The Dirty Trick Sawback 12!!! . . . Is Alive!!! . .

I have been busy tonight.. glad to see I didn't ghost Jerry. I was looking forward to these saw facts though.
 
Well, I consulted with Johnnie Walker, and we did quite a bit of in-depth research only to discover that Snardvark really knows his stuff when it comes to saws. I applaud you my friend!

However, the rules that apply to other saws don't necessarily apply to the DTS-12 due primarily to its location and its enormous thickness. It would be near impossible to find a hand-held saw that measures over 1/4" thick that doesn't have a motor and a chain hooked to it! Luckily, the blade of the DTS-12 has a full-height flat grind, making the top of the saw tooth the widest part of the tooth and giving it immediate clearance beneath.

Over the years, we have extensively tested different sawtooth designs and configurations that can be added to the spine of a large knife blade, and have found this design to be the most effective for what they were designed for. We have not found rearward canted teeth, in this particular tooth design, to work as well for a number of reasons. First and foremost is the thickness of the blade. These saw teeth are basically like having a row of quarter-inch wide wood chisels all lined up and ready to go! The DTS-12 teeth are very aggressive, so they dig in deep and fast. It is much easier to get these teeth to dig in and to keep moving if you can put your body weight behind them on a push rather than with a pull.

Second, The DTS-12 is a long blade and the further from the handle you get, the harder it is to increase the pressure where the saw is making contact. Rearward canted teeth, in this application, make it much more difficult to get the saw to dig in as deep and as quickly along the entire length of the blade because you can't put the weight behind it.

Bottom line: The saw blade on the DTS-12 cannot really be compared to saw blades whose only function is to quickly saw through wood or steel. The forward canted teeth are the most efficient design that we have tested so far for the intended application and if and when we find a better design, we will start using it.

Important note: After you get done using your DTS-12 sawback for the first time, you must hold it high and cry to the sky, "I came, I SAW, I conquered!"

Let's Drink!

Jerry

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Jerry Busse said:
Well, I consulted with Johnnie Walker, and we did quite a bit of in-depth research only to discover that Snardvark really knows his stuff when it comes to saws. I applaud you my friend!

However, the rules that apply to other saws don't necessarily apply to the DTS-12 due primarily to its location and its enormous thickness. It would be near impossible to find a hand-held saw that measures over 1/4" thick that doesn't have a motor and a chain hooked to it! Luckily, the blade of the DTS-12 has a full-height flat grind, making the top of the saw tooth the widest part of the tooth and giving it immediate clearance beneath.

Over the years, we have extensively tested different sawtooth designs and configurations that can be added to the spine of a large knife blade, and have found this design to be the most effective for what they were designed for. We have not found rearward canted teeth, in this particular tooth design, to work as well for a number of reasons. First and foremost is the thickness of the blade. These saw teeth are basically like having a row of quarter-inch wide wood chisels all lined up and ready to go! The DTS-12 teeth are very aggressive, so they dig in deep and fast. It is much easier to get these teeth to dig in and to keep moving if you can put your body weight behind them on a push rather than with a pull.

Second, The DTS-12 is a long blade and the further from the handle you get, the harder it is to increase the pressure where the saw is making contact. Rearward canted teeth, in this application, make it much more difficult to get the saw to dig in as deep and as quickly along the entire length of the blade because you can't put the weight behind it.

Bottom line: The saw blade on the DTS-12 cannot really be compared to saw blades whose only function is to quickly saw through wood or steel. The forward canted teeth are the most efficient design that we have tested so far for the intended application and if and when we find a better design, we will start using it.

Important note: After you get done using your DTS-12 sawback for the first time, you must hold it high and cry to the sky, "I came, I SAW, I conquered!"

Let's Drink!

Jerry

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High praise indeed! Thank you. In honesty I hadn't taken into account the thickness of the spine difference of the knife vs. saw. I was strictly speaking on the way different tooth patterns act through wood, and the application of different handles from my experience.

I do have a Sawmandu, but haven't yet had the pleasure of using it.. so I have no context on how something that thick acts through wood as all my saws are well.. saws lol. Though I will concede the grinds on these are quite aggressive. If the DT is the same I doubt anyone will have much; if any; complaints.

I will try to pick one of these up secondary I suppose considering I can't spend any money right now (identity thieves and such). Until then l'll have to just bite the bullet, and use my Sawmandu (I will miss the beautiful cerakote).

I'll be sure to wear the grippy gloves... though your new grippy Res-C is truely a wonder. The stuff fuses to your hand in use (judging from the original versions handle anywho.. hoping this is the same recipe) so I may just be being overly cautious. I will have to test the "long blade.. hard to increase pressure" portion to understand what you mean as all my straight handle saws are exclusively pull saws, but I get the idea in theory.

I appreciate the response, and want to reiterate I meant no disrespect. No negative connotations intended at all. Just a lover of saws. I like the "row of quarter-inch wood chisels all lined up" portion. Got me a little hot to trot. Makes me wanna see just how well it chews ๐Ÿ˜

Side note: Tell Johnny I said Hi
 
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Got my order in, this is going to be a fun knife!
 
Itโ€™s a Sawbackโ€ฆ..who can resist? Not me, Iโ€™m in! Looking forward to it.
 
Jerry Busse said:
Johnnie and I are having a "production meeting" today with my old buddy Mike Thourot, once we are able to drag him out of the Crab Shack! I'll pass along your kind regards to both Johnnie and Mike!

Let's Drink!

Jerry

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10-4 Bussman (actually kinda like the ring of that) you a fine night good sir ๐Ÿ˜

Hope everyone enjoys this one, and that secondary isn't a massive markup ๐Ÿคž
 
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Order in :)
 
So maybe I got two ๐Ÿคฃ just can't resist these saw backs for some reason and the handle on the DT-12 has quickly become a favorite. Feels so good and secure when using. I was skeptical at first but I'm a believer now. So light for its size and such power. Holding and swinging it next to my B11 I would ๐Ÿ’ฏ% pick the DT-12 as my "one".

This sawback is going to make it a touch lighter so what's not to love? Sleeping on this one would be a mistake imo. Shit, I may need to get one more for a ๐ŸŽ
 
Just got the last call and pulled the trigger.

Anyone have intel on shipping timeframe or is it the normal โ€œ2 weeksโ€?
 
Geoff said:
Just got the last call and pulled the trigger.

Anyone have intel on shipping timeframe or is it the normal โ€œ2 weeksโ€?
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I had a last second calling to get in on this when last call came, had a bit of a struggle to pass on what may likely be the only sawback knife Busse produces for another decade or two given past history with similar offerings. Seeing as the old Battle Saw I had years ago almost never comes up for sale on the secondary market, I don't want to regret this one as I currently have no sawback knives and the last I bought was the Battle Saw. Not to mention the mass distribution on these are stellar.

I can't help but imagine I was one of the last orders being that I ordered well after last call was announced. That said, I did get dinged on Saturday for this order which suprised me as I had only been dinged a few days ago for the OMG-15. Maybe those who order last get dinged first, lol. Anybody else get a ding yet? Also worth noting, it's probably been close to 20 years since there was a release of Double Cut SR-101. Better keep these well oiled with protectant fellas!
 
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