The fickle finger of fate.

My first knife was a Camillus stockman that my grandfather gave me for Christmas when I was in the second grade. My father taught me how to sharpen it and impressed on me the importance of keeping it sharp. I switched to a Buck 110 when I was working for the Forest Service when I was in my 20s and needed something larger and more robust. The 110 was also my kitchen knife, my table knife, my hunting knife, etc. It was my only knife for many years. When folks ask "If you could only have one knife . . ." My first thought is always the Buck 110 because it was my only knife for so many years and I know it is up to the task. I do sometimes tho back fondly on my younger days which, like Jackknife's, were much simpler, but I also appreciate the variety and number of choices we have these days.

Now I think that in honor of the old days I am going to go pull out a 110 and carry it for the day. It's my day to cook, so it will at least see some kitchen time, but I imagine there will be a few other tasks for it to take care of.

Thanks to everyone for sharing their memories!
 
In many cases, me included in that, it is a emotional connection. A connection to a simpler time where the gray area was much much more narrow and the black and white areas were much much broader. There was right and wrong and people were held to a higher standard. To me, the simple slip joint represents a time where people did amazing things like survive a Great Depression and fight a world war, then come home and become delivery truck drivers, store managers, construction workers, office personal, and even teachers. They didn't make a big deal out of things, and just went about life no matter if it was good or bad.

I've watched the birth and growth of the 'new' modern one hand wonder knives and the tactical gun thing with a very jaundiced eye. I admit to being prejudiced against a lot of the 'new and improved moue traps' that have been brought out. I see them much as fishing lures that have nothing to do with catching fish, as much as catching the dollar bills out of the Fishermans pocket.

Maybe growing up around men like my Uncle Charlie who waded ashore at Normandy, or my Uncle Mike who got a PT boat shot out from under him in the English Channel had an influence on me. Uncle Charles carried his old Camillus TL-29 his whole life. My Uncle Mike carried his navy issued Camillus stockman until all three blades were worn down to pointy toothpicks. These men were the hero to me, and they had a huge influence on what I did and what I used.

Yeah, I guess when I look at an old jack or pen, or Barlow, I think of a time past that seemed better in many ways than now. An emotional trigger.

Jackknife I've always enjoyed your musings. I'm 'only' 45 and despite growing up in a culture (the UK) which is quite different to the US there are many things you say that resonate with me and my childhood.
Maybe because my parents were quite old when they had me, but I grew up surrounded by people who were old enough to me my grandparents. I also spent a lot of time on my grandads farm and my dad was farmer until I was about 6. You were never bored, there was always a 'job' to be done and you were expected to get on with it. If not, you just got turfed out into the fields so you didn't annoy grandad.

I agree with what you say about 'the greatest generation'. My own mother grew up in Liverpool in WWII. Despite all the alternate history rubbish bandied about these days many children were not evacuated from British cities during WWII, so she lived right through the 'Blitz' of Liverpool. Whole neighbourhoods were wiped from the map. Then next morning they got up, my mum went to school and her mum went to pack parachutes. Life carried on I guess.
It's interesting to read about all the old poachers and hunters who lived real hard lives. My grandad's farmhouse kitchen was just like it. A constant stream of chaps who led ordinary lives but who had done extraordinary things. Len Pfeiffer was the landlord of the pub next door, but had served as one of Orde Wingate's Chindits in Burma in 1942/43. Harry Baxter, a real gentleman, three insertions into northern France with SOE, and then parachuted into Normandy before D-Day as a member of one of the Jedburgh teams. Wilf Taylor, sniper at Monte Cristo in Italy. My own grandad (actually my mum's step-dad) flew Lancaster and Blenheim bombers in Europe, Italy and the Far East. And then there was a chap called Syd Taylor who'd spent ?2 years on the Railroad of Death in Burma as a POW.

So maybe it's all the above, but I certainly understand and completely agree with what you say about modern society. How it just doesn't compare with what came before; where standing on the shoulders of giants. My best mate thinks I was born 40 years to late, but it's just because we had wildly different upbringings. I was bought up by people who'd flown bombing runs over Berlin (and contrary to what some have said on here talked openly about it), he was bought up by the free-love generation.

