The Collaboration of the Elite and What it Means for the Consumer

AmericanAsApple3.14 said:
Yes, if they can work it out I'd think some of the to-be-worked survive models (8, 10, 12, etc) might have this latest HT. I'll probably never purposely chop through nails like that demo, but you never know what you might encounter.

I think in one of those threads where I got that quote Nathan did say something about it being hard to sharpen - I wonder if that will be a trade off for the increased toughness/wear resistance
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The perfect knife would never go dull or break. As a result it would also be unsharpenable. :)
 
AmericanAsApple3.14 said:
Maybe the new HT turns the steel into adamantium....
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We can only hope!


Really though, I wonder when or if they'll be able to put a date on this. Is there going to be a huge rush of reselling so that people can get their existing or favorite models with the brand new extra special heat treat??? I know anything coming from S! will be amazing, but the OCD in me gets anxious knowing there is something better than what I have coming up on the horizon.
 
It is a new heat treat compared to the older models. However, like Red said, this the one that Nathan is talking about is the Newest version... It is literally tougher then nails and has (at least in his demonstration) out performed INFI in cutting nails.
 
Silver Needle said:
We can only hope!


Really though, I wonder when or if they'll be able to put a date on this. Is there going to be a huge rush of reselling so that people can get their existing or favorite models with the brand new extra special heat treat??? I know anything coming from S! will be amazing, but the OCD in me gets anxious knowing there is something better than what I have coming up on the horizon.
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I'm the same way with the OCD about something better... I honestly think though for 95% of the uses/applications there would be little to no noticeable difference between current Survive HT and the newest protocol. That's what I'll tell myself at least....
 
Wonder when the new extra special NTM heat treat will be implemented, hopefully before they start on the GSO 6, that would be great!
 
AmericanAsApple3.14 said:
I'm the same way with the OCD about something better... I honestly think though for 95% of the uses/applications there would be little to no noticeable difference between current Survive HT and the newest protocol. That's what I'll tell myself at least....
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Until you have to cut nails... SHEEESH! Then what are you gonna do!
 
AmericanAsApple3.14 said:
I'm the same way with the OCD about something better... I honestly think though for 95% of the uses/applications there would be little to no noticeable difference between current Survive HT and the newest protocol. That's what I'll tell myself at least....
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If I followed my own demented logic, I wouldn't have any knives because I'd always wait to buy "the next better version", but I suppose that will always be the case!
 
You know, I think we are all a little OCD and thats the wonderful characteristic that makes us all knife nuts. We all landed here on Survive!
forums because we are well informed on knives and OCD about everything having to do with them. It's exactly what I love about this!
 
Not in the forest. But in a construction site environment, a heavy use knife that can occasionally be used where nails or steel is present and not majorly damage the edge, is a huge plus for me and my men that use knives. We retro fit old poultry houses up to new humane certification levels, and use knives to cut hard foam insulation off of steel trusses, pry wood chunks out of places, strip wire and punch holes through sheet metal. And that's only a small list of dailly examples... A 3.5 or 4.1 or maybe a 4.7 type blade is hammered on, pried on, and wedged in many places... Metal and other materials.... So advances in heat treat are exciting to users like us.
 
Revolverrodger said:
How often do you need to cut nails in the forest ?
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I have dulled many a chainsaw blade by bucking tree trunks with hidden fencing and fencing staples embedded in the tree and invisible from the outside. Granted one rarely tackles a tree trunk with a knife around the campsite unless it is a small one, but it is not outside the realm of possibility. Cutting nails is the same as cutting wire, it is just a function of diameter, correct?
 
Some wire and some nails are hardened, and it makes a lot of difference in how hard they are to cut.
 
I don't think I'd ever intentionally cut a nail, but it's damn nice to know that I could. Kinda like an extra security blanket.
Plus this may open up the ability to make a Scandi ground 4.1!! The knife in his video resembles a scandi grind.
 
But you might need to cut into a tin in a pinch and it's good to know that you won't kill the blade doing it. I've done it with a cheap knife, it did the job but chunked/nicked the blade up.
 
I saw a post somewhere talking about trade-offs in toughness vs cutting ability/wear resistance. Has anyone heard Nathan or Survive say if this new HT, which seems to have extremely impressive toughness, will result in any less cutting ability?
 
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