The best elk killing knife?

Are you mad?First,buy a Steyr-Mannlicher.
The Luxus (like mine) or the scout as designed by Cooper!!!!!!!
Then, don't miss the big fecker!Put him down,keep hitting till he goes down.Get the ten round mag. extension if you have to.
My best mate hunted in Africa last year,and to finish trophies they stab the beast in the back of the neck with a four inch double edge dagger to save the cape/trophy.
So down him first,then cut a steak!!!!!

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Touche? Too slow!
 
Chinook, thanks for the link! I saw this thing on some t.v. show being put through it's paces. They were ramming the suit, with a guy in it, with a pickup truck, pushing him over cliffs, beating him with 2x4's, pretty intense. I gotta get me one of these!
 
Yeah, he survived the bear attack, butt he is really obsessed with them now. It says the suit will turn away armor piercing arrows from a 100lb bow, and he jumped off a 150 foot cliff at Niagra in it.
I think it may need more cushion in the head region.
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If any kind of animal is charging me I'd rather have a khukuri than anything else. Check out the dead bear and dead alligator pics in the HI forum.... One stroke will put the point into his brain and he'll drop. A thrust with a sword ... he'll mess you up before he realizes he's dead, likely fatally. If a bear charges me from 25 feet (8 meters) I'd rather have a khukuri than any pistol, even a .454 Casull.

-Cougar Allen :{)
 
Sounds as if you plan on hunting the Irish Elk. In that case you will be best served by using an enchanted blade. May I suggest possibly Flamberge. That way you can cut him, quarter him and cook lunch at the same time. Or my next choice would be something on the line of a Steel Orcid i'd try to match him point for point. And do not forget the 100 leage boots and the enchanted armor. The Irish Elk is an enchanted beast and you will need all the help you could find.You might try to bribe the Faerie into helping as drivers.

Cheers,

ts

Silly is as silly does.

On the serious side of this question. DO NOT TRY TO TAKE AN ELK WITH A KNIFE! He has everything on you size, reach, strength, agility and weapons. Your best bet would be to hamstring him.Highly unlikely unless you are pack hunting. I suggest A GOOD MAGNUM REVOLVER. A .41 or larger with Hammerhead cast bullets.


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"Cet animal est tres mechant;quand on l'attaque il se defend."("This animal is very mischievous: when it is attacked it defends itself")
 
Hey didja see the movie "The Edge"???? The knife you want is the one from the movie that they used to kill that bear. Would that make it a Ka-Bar??? Oh well the bigger the better - a boar spear would work pretty well too!! That's it that's the ticket. You want a Randall Model 18 7.5" hollow handle mounted on a Byrd 48" tubular extension.
 
Hitting a charging elk with a knife will be extremely tough. In a knife a H.I. 20" Ang Khola at about 3.5 lb would be my top choice. Perhaps a 18" Ang Khola might be better, you might get a few more wacks in while the elk is stopping on you.

However, for the weight of a large knife you could carry a 37 mm flare pistol. It might discourage the elk more than any knife.

The bayonet is a probably a good option. I believe bayonets were initially designed to fight calvary. You could proabably solder a bayonet lug on your sharpshooter to handle a sword baynet (17") from a Lee Enfield No.1 Mk3.

Good luck, you'll need it if you face a charging elk with a knife or bayonet.

Will

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Sorry Cougar, with all due respect there just ain't no way that kukri is gonna split his skull before he gores you. Watch those Wild America videos sometime. They charge with their heads down, antlers out. Anyway, you're as likely to get the antler as the skull(that's what they're designed for)

Ambushing them is a different scenario, one that a kukri would work in, but not a charge. Likewise with a charging bear. In fact, that bear would knock you on your ass and gobble you up pretty quick with on swipe of a paw. Have you ever seen a bear up close, do you know how big they get? I guess you'd have a chance with a small black or something. Ben Lilly(it was him, right) got away with what he did because the bear wasn't charging. I think he used dogs too.
I can kill an aligator with a Project 1. In the conext of the harpoon and tuckered out aligator it works, I would never try to kill a charging aligator or elk with a Project 1, unless it was my only weapon and I had nowhere to run. Just because a weapon can do one thing in one context doesn't me it neccesarily applies universaly to all scenarios.