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This is my dad's pocket knife. He did own other knives but they lived in a draw; it was this one Richard's camp knife that saw him through 39 years of farming, living with the Bedouin for 6 months in the Egyptian desert, evading Syrian border guards who were trying to kill him, one marriage, four kids two houses. All without a single complaint.

Finally I like what you say about the modern mousetrap. There is a belief in modern society that because we have the internet, smartphones and 50inch tv's that somehow were better. An improvement on what's come before. But that's not true is it. All these 'modern' conveniences we've all been conned into thinking are vital to modern existence have actually made ours lives more complex. I think of automobiles, computers, automated call centres, internet banking, chip n pin cards.....
So I was surprised to learn that someone has quantified this. I'd never heard of it but I always wondered if there was actual name for it.

Hutber's Law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutber's_law
 
How did that shotgun barrel get bent?!--KV
LoL... in my younger years I wasn't the most careful person and that incident involved an ATV, ratchet straps and a tree too close to the trail :D I didn't even realize the barrel was bent and a little while later I spotted some grouse up ahead on the trail... I quickly loaded it, raised the barrel to aim and then started laughing. My uncle was with me and he said "just aim to the left!" :rolleyes:
 
I am a bit offended by some of the comments about how the current generation is a mere shadow of previous generations because of the wars they fought. One of my acquaintances at work had most of his spine rebuilt after his original spine was destroyed by an ied in Afghanistan. My son found his best friend's corpse after the vehicle he was riding in got blown up by an ied. My son would normally have been in that vehicle and was supposed to be in his friend's wedding when they returned from Iraq in a month. He had two other friends who took shrapnel through the head from a grenade that was dropped on top of their Bradley. My son was sitting next to them. Both of those men survived, and all of these guys are leading productive lives.

Yes, life is more complicated now, but we still have young men going off to fight, coming back with undescribable physical and emotional scars, and getting on with life just the same as their forefathers did, and I respect today's veterans just as much as I respect the veterans of previous generations. I know that there was a special bond between my son who fought in Iraq, my uncles who were in WWII and Vietnam, and my dad who was in Korea - just a quiet acknowledgement that they all respected what they others had been through.

edit to add knife-related content. My son's EDC is a Victorinox Tinker that his father-in-law gave him, he has another traditional that I gave him, his hunting knife is a Dozier that fits his hands better than mine, and his chopper is a Golok.
He doesn't understand why I would carry anything other than a SAK *sigh*.

And now back to our regular programming.
 
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P popedandy I don’t think anyone was discrediting our men and women in the armed forces today. Perhaps some misinterpretation or taken out of context. I think what people were referring to are simpler times and the longing to be in a time when life and society didn’t seem so complicated.
I’ve served in the Marine Corps and have buried friends who died in the line of duty. I don’t think any less of the young troops today compared to vets of another era. But the world is just different today than it used to be and sometimes not for the better.
 
I am a bit offended by some of the comments about how the current generation is a mere shadow of previous generations because of the wars they fought. One of my acquaintances at work had most of his spine rebuilt after his original spine was destroyed by an ied in Afghanistan. My son found his best friend's corpse after the vehicle he was riding in got blown up by an ied. My son would normally have been in that vehicle and was supposed to be in his friend's wedding when they returned from Iraq in a month. He had two other friends who took shrapnel through the head from a grenade that was dropped on top of their Bradley. My son was sitting next to them. Both of those men survived, and all of these guys are leading productive lives.

Yes, life is more complicated now, but we still have young men going off to fight, coming back with undescribable physical and emotional scars, and getting on with life just the same as their forefathers did, and I respect today's veterans just as much as I respect the veterans of previous generations. I know that there was a special bond between my son who fought in Iraq, my uncles who were in WWII and Vietnam, and my dad who was in Korea - just a quiet acknowledgement that they all respected what they others had been through.

edit to add knife-related content. My son's EDC is a Victorinox Tinker that his father-in-law gave him, he has another traditional that I gave him, his hunting knife is a Dozier that fits his hands better than mine, and his chopper is a Golok.
He doesn't understand why I would carry anything other than a SAK *sigh*.

