The Comtech Stinger

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I first saw this little device a long time ago when I viewed the Comtech Push Dagger video. Seems like an eternity ago. Maybe six or seven years now...

James Keating was talking about it as a keyring attachment and how the Stinger relates to a Push Dagger. How the Push Dagger is perhaps the ultimate thrusting weapon and the Stinger was the more socially acceptable alternative to that particular edged weapon.

You can tell I got some neat stuff UPS today, right?

I put it in my hand, it feels very comfortable. The striking point of this thing can project from between the index and middle fingers or the middle and ring finger.

It does align the bones properly to perform terrible things on an attacker without the fear of breaking your fingers/hand on someone's hard head.

I thought that it would hurt like hell, hitting something substantial with it. I figured my BaliSong activity would be hindered for the next two days as my palm recovered.

So I have the striking point between the middle and ring fingers, and I drop it on the Kitchen Table from about 10 inches, you know, almost like a straight-blast type of rolling punch, but more or less just dropped the fist on the table.

I crunched the table alright, left a nice, neat, little hole, more than an indentation...

So, this little device is alot like a Push Dagger, alot like Kelly Worden's DTL Impact Kerambit and has elements of the JSP Koppo Stick as well.

You can still grab people, etc., still retain even an open knife in that hand if that would solve the problems you would encounter, that would take some practice, but let's say instead that you have a Bic Pen in reverse grip in the same hand. Voila! Neat stuff...

Where the Stinger differs is, you can get an excellent, straight punch out of it and it will bust someone up pretty badly. And, like the Push Dagger and the other fistloads I listed, you can still hammerfist or open your hand and palm heel strike with it as well without losing it.

I think if you work Loss Prevention for a store, work Concert Security, certain jobs like that, one Stinger in each front pocket and some time dedicated with a training partner and two focus mitts would make you quite a formidable person.

If you dot someone's chin or land in their sternum, you're going to tear them up with this thing, there is no doubt in my mind. If they draw back with a haymaker and you enter and hit them in one of those two places, you are going to crumple them, simple as that.

On a more advanced level, if someone draws back and you enter and hit them in the arm, it's going to cause some dysfunction in that limb, no doubt in my mind. Same with someone throwing a straight punch at your face, if you can see it coming, always the problem with the straight punch, and this thing lands on their incoming fingers [of their fist] again, no doubt in my mind, you will break at least one finger.

Same with a backfist or backhanded slap. If this thing lands on the back of their hand, they are going to have to be chemically fueled in order to not feel it.

You cannot go wrong with this one folks.

Be aware, obviously, if you start hitting people in vitals with bare hands, you can severely injure and/or kill them. This was designed to strengthen the punch, focus and intensify it, and it works. So, obviously, if you hit someone in the temple, below the occipital bone in the back of the head [the flat area for shock transfer, flats convey shock to the brain more effectively which is precisely why the flats on the skull are more lethal targets] or in the throat/side of the neck, this would carry with it the possibility that the attacker would expire.

You could rupture vital structures in the abdomen, break ribs, etc. You don't have to be a BEAST with this thing, it does the work for you. It adds a ferocity to limb destructions that should light up your day.

For the sake of argument, let's say that you punch with say, 30 pounds of pressure from your arm, this is going to equal hundreds of pounds of pressure Per Square Inch [PSI] because the striking area is so small.

So, if you have one or you get one, be careful with it. It looks like a little cheesy piece of plastic, but it packs a wallop times ten. The kitchen table tells the tale. Here I go again, endangering my Marriage to bring you the latest and the greatest in equipment.

All of that, and my hand doesn't hurt a bit either.

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Okay, this is scary, I was about to ask the forum about the Stinger and why I should get one.

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"You are no more armed because you are wearing a pistol than you are a musician because you own a guitar." ~Jeff Cooper
And the same goes for a knife...
And, I'm a Usual Suspect.
Some of my Knives and other neat things
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Smoke:
Okay, this is scary, I was about to ask the forum about the Stinger and why I should get one.</font>

I do my best to keep up my Psychic Friends Network image Smoke.

