The Elitist's War on Bushcraft: Part II !!! SERRATIONS!!!

[averageiowaguy]

At Blade 2 or 3 years before that, I met Lynn C. Thompson. He was very professional and actually talkative. His entourage, not so much. I've got several Spyderco products, and I still think they have some of, if not the best, overall serrations out there.

OK I'm gonna make a confession. My dad has bought me only a 3 knives in my life. The first was my first knife. It was a Buck Woodsman, or whatever the early 1980's version of that was. I don't see it in their current lineup. Every fixed blade I've owned since then has been measured by that stick. That knife is still around somewhere, but it is buried in his house somewhere. I'll get it back someday.

The second was a Santa Fe Knifeworks dress folder. I still have it, although the turquoise insert fell out. When I was in highschool, I bought a piece of jade, learned how to cut an polish gemstones, and replaced the piece of turquoise with the piece of jade. It isn't a fantastic knife but it still has meaning.

The third was a Spyderco Delica (model number?) in Stainless. It had half the blade in serrations. It was the first 'high dollar' folder anyone ever gave me. I carried it for years and years. The serrations never bothered me, except that I couldn't resharpen the serrations because I lacked the skill. The handle was engraved with a family saying that wouldn't mean anything to anyone else. One day I was in the Barnes and Noble Bookstore at the Jordan Creek Mall in Des Moines, Iowa. I stopped by their Seattle's Best Coffee shop with my wife. I perused the selection of magazines, bought a couple books. One of them was an Ayn Rand novel. When we arrived at the car, the knife was gone. I went back to B&N, searched the whole store, asked the managers, put my name on a list etc. Then I retraced every step I ever made through the mall. I never found it. Serrations and all, I miss that knife more than any other knife I've ever used. Probably most of that is for sentimental reasons, but it was a really good knife that fit me at the time.

 

[Sam Wilson]

I'm pretty sure Morrow was throwing a little humor in there also, seeing the levity in the situation. Either way, it was funny.

 

[Skrapmetal]

What can I say? I'm so funny that I get laughs even when I'm not trying.

...that doesn't sound like such a good thing now that I think about it.

 

[Sam Wilson]

AIG, sounds like you should view the situation, wait for it, OBJECTIVELY. Just messin, sorry for the loss. That stinks.

 

[Sam Wilson]

What can I say? I'm so funny that I get laughs even when I'm not trying.

...that doesn't sound like such a good thing now that I think about it.

My problem is that happens to me when I'm not fully dressed.

 

[Skrapmetal]

My personal distaste for serrations probably comes from using a Cold Steel Recon 1 knife for carving wood... I was carving with the serrations, and they actually started chipping off and breaking in the wood. It wasn't even very hard wood, either. I think 3 teeth had broken off by the time I noticed.

I could have had a bad knife, of course (it was a Cold Steel ). The tip of the knife broke off under fairly mild abuse a few weeks later.

 

[Samon]

function over fashion my ol' chums, made by a knife company who aren't trying to sell tacticool junk to middle aged men!

Not a fan of them myself, particularly the ones that can't be sharpened on a flat stone, for obvious reasons.

 

[Ulfhedinn]

Never saw that Spyderco ad until now. Pretty neat.

As for the Tracker, not my cup of tea, but it probably works fine I suspect, if you learn how it needs to be used, like most things.

I think at some point, if you keep an open mind, you figure out that you can use anything you can make sharp. It might not be ideal, it might not be what you want, but it can work.

 

[Insipid Moniker]

This series reminds me of all the stuff I did with knives before I knew a darn thing about them. Things that I learned on the internet were dumb, abusive and not using the right tool for the job. Of course by now I'm back to being a dumb, abusive tool, so hey, whatever works.

 

[Sam Wilson]

The tip of the knife broke off under fairly mild abuse a few weeks later.

I am going to have to remember that phrase for my next warranty claim. Ha ha

 

[Sam Wilson]

This series reminds me of all the stuff I did with knives before I knew a darn thing about them. Things that I learned on the internet were dumb, abusive and not using the right tool for the job. Of course by now I'm back to being a dumb, abusive tool, so hey, whatever works.

Hey, here at War on Bushcraft, we put the US in abusive!

 

[Woods Walker]

Someone could always pack two knives, one with serrations. I done it myslef but guessing taking more than one knife is old hat for bladeforums. LOL!

 

[zpstl321]

Yet another example of why you don't want serations...