I can never keep the nomenclature straight on the Enfield's. No. 4 Mk. 1, was it? Anyway, love the gun.

Yeah, bayonets were employed against cavalry, but they were on real long weapons back then. Honestly, I don't think any blade, without the suit, would be worth a damn in this situation. Save a full-bore hunting spear. Yeah, the Cold Steel model should work. Use it like a pike, held at an angle and braced against a foot to recieve his charge, he'll drive the point home himself. Note: The butt of the spear should be driven into the ground too, the foot is just there to help. If you try to thrust you spear headlong into a charging elk, you'll get knocked on your ass. If you could get him from the side you'd do alright.
 
A friend of mine was dressing a "dead" whitetail deer (knife in hand in the deer's hide + 30-06 180gr in chest area)when it decided to make a quick exist. It threw/trampled him and took off before any of us had a chance to do anything.

I think a 12'lance and a good horse will improve your chances to 50/50.

p.s. during the early to mid 19 century the bayonet was briefly used to repel cavary charges. The bayonets of the period had 22-24" blades, and the tactic was developed for used in conjunction with the (british) square defense posture - Think 3 ranks of shoulder to shoulder bayonets. I hope you have alot of friends with you if you decide to go with a bayonet.

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With a .300 mag you are supposed to USE the range. I am a bow hunter of elk, and my max range is 80yards. Even with a solid brisket shot the animal doesn's seem to know how badly it is hit and runs away. Tracking is a useful skill. Elk don't climb trees real well, so there is a thought.
 
I'm not at all sure it would be possible to get a khukuri into the brain of a charging elk; we don't have them where I live and I'm not familiar with them. Maybe you'd have a better chance of stopping it with a club ... most large animals can take a lot of clubbing, though.

For international members, it's high time someone explained this whole discussion has been about the American Elk or Wapiti which is not an elk at all; it's similar to a red deer. We have real elk too but we call them moose.

It's been done with a bear -- when the search function is fixed you'll be able to find the pics I mentioned in the HI forum. I'm pretty confident I could do it too ... any chance of someone sending me a bear to test???

It would make a more interesting video than the "stun gun" tests, that's for sure.
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-Cougar Allen :{)
 
Cliff,

Please watch what you say, you might insult Cougar. Considering his high standards of weapons review he would never dream of rubber. I don't think he would be happy with any little 18-inch steel Kukri either.

It reminds me of the old story of the stranger who challenges a guy to a beheading contest. The challenger lets the other guy have first swing. Then he picks up his head and says he'll come back next day to take his turn. I can see Cougar saying "See, that didn't hurt much. Do you want to try it?"

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isnt this a lot like the alaskan expression, dont ever shoot a grizzly more than 5 times with a 44 mag...always save the last shot for yourself? my advice is to go to the range and practice a lot....or get a bigger gun.

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P.O.ed charging elk huh? How about a Phill Hartsfeld tanto to commit sepuku just before he gets there. If you're quick you may not feel too much pain.

phantom4

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Jeff,

I think the beheading contest is in one of the Arthurian legends involving the Green Knight. FWIW...

Sam.
 
How would how playing dead would work? Elk has no desire to eat humans.

The elk might loose interest and leave after stopping on you a few times.

Will
 
"Any chance of somebody sending me a bear to test?"

That's why it's called The Cougar Allen Chalenge!!
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I'll make a deal with ya, if somebody donates the bear, I'll hold the camera. Unless you think you can get it.
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I'd like to see more about the bear and kukri in question, I have no doubt at all the kukri has the power to do the job, in the right context. The thing is, I once saw bear baiting first hand, in the flesh. As in I was actualy there while it was happening. Two mastifs(sp?) and a big grizz(probably 8ft tall). It was seriously uncool, I don't condone that sort of thing, but a large angered bear is a bit more than I think a person could handle with a kukri, or anything short of a spear.

Elk don't eat meat where you're from? Weird...
 
This many people interested in killing Elks!!!
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(No, I didn't read the above posts)
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