The dagger I've started

tryppyr

tryppyr

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In my other thread I mentioned that I was going to start working on a dagger blank I made two years ago. I wanted to post a pic here to see if anyone happens to remember selling me the billet and can tell me what metals were used (so I can get it properly heat treated). Worse to worse, I'll just say it was 1095 and 15N20... but something tells me that ain't right.

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tryppyr said:
In my other thread I mentioned that I was going to start working on a dagger blank I made two years ago. I wanted to post a pic here to see if anyone happens to remember selling me the billet and can tell me what metals were used (so I can get it properly heat treated). Worse to worse, I'll just say it was 1095 and 15N20... but something tells me that ain't right.

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Did you buy it from HHH by chance?
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...hen-knife-in-damascus?p=13046440#post13046440

Found this old thread on a kitchen knife you made. The mix you cited there was 1080/15n20.
 
Too late now, but the first error was grinding a side steel billet to a point. You should have done a butterfly weld ( or had someone do it for you). That would have made the edge steel follow all the way around the tip evenly.

Any carbon steel mix should harden with a basic HT.
 
I think that's the one, Andrew. Now that you mention it, I believe this was an HHH billet.

As for the first mistake, I see what you're saying... but I have no means to do that, so I'll do what I always do... the best I can with what I've got. I'm still excited to see it finished. And I'm certain the first mistake won't be the last. Hey, I'm two years out of practice. ;)
 
Hey Greg, what's up man! I was wondering where you'd been. Good to see you on here making knives again!
 
Hi Salem. Good to see you again too.

I never stopped wishing I could have stayed in WA, but I guess it's safe to say I'm fully resettled north of Houston. I even placed another order with Gilmer Wood (which is a bit of a milestone and an indicator I'll be doing some work). It's been a weird 2 years, and the weirdness does not seem to be over, so I figured I'd ground myself in an old familiar hobby again. :)
 
Good to see you again Greg.
Live can be weird, you can shelter from it in a workshop every now and then
Looking forewards to see work from you again
 
By the way I have made a lot of knives, and a lot of progress with that blackwood you sent me a few years back... thanks again.
Your dagger there would have looked cool with a bird's beak weld at the tip, but having a hardenable twist core coming out at the tip in a symmetrical fashion like that might b pretty cool too, especially since the twist is so bold.
Perhaps you will find a way to compliment that pattern flow out the point, with fittings and handle choice?
 
Hi Hengelo. Good to see you too... I need to look around and see what you've been making.


Salem, yes, that's the plan. I've only begun to think about the guard, but I still have a fair amount of handle material to use including figured natural and stabilized wood, ivory (including that very colorful fossil piece).

Glad to learn the blackwood still serves you. It might amuse you to learn I bought a long log slice before I left WA, and brought it with me. The only thing I've made from it so far was a sign that my wife wanted made for her brother... a sort of inside joke. He loved it so I guess that part of the log was well spent. The rest remains in the shop.

One thing is certain... two years away from the grinder means that the meager skills I had developed in Sammamish are now going to have to be redeveloped. Oh well, that's part of the fun.
 
Hi Greg.
I'm positive that bar was made by Rob Calcinore. It is mosaic Damascus. I don't tyhink Rany Haas is doing any mosaic yet and as well I believe I had some of that exact pattern from Calcinore. It will take a carbon steel hardening.
Frank
 
Thanks, Frank. I'll definitely get Peters to do it the standard carbon steel way.
 
Spent a couple of hours at the grinder today and got the primary bevels done... all 4 of them. It was good practice, and it went better than I had any reason to expect... but now that the primary removal is done, it's time to go slower... so I'll switch to hand sanding and see if that helps me address the errors I made with the grinder.

Oh, I am also considering using a forum member to do the heat treatment (since I still have no oven). Anyone want the work? Can't say you'll get rich off me, but I might crank out a few more. ;)
 
We do quite a bit of heat treating for blade forums members and would love to work with your blades.
 
Greg,when it's ready come over and we will get it hot and dunk it in some oil.
 
Thanks, Stan. I'll take you up on that offer. Looking forward to seeing your shop, too.
 
It isn't too late to do a butterfly weld on the tip. I bet Stan would be glad to do it for you. It would shorten the blade a tad, but the result will be far better looking.
 
I'll keep that in mind if I ever use another billet like this one. Since I've already ground this one, I'm going to finish it as is.
 
I'm really looking forward to this! I remember watching your builds before I started knifemaking, your work is a big inspiration.
 
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