down the kick?
  14. JohnDF

    JohnDF Gold Member Gold Member

    May 14, 2018
    Flushing, sharpening, and filing the kick is pretty much standard "break-in" procedure for GECs.
  15. joeradza

    joeradza Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 6, 2014
    I've owned over 50 and never had to do any "break in".
    gusnuts, Rambler, Norcaldude and 3 others like this.
  16. TheChunk91

    TheChunk91 Basic Member Basic Member

    Aug 15, 2013
    From the factory they grind the kicks to the bare minimum for the blade to sit in the liner, it's explained by Bill Howard in a GEC factory tour video. The reason is that after prolonged sharpening and use when you have to file the kick down to keep the blade inside the liners your pull stays accessible for as long as possible.
    GunGraber likes this.
  17. MerryMadMonk

    MerryMadMonk Platinum Member Platinum Member

    May 22, 2011
    My latest 2 Fremont Jacks are no different than any of my others since 2014 (about 8 or 9). Pull is about a 5, good snap both ways, good fit & finish.

    Maybe I got lucky this go around or maybe the frenzy to join the frenzy to own the hot item puts some folks in the position of not really knowing what they're spending their money on.

    Many of the complaints are not new; nor are the recommended remedies. A little homework/research will confirm this. But each time the Fremont Jack is released it's like Groundhog's Day... all over again.

    There's a search function on the forum or you can use this string in Google: site:bladeforums.com fremont jack

    Heck, you can do this for just about any knife ever made.

    If you're not happy with your Fremont Jack, return it.

    Or sell it... just don't forget to disclose all the issues.
    cigarrodog and Ramrodmb like this.
  18. JohnDF

    JohnDF Gold Member Gold Member

    May 14, 2018
    Sorry if I offended anybody. I assumed most people flushed their knives and put a final edge on 'em.
    As far as filing the kick, I've had to do it on several of my GEC knives as the tip could be felt when running a finger along the well. I realize why they do it this way and wasn't bashing them, just stating what I do to my user knives.
    Rambler, GunGraber and JB in SC like this.
  19. joeradza

    joeradza Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 6, 2014
    No offense John. I think it may be a change in the last two years or so. Most of mine were previous to that. Only a few were recent. And, there are too many that have the same experience as you for me to doubt you.
  20. Jaydud

    Jaydud Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 24, 2015
    I would like to clarify my last post, which I quoted...

    This is my fifth northwoods knife. All needed sharpening and had some other sort of imperfection. I was not looking for a perfect knife when I ordered my FJ. I really love my FJ and would like to keep it. I was okay with the the edge not being perfectly straight or the walk and talk being “mushy”. The only thing that got under my skin was the tip being exposed when closed.

    That being said, this is my first traditional in stag and I always wanted a Fremont Jack. If that means I have to file down the kick to get the tip tucked in nicely then that’s what I will do.

    So if it sounded like I was complaining, I didn’t intend it to sound that way. I was just looking for some advice from more knowledgeable folks here on how to get this knife the way I prefer.

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