The AXIS Lock springs and I

It's 2013. Everybody has a camera of some type. Even the crappiest phones have cameras now. Take some pics of the broken springs. I know I'm not the only one who would like to see them.
 
[video=youtube;ONlQfUYpVkk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONlQfUYpVkk[/video]

Here it is in video.
 
you can make your own omega springs out of guitar string. choose from different thicknesses depending on the tension you want.
 
Mephtyrm said:
I'd say I flicked it quite a lot.
A thing I'd like to say is that I don't have a ton of knives so I tend to flick the few I have immensely unlike a lot of other people who have dozens of knives and thus
the amount of flicking is spread out much more.
Yes I flicked it quite a lot. I had read so many threads where people said they'd flicked Axis lock knives tens of thousands of times without a single spring failure
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Yep, you broke it. It's a tool, not a toy. My 13y.o. doesn't do that, and he only has one Rift. The repeated compression/decompression of a spring is what causes fatigue. If you do it frequently enough and fast enough, you can build up heat in that spring, possibly enough to change the temper of it and lead to premature failure. Just leave it in your pocket until you need it.

Oh, and just removing a scale does not void your warranty.
 
loonybin said:
Yep, you broke it. It's a tool, not a toy. My 13y.o. doesn't do that, and he only has one Rift. The repeated compression/decompression of a spring is what causes fatigue. If you do it frequently enough and fast enough, you can build up heat in that spring, possibly enough to change the temper of it and lead to premature failure. Just leave it in your pocket until you need it.

Oh, and just removing a scale does not void your warranty.
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From Benchmade
This Warranty does not cover normal wear, resharpening of the blade, damage caused by neglect, misuse or the failure to perform normal or necessary maintenance, disassembly of any knife by any person other than Benchmade’s Warranty department, or shipping costs for returned knives.
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I'm thinkin I disassembled that thing, and for all I know they'll see this thread and say flicking it so much was "misuse"
 
Has the broken part been determined to be due to "normal wear" by BM? or are you just reprinting their lawyer speak for warranty coverage?
If I were BM I'd want that knife back pronto for QC analyses of the broken part. Perhaps this is a bad run of material used...too brittle, etc. and could be the start of a run of warranty problems with knives using the part.

If your father refuses to send it back that is on him and BM is not to blame. Seems they fixed it though the fix was also apparently faulty.
Have you contacted BM describing your current situation and the fact that your father refuses to pay for another return shipping? Again if I were BM I'd send you a RM label paying for the return shipping...that is fairly standard and I have been issued RM labels for a camera that died, etc.

Based on other stories I've read on this forum regarding the great service by BM I'm rather shocked at this thread.
I own several BM's, my favorite being my 585 and I "flick" it all the time and have for the year or more I've carried it and it works perfectly to this day.

I suggest contacting BM, describe your situation and then tell us their response...
 
Kai Winters said:
Has the broken part been determined to be due to "normal wear" by BM? or are you just reprinting their lawyer speak for warranty coverage? I suggest contacting BM, describe your situation and then tell us their response...
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This. The model 580 Barrage had a run with springs not heat treated properly that caused a lot of failures. I'm not saying this is the case here and believe this is the result of a young man flipping his knife in excess. But they should be called for their opinion at: 800-800-7427. And yes, if the father doesn't want to work this out that's unfortunate.
 
Don't say you did anything (you really did nothing wrong) just say it broke and have them get you a label to send it in.

Id say it was just really bad luck as I dont see what you could of done wrong unless you drank 10 cups of coffee and went on a bender flipping it open and close like a maniac for 5 hours straight. I flip whatever knife im carrying open and close when thinking or zoning out and never had problems...
 
I don't think it was excessive flipping, since a few other guys have chimed in that they've flipped their knives millions of times. Bad springs, oh well. It happens. My buddy had one that broke, he took out the broken spring and just left one in there, and then that one broke after a couple of months. He used a guitar string and made 2 of them, but found that they were too stiff and took one out. He's had that one spring in there for at least a year now. He doesn't flick compulsively though.
 
"I'm a flicker"...there I said it and don't regret it...
Singing "I'm a knife flicker" to the tune of "I'm a girl watcher"...hehehe
 
Skimo said:
Severe typo. 1,000,000 / 5475 = 182
365x15 =5475

That's an impressive amount of cycles!
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My math is always suspect, but 40/min x 120 mins = 4,800 x 3/wk = 14,400/wk x 50 wks = 720,000 x 15 years = 10,800,000. I think... ;)
 
What? BM710 was my first knife bought more than 7 years ago and that spring never broke. Also bought all BM axis folders from that time and (guess what?) no one spring never broke.
And Benchmade sent me 2 omega springs, some screws and clip last year which I still have. For free.
 
And I have eight years of Benchmades without a broken spring. Call it age, maybe experience. Growing up with Case and Schrades, then Bucks and others I never damaged a blade or mechanism by flicking. When opening an Axis-based model I always use the thumbstuds, and in many examples pull back on the Axis bar and close two-handed, maybe using the pants leg. I understand the logic of flipping, it Is fun...but the pressure on both springs and the stop pin leaves nothing to be gained over the extra wear caused.
 
Mephtyrm, I think all in all your a good young man that for some reason has a lemon or bad luck. I won't say the others here who expressed why or why not the spring failed are right or wrong. All I know is you have a quality knife that should last longer than it did.

If your dad won't pay to send it in for warranty PM me your name and address and I will send you a check for $15.00 to cover shipping? Hey you like knives, a Benchmade is a nice knife in fact they're great knives and I hate to see you not being able to enjoy it.

Maybe others will think I'm a sucker---well I've got thick skin and big shoulders and I don't care what anyone thinks of me ;)

So if my offer will help---send me a PM :thumbup:

Merry Christmas Everyone,

Paul
 
paulhilborn said:
Maybe others will think I'm a sucker---well I've got thick skin and big shoulders and I don't care what anyone thinks of me ;)

So if my offer will help---send me a PM :thumbup:

Merry Christmas Everyone,

Paul
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I hope Santa is watching Paul, Christmas spirit can be catchy, Kudos for your offer to Mephtyrm. :thumbup:
 
paulhilborn said:
Mephtyrm, I think all in all your a good young man that for some reason has a lemon or bad luck. I won't say the others here who expressed why or why not the spring failed are right or wrong. All I know is you have a quality knife that should last longer than it did.

If your dad won't pay to send it in for warranty PM me your name and address and I will send you a check for $15.00 to cover shipping? Hey you like knives, a Benchmade is a nice knife in fact they're great knives and I hate to see you not being able to enjoy it.

Maybe others will think I'm a sucker---well I've got thick skin and big shoulders and I don't care what anyone thinks of me ;

So if my offer will help---send me a PM :thumbup:

Merry Christmas Everyone,

Paul
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Thank you very much Paul for the offer, but I finally convinced my dad to send it off after he read some of this thread and the lots of people
who are backing up their positive experiences with Benchmade.
I really appreciate you offering money to some random kid complaining about bad luck.
 
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