The Comtech Stinger, along with the Cold Steel Sjambok remain the most brutally effective tools for NOTHING in the grand scheme of things. The cost is minimal with maximum impact.

 
Man, I hate the feeling of sitting on anything, ever since I was a teenager, I have never carried anything, not even a wallet, in my back pocket(s).

It's just uncomfortable and "uneven" to me, if that makes any sense.

That's why God invented Multipocket Vests...
 
Don,
I started carrying a Stinger about 2 months ago.I tyed a piece of paracord (approximately 3") in the keyring hole with several knots down it's length.It works better then attaching the split keyring.The cord makes it easier to "fish"out of the front pocket.It also assists in holding the Stinger under stress.
If you hold the Stinger between your index and middle finger, I feel you get a better grip and hand alignment.You are right.It is a very powerful tool without feeling the power when you strike.You still retain at least 50% of yur grabbing power with the Stinger in your hand.
One of my favorite techniques is a punch to the radial nerve (large muscle near the elbow) when someone grab your arm.Just placing the Stinger on the Sternum and pushing is painful enough.A hard strike there could potentially be lethal.
I molded a small piece of Kydex to cover the tip and attached a 24" ballchain.It makes a great neck carry while running.
It would be great if they would mold the Stinger out of flesh colored plastic.It would make it easier to conceal in the hand.
I carried one on a flight to New Orleans.A small ballchain was attached with my luggage keys.The metal detector went off because of the chain!I told security it must be my keys.I handed him the Stinger, walked through the detector and took it back.
If anyone out there decides to carry one, be careful.They are more powerful then they look.
Mickey
P.S. Make sure the tip is smooth(Sandpaper) and use it for accupressure.
 
Hi Guys!

I have always loved the Comtech Stinger. I always have a few extras to give to friends that are looking for a low profile defensive tool.


Don,

I'm surprised that you just now got one of these.
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Steve
 
Steve,

I know, I know...it really is effective. I just have so many pocket bashers, I have to refer back to the Multipocket Vest THANG.
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"You are no more armed because you are wearing a pistol than you are a musician because you own a guitar." ~Jeff Cooper
And the same goes for a knife...
And, I'm a Usual Suspect.
Some of my Knives and other neat things
 
I know there are a lot of yawara and "knuckle" or push dagger type striking instruments around, but so far I haven't heard anyone comment on the old "Watch Cat" keychain or it's modern interpretation, the "WildCat" keychain. The old one was made of aluminum and looked like the face of a cat. One's fingers (mainly meant for female fingers) went through the "eyes" and the relatively sharp "ears" were to strike, rake or gouge with. The "WildCat" is of a similar (though not exact) cat face design, and is made out of a tough plastic/polymer material which comes in several colors.

In our college S-D classes, and with the exception of OC sprays, most people (95% women) are not interested in weapons per se, but we usually get requests on where to buy the WildCat keychains. Once, I sold an Executive Ice Scraper to a nice Russian immigrant lady. (She REALLY wanted it, I didn't push it on her.) Later, she moved to California. Unfortunately, I then found out AFTERWARDS from Newt Livesay's website that they are ILLEGAL in CA! Oops!
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Hope she doesn't get in trouble...

We show students the WildCats on "weapons day," when we drag the big black bag into class and have "show and tell" with just about everything but real guns.
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Anyone have any comments on the WildCat/Watch Cat "jewelry?"

See them at:

http://www.selfdefenseproducts.com

BTW, J&L seems like a neat place. I've ordered a few things from them before, and students who have done so are not disappointed either. On the other hand, the owner seems to like stun guns a little too much!

Karl
 
I think this item would be firmly placed in the "Brass or other Knuckle Category" in more Draconian Areas. (No, I'm not kidding).

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As for the effectiveness of it, what have you struck with it to see if you could break the ears?

I would have to hold one in my hand to see and feel the thickness and stiffness of the plastic, etc., drive it through some meat or something.

The metal ones must be really nasty, and probably better because of the thinner structure that forms the ears.

Pretty neat.

