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Greetings all,
People that know me understand that by nature, if I have a question I simply ask it, regardless of the sensitivity of the topic at hand. It's not me being uncouth or invasive, I feel I should be able to ask any question and receive an honest answer. That being my preface...
i ask a lot of questions, i don't necessarily expect answers at all. that's just business. nobody tells me nothing

Why was SMKW the retailer chosen as the distributor for the 250 limited run of each tweener?
because:
Hey Everybody......
Yes, there are only about two to two hundred fifty of the roll stamped tweeners (each)......At Smoky's rep weekend the Smoky guys and Kim (from Ka-Bar) and I were having din and After looking over the goods and discovering that there was a first production run of a few hundred they offered to take ALL of them.....YES we said SOLD........Thank You Steve !!!!!....
in a nutshell, timing is everything, SMKW had the $$$, and it was a better business opportunity, that sold a lot of unwanted (750?) knives. done. solved a big headache and money issue in one go. done done done. afaik, imho.
Why was it the Beckerheads did not receive so much as a "Hey guys, heads up..."
well, we were. April 1st; afaik, SMKW was not supposed to release anything until then. why did they release early? F*** if i know. perhaps they F***ed up. perhaps they were given a go ahead. perhaps the date for that changed or was not in stone. pretty much: they own the product now, and it has nothing to do with anyone else anymore.
perhaps you're asking why we didn't get first dibs, or special pricing, or ? well. could be many reasons. foremost: money talks. money up front, and problem solved. it's a very big headache for them to sell a few dozen knives to us at special prices. the BK77s flew out the door, and they didn't have many. the BK10s? big hassle, and they really didn't sell well -- the number of people who kept them is VERY low too. imho, WE need to step up when special offers are presented, hold forth, and do good reviews too (esp on passarounds/contests - gripe gripe)
Why is it even after the thread came out that they were made available through SMKW, no one from KA-BAR has said anything?
why should KaBar say anything? heck, they're probably aware NOW, but that day? possibly caught off guard, but what would they say? why? done deal. doesn't concern them really.
now, Ethan said something. more than once. so have i (as a useful mouthpiece for Ethan, and whatever information i can get from KaBar).
I understand our access to the Forums is a privelage, not a right.
I understand that business is business and personal is personal.
What I don't understand is how this has gone down as it has, as we are KA-BAR/Becker's most loyal fan base.
Remember, by the nature of this association we tread upon the thin line that separates business from personal.
I am not alone when I say I have taken this somewhat personally.
Regards,
Ark
speaking of KaBar they are so STUPID BUSY right now, it's not funny. can't even reach them on the phone most days. they are probably not even reading the forums much right now, except for directed skimming. they (by which i mean the big three we know there), don't have time to read 400 threads and 9000 responses. that's why the Trinity is around a bit, and if something is really critical, we point it out.
honestly, based on what i know, i was surprised by all this too.
KaBar is under zero obligation to release plans or information on projects that have not made it public. they're a privately held company too i think, right? so while that would not necessarily affect stock futures, they still can't wildly disclose their thoughts it would not make good business sense for them to say "oh, well, we have plans to release 15 news knives, and 5 new designers, and blah blah blah". here are our dates. etc.
look at Apple. they say NOTHING until the day, hour, and second. then they only say a little. very carefully. even then, they slip dates (like the iPad3? slipped opening day by 3 days, that's gotta hurt). many companies don't want to provide dates, esp manufacturing, where little things snowball. at best, such dates were estimates. i said this (over and over and over) when the numbers were reluctantly given out. however, people are holding those dates up as if they were contracts carved in stone by the gods, and they're PISSED. seriously pissed. disappointment? sure. no right to be that mad though.
me? i can only relay information i have and am allowed to provide. i dig. i pry. i cajole. i beg. sometimes it works

the SMKW? yeah, i knew about that. i know about lots of crap. but until the day of the thing, i can't tell you. like i said, nobody told ME they were going early. i *was* planning on having an announcement the moment they were ready. guess not.
same thing happened when the BK5 came out. i found out when people were posting pictures of the damn thing. uhm, what? was shipped, they got sold. not the best, but there you go.
i cold called KaBar the other day. the sales line person told me that Machax should be ready by April 1st. Sheaths must've come in, or are expected to. i assume: possibly earlier. i can hope. later? that can happen. changes? well, i expect changes.
anyway. your nifty thrifty terrific trinity does what they can but we can't make what we want happen hardly ever. i wanted early samples, passarounds, reviews, contests, and other promotions and stuff. i lobbied. i know moose lobbied. guyon made biscuits :> he lobbied too, i'm sure.
and it's not even April 1st yet, and people are PISSED the regular tweeners aren't out yet either. geez. people

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