The current 'Tactical Custom Folder' market = HOTTEST ever?

SharpByCoop said:
Jim Skelton is a YouTube proponent and reviewer.
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Jim Skelton?!? :eek:

Please tell me that people do not buy knives based on anything that Jim Skelton says. :greedy_dollars:

If that is an example of what is driving the tactical market, I am thinking it is going to be due for a market correction at one point.
 
The Virginian said:
Jim Skelton?!? :eek:

Please tell me that people do not buy knives based on anything that Jim Skelton says. :greedy_dollars:

If that is an example of what is driving the tactical market, I am thinking it is going to be due for a market correction at one point.
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I think there Jim exhibits the most influence is in new makers. If a new maker gets spotlighted on his channel, they are pretty set for a while.

There are a few makers who will remain nameless that would be NO WHERE NEAR as in demand as they are if not for Jim's influence.
 
Scurvy092 said:
It's all about rarity. The Kershaw you are talking about was probably the ZT0888. There are a LOT more Diskin Fires in the world than ZT0888s. Secondary market pricing is all about exclusivity and the popularity of the maker.
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that's the one.
as far as I know, there are only 450 or so Fires.
 
Lorien said:
that's the one.
as far as I know, there are only 450 or so Fires.
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Compared to 212 0888s as of now.

That and Fires and not terribly hard to come by. ZT0888s are basically unicorns right now. The demand for them is higher (just being honest as a huge Diskin and ZT fanboy) and there are less of them, hence the much higher price. Not saying it's right or correct, just the way it is.
 
Lorien said:
so how high up can this stuff go?
Am I alone in thinking that this is a bubble?
The pricing seems to be somewhat arbitrary and in many cases, ludicrously high. I saw a Kershaw folder on the secondary going for $2K+ and meanwhile, you can pick up a Diskin Fire new from a dealer for like 600 bucks.
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Rarity, demand, maker wait time. The Kershaw is probably the craziest example. AZCK had one listed for 28** I think? Double, triple order cost is not uncommon.
The Virginian said:
Jim Skelton?!? :eek:

Please tell me that people do not buy knives based on anything that Jim Skelton says. :greedy_dollars:

If that is an example of what is driving the tactical market, I am thinking it is going to be due for a market correction at one point.
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I guarantee you Jim sells knives. His reviews sell knives, his IG sells knives. Like it or not, he spreads the word.
 
When I posted up the Skelton Fire review I had no idea who he was :)

I just thought it was a good review

I googled him and saw the buzz on him getting fired etc

Takes all types I guess :)
 
JParanee said:
When I posted up the Skelton Fire review I had no idea who he was :)

I just thought it was a good review

I googled him and saw the buzz on him getting fired etc

Takes all types I guess :)
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I don't think he got fired, he just posted an IG pic of him on set with the same girl and was on TV just last week. He has monthly sales too where he gets rid of some of those knives pretty much at table value I hear. I'm not sure what to make of him, my jury is still out. He does a good review though.


It's nice to see all those guys succeed though. Ray Laconico is a great example too! It will be interesting to see where we are a year from now. I think we'll have more makers, by double at least. The world can see what can be done with a relatively simple toolset and other people are going to give it a try. I'd love to see some of these makers go mid-tech too and keep the cost down.
 
JParanee said:
When I posted up the Skelton Fire review I had no idea who he was :)

I just thought it was a good review

I googled him and saw the buzz on him getting fired etc

Takes all types I guess :)
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Don't believe everything you read on the internet. Stories come and go, but what remains constant is the fact that I have a squeaky clean record through my entire life.

Also, the worst stories, spread by one particularly tenacious person, were fully recanted several months ago publicly. Too bad it took 5 years and a lot of strife in mine and my family's life for that to happen.

I have worked hard to earn the trust I have built in this community, and worked hard to succeed in my life (both personally and in my career & businesses).
 
I am sure you have Jim and I look forward to seeing you at Blade

Come by the DISKIN USA booth.

Like I said great reviews

I really want you to see the new Flipper
 
Lets remove the Skelton issues from this thread please. I think we can talk about his impact but that's about it

I think we need more makers, with more open books! I love tactical flippers - the price and market right now is almost driving me back to production knives though.

So many knives, so little time and money!
 
Mr. Clean said:
Lets remove the Skelton issues from this thread please. I think we can talk about his impact but that's about it

I think we need more makers, with more open books! I love tactical flippers - the price and market right now is almost driving me back to production knives though.

So many knives, so little time and money!
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You can make a request, but it will likely be ignored.

We talk about everything, and that includes the "warts and all" aspect.

It is interesting if a personage is having an impact on the knife community, and all aspects of that personage should be discussed.

I "like" tactical flippers, but I like many aspects of knives in general. Purchases in the last 12 months have included some Microtechs, some production knives, a John W. Smith F5 with beautiful ironwood scales, and two tremendous Brian Tighe knives, a Tighe Rade and a Tighe Coon. The prices on these knives was reasonable, and in Brian's case, the wait was not long at all.

The prices and market right now are being driven by fanboys with more money than sense.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Steve, I partially agree. I just don't want to see the discussion degrade and stray off topic.

Tighe and Smith are great examples of well built knives that don't have the cult following. You'll see immediate depreciation usually.

I also agree With the fanboy comment, but is that what drives most prices? Ultimately it's supply and demand.
 
Mr. Clean said:
Steve, I partially agree. I just don't want to see the discussion degrade and stray off topic.

Tighe and Smith are great examples of well built knives that don't have the cult following. You'll see immediate depreciation usually.

I also agree With the fanboy comment, but is that what drives most prices? Ultimately it's supply and demand.
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Not been my experience on the Smith knives....I have made money on every one that I have sold.....which has been 8 over the last 10 years....three of those were purchased directly from John. I currently own three, one of them was EDC carry(one of the best ever), John worked his mojo on it, and it is now resting comfortably.

I also carried an R.J. Martin for four years and sold it for more than I paid for it. Someday, John and Brian will get the love that R.J. gets now, and those knives that depreciate today will go for stupid prices tomorrow.

It is not ultimately supply and demand...it is ultimately TIMING the drives those prices.....people who cannot or will not wait will pay anything to scratch that itch, rather than doing the homework required to beat the market.

What is driving the lather for Terzuola knives right now? Up until 18 months ago, many collectors didn't even know who Bob T was. That one I don't have an answer for. I think he is an absolute pioneer and the ATCF in original form is the paradigm for "gray turd" and that is said with awe and affection.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Bob's knives, at the right time, just like Dozier's, are going to go the Top.
rolf
 
Kohai999 said:
It is not ultimately supply and demand...it is ultimately TIMING the drives those prices.....people who cannot or will not wait will pay anything to scratch that itch, rather than doing the homework required to beat the market.
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that there is a GREAT point.

My feeling is that desire for overpriced items, like those being talked about, has almost nothing to do with the item itself and almost everything to do with the esoteric 'status' that comes with owning something in high demand. I've always been totally confused as to why some people put such a high value on status, especially as it relates to things that they own.
 
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