The Black Widow - By Rodrigo Sfreddo

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Hello there guys,

This is the new knife from Sfreddo. There isn't much to say, the images show it all. If you need any specs, just ask and I will provide.

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Hope you like it.

Jeff Velasco
www.brazilianbladesmiths.com.br
 
If you need any specs, just ask and I will provide.
Jeff,
Sweet. :thumbup:
If you would be so kind,length,handle? Blackwood. :confused:
Rodrigo seems to have a penchant for the little things,in this case,the ricasso.
Also,for naming some of his knives. :cool:

Doug
 
Doug,

The blade is 6 1/2 inches, the handle is ebony with SS piqué work. Furnitures are all damascus and SS.
 
That's gorgeous... but is there a crack in the blade above the name? Perhaps I'm just seeing something that's not there.

regardless... great knife!!!! :thumbup:
 
Not at all, it's a welding mark that shows more than it should because it is located right on the joint of two parts of the billet.

I called the maker just to be sure and he said it was left there because the blade profile was just about perfect and he didn't want it to be any thinner. And as it presents no danger to the knife structure...

Jeff Velasco
 
Thanks for the info. I didn't mean to criticize as I'd love to have this in my collection. I was more curious about what I thought I saw or didn't see.
 
The knife is beautiful, but I must say that the "welding mark" would give me pause.
 
I really like this one. The guard, furrule and ricasso treatments are superb.
Rodrigo's knives are just getting better and better. He's also a very talented sheath maker.

The welding mark is interesting though in that it again brings up the subject of what is a "flaw", and the many different interpitations of a flaw.

The recent thread “flaw” was one of the most intense and debated threads that I've viewed here.

The piece below is one of my all time favorite knives. It sold a few months ago on one of the dealer websites to some very fortunate collector.

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I'm not sure if the welding mark would bother me or not. Probably not.

This bowie is no exception; I've loved every single knife I've ever seen from Mr. Sfreddo. :thumbup:
 
IMHO a FLAW is something that would make a tool not to work properly, and in a custom handmade piece of art, I would expect to see some details that give up the human aspects of its construction.

Of course, this welding mark shows the current skill level of this maker, but apart from aesthetics, that's all it shows. And we all have seen similar things is knives stamped with famous names, at least at one point of their careers. Its just part of the handmade process.

As a maker Rodrigo wouldn't sell a flawed tool. All knives he sells, and all knives sold through my website have lifetime warranty provided by the maker.

Jeff Velasco
 
Personally, I like the knife, and I love the handle treatment. I'm not sure the item people are discussing would bother me. However, I am not a big fan on mosaic damascus. With this said...

IMHO a FLAW is something that would make a tool not to work properly, and in a custom handmade piece of art, I would expect to see some details that give up the human aspects of its construction.
Jeff, surely you realize that what you're saying here doesn't make sense. Would this knife be in any way less a demonstration of human ingenuity without this mark? Of course not.

Of course, this welding mark shows the current skill level of this maker, but apart from aesthetics, that's all it shows. And we all have seen similar things is knives stamped with famous names, at least at one point of their careers.
True enough.

Its just part of the handmade process.
No.

As a maker Rodrigo wouldn't sell a flawed tool. All knives he sells, and all knives sold through my website have lifetime warranty provided by the maker.
Warranty against what? Nobody is going to push this knife (or most custom knives) to its limits, so this warranty (fond in many sites of makers and dealers) is kinda meaningless, isn't it? Not to be a jerk, but since you bring that up...
 
Would the cracked damascus pass the ABS Mastersmith inspection at the blade show? Inquiring minds want to know.
 
Anthony - I doubt it very much. Not so much because of this mark specifically, but simply because most knives - even those of ABS MS - are not made to the standards of the ABS MS test.

As to whether this knife would pass the test if all other aspects were up to the standards of the MS Test, on the sole (de)merit of this weld mark, I don't know.
 
Would this knife be in any way less a demonstration of human ingenuity without this mark? Of course not.

No Joss, it would't, but when I see such a thing in a knife I see a demonstration of human activity, rather than a FLAW, and therefore a sign of his skill level and that this is expected, though not really wanted, in any handmade item. From this point of view I think I can state that this is part of the handmade process, mostly because ALL knifemakers have been there at one given point of their careers.

Warranty against what? Nobody is going to push this knife (or most custom knives) to its limits, so this warranty (fond in many sites of makers and dealers) is kinda meaningless, isn't it? Not to be a jerk, but since you bring that up...

Joss, I have no idea of how other makers make their knives, but the ones I sell through my website are warranted and there were few times that this warranty was used. You will be amazed to see how many people will put their high or mid end knives to use.

Regarding damascus knives, some makers don't diferentialy heat treat their knives because they don't want the temper line to mess up the pattern sight. Those knives might not survive the bend test, but will stand quite a beating if the heat treatment (anealing, hardening and tempering) was done with precision and care.

That all being said, the fact that most collectors don't beat their high end knives, it doesn't mean that a maker just relax on his or her duties to provide the best tool. It's his name on the line and we all know how fast a name can be stained in this business.

We do our job as we are supposed. I am sorry if I sounded rude, in fact I don't mean to. You are one of my first and best costumers, but I feel that if you (or anyone else) have doubts about the quality of our products its imperative that I adress the issue. Anyone with questions is very wellcome to post or e-mail me.

Jeff Velasco
 
I really like this one. The guard, furrule and ricasso treatments are superb.
Rodrigo's knives are just getting better and better. He's also a very talented sheath maker.

What he said. This is a gorgeous piece. I've been a fan of Rodrigo's work for some time and this one is no exception. I love the blade shape and the damascus pattern. This would be an attractive piece even with a simple handle, but man, did Rodrigo ever pull out all the stops on that handle. I couldn't deal with the tension of running all those pins through that quilted ebony (assuming I had the skill, which I sure don't).

As for the weld mark - troubles me not at all. I've seen as much on knives three times the price.

Any guesses on what an aftermarket sheath like that would cost? Yowza.

Roger
 
I had to dig through my files for a bit to find this pic of one of my favorite Sfreddo knives:

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His use of texture on this piece takes up to a whole other level:

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Roger
 
I must dissent.

Rodrigo is one of the top 2 or 3 Brazilian forgers and certainly has some of the best knives at any show but the damascus knife is all wrong for me.

It just seems awfully busy with all of the different treatments and textures on the blade, handle and sheath. I am sorry, this knife is overly cluttered in my opinion. I would prefer it in straight carbon steel. The handle detailing is exceptional, as well as guard and sheath work, but it is just to busy for my eye. But thats why ice cream comes in 31 flavors, right?

Rogger, that integral is one of the best knives from the past Blade show. I loved its understated elegance.
 
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Sellers pic,from here,last May.Sorry for the pic.The silver inlay of the club,spade,heart and diamond are very well done and the choil is pierced with a heart.

Doug
 
I don't necessarily find the weld seam a flaw, but it is an unwelcome and unattractive addition to the pattern.

That said, I think the knife has EXCELLENT QPR, and a buyer would not lose any money on it, and could expect to make a few hundred dollars to an interested buyer.

I leave the aesthetic quality discussion to others. I will simply say that it is a nice looking knife.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
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