[video=youtube;VGCTI9xG2J8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGCTI9xG2J8[/video]

 

[JV3]

i like serrations - most of my knives are serrated...alright, they're really chips but that's splitting hairs!

 

[Mr.Black]

WOW Not sure if I need to even go by the intro lol

Serrations Not that it matters but heres the way I see it
I say I'm Allergic to them but the fact is I dont really care that much If I opened a Survival kit and it was stocked with a Serrated blade I would make it work would I stock them for myself ...No do I have some Yes. Benchmade Rescue lives on the Harness
SpydercoFolding Rescue Pro reworked to a straight edge now its Great...anyway

atlatls have smoked more Beast than Guns if you look at the time line of use same with stone blades the were and are serrated I love making and using them and the key is they are easy to touch up I was not good at doing that with steel even with a bunch of specialized sharpening gear.If you got a edge and know how to use it you can knock out a Ewok village or the finest spoon

I haven't seen the attack and am not really sure what the deal is some love em some dont I still think it just boils down Learn how to use and improvise a edge If its a Pop Pick of the week or a Tracker Knife It shouldn't matter if you have any clue on what you doing

as far as any PMs I have sent Months ago on another forum "being saved for future use" thats just Weird
I will gladly post the whole thing here to explain the Kicking over the Fire comment

Hope to particapate here and if I didnt get Honorable mention I may of just popped in to see the pretty Knives

Take care
M/BK

 

[Morrow]

WOW Not sure if I need to even go by the intro lol

Serrations Not that it matters but heres the way I see it
I say I'm Allergic to them but the fact is I dont really care that much If I opened a Survival kit and it was stocked with a Serrated blade I would make it work would I stock them for myself ...No do I have some Yes. Benchmade Rescue lives on the Harness
SpydercoFolding Rescue Pro reworked to a straight edge now its Great...anyway

atlatls have smoked more Beast than Guns if you look at the time line of use same with stone blades the were and are serrated I love making and using them and the key is they are easy to touch up I was not good at doing that with steel even with a bunch of specialized sharpening gear.If you got a edge and know how to use it you can knock out a Ewok village or the finest spoon

I haven't seen the attack and am not really sure what the deal is some love em some dont I still think it just boils down Learn how to use and improvise a edge If its a Pop Pick of the week or a Tracker Knife It shouldn't matter if you have any clue on what you doing

as far as any PMs I have sent Months ago on another forum "being saved for future use" thats just Weird
I will gladly post the whole thing here to explain the Kicking over the Fire comment

Hope to particapate here and if I didnt get Honorable mention I may of just popped in to see the pretty Knives

Take care
M/BK

Please do NOT post the whole thing here. Read my earlier posts in this thread.

 

[IA Woodsman]

LOL! And yes, I did laugh out loud. I wonder if they get an extra manscout badge for layering Zamfir over the demonstration of a knee-high pile of wood logs split down to pencil lead size. You better put some Zamfir in the video when you're using the Bear Grylls knife. I need to see 3 buckets full of pencil lead sized wood, 3 buckets of pencil sized wood and 3 buckets of thumb sized wood for your 10 minute fire to cook bacon and boil water for coffee.

I can understand why you feel the way you do AIG. I thought you were unfairly treated. I also know that patches and internet certifications are not for everyone. In the big picture they mean nothing. The standards that you are referring to for firecraft are there for a reason. They work. It has been proven many times over. Is it always necessary? Nope, not even close. I know It does not take all that prep to build a cooking fire. The main reason the standards are set high is that people are generally lazy. They like to cut corners. If the students were told to make 3 times the prep, you would be lucky to get enough to make one fire. In this realm people love to use their tools, be in the woods, and share what they are doing . They usually go overboard on prep. I think you can understand that.

Carbon1- I remember in the early 90's the BX started carrying Gerber "Gator" folding knives. They had a partial serration. A lot of instructors bought them and taught feather sticks and shavings with those stainless steel, plastic handled, serrated pocket knives to many students. Glad it works well for you. Thanks for demonstrating that it is not always the tool that gets the job done.

 

[caine]

I am not a great fan of serrations. Atlease not on the main edge, But I can say that I used a Spyderco Rescue and bushcrafted this Humvee in about 10mins or so.

 

[knife hunter]

Love that pic caine. Iv built ton of blinds for hunting. You take hunting to a much higher level:thumbup:

Thank you

 

[OwenM]

It would be less obvious if it wasn't blocking the road
I was 11H, too. Glad someone has pics, I got nada from back then.