I think that if a woman wants to carry it, that's about it! I think that people should be able to carry what they want, various hand weapons, up to and including .40, .45 and .357 Caliber Handguns.
 
Yes, I have been meaning to order a couple pair of knuckles from Mr. Knuckles. They look very good.

Be advised, however, that telling a Police Officer that is a "Bottle Opener" is not going to keep you out of the handcuffs in most States.

They're Brass [metal] Knuckles, period. Don't make the mistake of thinking that the law only addresses the "Classic Design" of brass knuckles with four finger holes, etc., it does not work that way.
 
Don, one of our assistants has hit wooden surfaces with it pretty hard with no problems. He also bent one in half in front of me with no apparent ill effects. It seemed about as stiff as it had before. Yes, it will bend, but not break in "normal use" (whatever that might be
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). My guess is it's an improvement over the aluminum version, depending on how brittle the aluminum was (I don't have any of these, nor have I tested them, although I've handled them awhile back).

They are very lightweight and at 2/$10 not too expensive. I've always described them as a "feminized" version of brass knuckles.

Someone who is mentally prepared to attack facial or other sensitive areas with one is probably well served with it, although it is not as structurally as rigid as a Stinger or an Ex. Ice Scraper. For more rigidity, I suppose you could attach two of them together with wire or glue. And like push daggers, Stingers, scrapers, it would be hard to "take away and use against you." I wouldn't mind seeing some sort of kydex neck rig for it, or at least a break away string.

I also made the point this quarter that even these cute thingys would undoubtedly be confiscated in Canada, at airline checkpoints, and a few other places.

(Whenever I can, I like to make the connection between "weapon" laws and laws restricting OC sprays, Kubotans, and Wildcat keychains, etc. After all, these laws are enacted with the same useless goal in mind: to disarm the good folks.)

Karl


 
Don...
Okay, gotta chime in here...
lotsa toys in my house...
have the Keepsafe from Chas...it's a bit large for my finger so i'm gonna sell it.
Have two "Bottle openers" from Mr.Knuckles- one in brass and one in aluminum...
Don, if you buy one of these, go with the thinner models, they still do the job and don't weigh the pockets down as much (i had my brass 1/2" one cut down in two by a local metal shop- let the guy keep one half)...the aluminum in 1/4" is excellent...also, i had Mr.Knuckles put a small hole in the handle/base for a loop of paracord, it would be the death-blow if caught by LEOs, but does make retrieval much easier...the brass one that i cut in half is light enough now...
The "Cats claws"- i have given one to my wife and one to my mother- they won't carry anything else but find these to be "cute enough" to carry (kinda like how we feel about derringers and such!).
After getting the Keepsafe i also had a custom leather "sap" made by Chas Clements- something else i'm gonna sell, but it's the finest example of sap-work i've seen in years (yes, he's very good) and it will last a long, long time...you'd need medium-glove-sized hands for it to fit correctly since the thumb loop's custom made...
Also, from Mr.Knuckles you can get those hard "plastic" knuckles...i've got two- one in the clear and one in the white plastic...these are very hard hitters (he's since discontinued one kind, i'm not sure which- i just received an e-mail ad from him and will have to check)... he will make any brass model you see on the site into a plastic one and I would highly recommend the "bottle opener" model if you can get it in white plastic. They can hit very hard...the problem is that these plastic ones are made for Large hands so i've left them in the dresser drawer for now...if you are interested in any of these items, just let me know- i'll let any of them go for a very reasonable price- except the aluminum bottle opener- just check what they cost new and we'll figure it out- all are as good as new...
I'd also be willing to trade something above for a Comtech Stinger, i'm a bit intrigued by them and had forgotten about them until this post...i'd take a loss on it since most of these toys are just sitting in my dresser...you can reach me at kchwastyk@msn.com
Kelvin, how ya doing? How's the Arnis?

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Hello!

I've wanted one of those Stingers for a while, now it seems that i cannot be without one
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(or two...) too bad that it's messy ordering one from the USA
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Alost everytime these things are discussed, someone mentions acupressure, does anyone know of any net based resource on this subject??
When i get one i'd love to be able to do some of this.

Any help appreciated
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