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The Collaboration of the Elite and What it Means for the Consumer

Discussion in 'Survive! Knives' started by Anttheknee, Feb 6, 2016.

  1. Fancier

    Fancier

    Jul 1, 2012
    The perfect knife would never go dull or break. As a result it would also be unsharpenable. :)
     
  2. AmericanAsApple3.14

    AmericanAsApple3.14 Gold Member Gold Member

    792
    Sep 10, 2014
    Maybe the new HT turns the steel into adamantium....
     
  3. Silver Needle

    Silver Needle

    Jul 14, 2014
    We can only hope!


    Really though, I wonder when or if they'll be able to put a date on this. Is there going to be a huge rush of reselling so that people can get their existing or favorite models with the brand new extra special heat treat??? I know anything coming from S! will be amazing, but the OCD in me gets anxious knowing there is something better than what I have coming up on the horizon.
     
  4. Riz!

    Riz!

    May 5, 2014
    I thought they were running that new HT protocol already
     
  5. redwood22

    redwood22 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 23, 2014
    What they are running now is a step up from last gen knives, but the NTM treatment is the next step(s) beyond
     
  6. Anttheknee

    Anttheknee

    376
    Feb 19, 2012
    It is a new heat treat compared to the older models. However, like Red said, this the one that Nathan is talking about is the Newest version... It is literally tougher then nails and has (at least in his demonstration) out performed INFI in cutting nails.
     
  7. Standard78

    Standard78 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 25, 2015
    Talk about a game changing heat treat!
     
  8. AmericanAsApple3.14

    AmericanAsApple3.14 Gold Member Gold Member

    792
    Sep 10, 2014
    I'm the same way with the OCD about something better... I honestly think though for 95% of the uses/applications there would be little to no noticeable difference between current Survive HT and the newest protocol. That's what I'll tell myself at least....
     
  9. cold one

    cold one Gold Member Gold Member

    812
    Jul 23, 2009
    Wonder when the new extra special NTM heat treat will be implemented, hopefully before they start on the GSO 6, that would be great!
     
  10. Riz!

    Riz!

    May 5, 2014

    Until you have to cut nails... SHEEESH! Then what are you gonna do!
     
  11. Silver Needle

    Silver Needle

    Jul 14, 2014
    If I followed my own demented logic, I wouldn't have any knives because I'd always wait to buy "the next better version", but I suppose that will always be the case!
     
  12. OBX351

    OBX351 Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 29, 2014
    Rocks and other pieces of metal?!?
     
  13. Anttheknee

    Anttheknee

    376
    Feb 19, 2012
    You know, I think we are all a little OCD and thats the wonderful characteristic that makes us all knife nuts. We all landed here on Survive!
    forums because we are well informed on knives and OCD about everything having to do with them. It's exactly what I love about this!
     
  14. Revolverrodger

    Revolverrodger

    Jul 23, 2007
    How often do you need to cut nails in the forest ?
     
  15. Brian77

    Brian77 KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 27, 2014
    Not in the forest. But in a construction site environment, a heavy use knife that can occasionally be used where nails or steel is present and not majorly damage the edge, is a huge plus for me and my men that use knives. We retro fit old poultry houses up to new humane certification levels, and use knives to cut hard foam insulation off of steel trusses, pry wood chunks out of places, strip wire and punch holes through sheet metal. And that's only a small list of dailly examples... A 3.5 or 4.1 or maybe a 4.7 type blade is hammered on, pried on, and wedged in many places... Metal and other materials.... So advances in heat treat are exciting to users like us.
     
  16. McVeyMac

    McVeyMac Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 19, 2013
    I have dulled many a chainsaw blade by bucking tree trunks with hidden fencing and fencing staples embedded in the tree and invisible from the outside. Granted one rarely tackles a tree trunk with a knife around the campsite unless it is a small one, but it is not outside the realm of possibility. Cutting nails is the same as cutting wire, it is just a function of diameter, correct?
     
  17. Fancier

    Fancier

    Jul 1, 2012
    Some wire and some nails are hardened, and it makes a lot of difference in how hard they are to cut.
     
  18. Standard78

    Standard78 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 25, 2015
    I don't think I'd ever intentionally cut a nail, but it's damn nice to know that I could. Kinda like an extra security blanket.
    Plus this may open up the ability to make a Scandi ground 4.1!! The knife in his video resembles a scandi grind.
     
  19. OBX351

    OBX351 Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 29, 2014
    But you might need to cut into a tin in a pinch and it's good to know that you won't kill the blade doing it. I've done it with a cheap knife, it did the job but chunked/nicked the blade up.
     
  20. AmericanAsApple3.14

    AmericanAsApple3.14 Gold Member Gold Member

    792
    Sep 10, 2014
    I saw a post somewhere talking about trade-offs in toughness vs cutting ability/wear resistance. Has anyone heard Nathan or Survive say if this new HT, which seems to have extremely impressive toughness, will result in any less cutting ability?
     

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