And now back to our regular programming.

Your absolutely right. I apologize sincerely if 'I' wrote anything that could be misconstrued as criticizing our fighting men and women. I have the utmost respect for all of them, past and present. My best mate and his dad are both ex-military and I've a mate who did two tours if Afghanistan in the Paras.
I think Jackknifes thread refers to how we were all raised; our childhoods and how the past just seemed to have less rules, complexity, complication. Was simpler, with greater freedoms. Yet despite that and the greater poverty and opportunities, civilization functioned as well, if not better, than what it does today.
I was thinking of society in general, and in every case there will always be exceptions to the rule. I was not thinking of a specific group, especially not our military's, and again I apologize if my broad brush stroke in any way besmirched the reputation of today's genuine good and great.
 
Like my old man told me a very long time ago, "It don't have to be big, just sharp."
You could even say that like : A man (person) doesn't have to be big, just sharp.
I'm not that big but have pulled off (strength) things ex foot ball dudes gave up on because I had a lever and a place to stand.

Anyway what I want to know is : do you have a
Little Finn
for use on the fish ?
If so lets see photos !
And of your other traditionals if possible.
I watched men like my dad, granddad, Uncle Paul, Matt Rankin, and they all did just fine with the 1950's era slip joints. In fact, they all looked down on the kickbacks of the day that were the 'switchblades' of the ducktail haircut crowd.
I have a ton of locking, one hand opening, knives but I could . . . for the most part do without the locks . . . maybe even prefer to go without on some of my locking folders.
I do enjoy not having to use my fingernail to open my knife though.
The Spyderco UKPK taught me that lesson.
 
I think Jackknifes thread refers to how we were all raised; our childhoods and how the past just seemed to have less rules, complexity, complication. Was simpler, with greater freedoms. Yet despite that and the greater poverty and opportunities, civilization functioned as well, if not better, than what it does today.
Yes that is what was meant and I find that modern people seem to have fewer and fewer role models that can actually work with their hands and problem solve physical / mechanical things.
One example : a coworker, college age, asked me to sharpen his fixed blade. I offered to teach him how if he was willing to buy his own stone and would help with finding one if he liked.
His response :
Oh we learned how to sharpen knives in Boy Scouts.
I was like . . . er . . .
I thought later : how many boy scouts does it take to sharpen a knife ? Could the instructor actually sharpen a knife ?
The guy gave up there; never bought a stone and never asked me again to sharpen it. I didn't push it he might have gotten in trouble with a fixed blade.
I fix stuff all the time that people bring me that I could do with my non dominant hand in about five minutes . . . often something they need to learn to do for themselves because they will have to sooner or later or be stuck away from home on their own (oh but they have a cell phone so . . . ?no problem?).
In decades past often people would either spy on me working so they could learn how or even offer to pay me to teach them on the spot.
Now they go off and talk on their phone until I am done.

Gooooooood luck future of the human race.
I say.

PS: environment going to hell ? Just get on the phone and order a new planet from Walmart.
But I don't have issues right . . . as they say : It's all good.
. . . riiiiiiiighhhhhhht.
 
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Your absolutely right. I apologize sincerely if 'I' wrote anything that could be misconstrued as criticizing our fighting men and women. I have the utmost respect for all of them, past and present. My best mate and his dad are both ex-military and I've a mate who did two tours if Afghanistan in the Paras.
I think Jackknifes thread refers to how we were all raised; our childhoods and how the past just seemed to have less rules, complexity, complication. Was simpler, with greater freedoms. Yet despite that and the greater poverty and opportunities, civilization functioned as well, if not better, than what it does today.
I was thinking of society in general, and in every case there will always be exceptions to the rule. I was not thinking of a specific group, especially not our military's, and again I apologize if my broad brush stroke in any way besmirched the reputation of today's genuine good and great.
Well, I am a little touchy on that point, so I doubt it had that much to do with what you said. I have a tremendous amount of respect for previous generations and learned some of my most important lessons from them. Jackknife's stories always put a smile on my face because I do miss simpler times. My apologies to those I may have offended.
 
I am now eighty. I have had a knife in my pocket since I was seven years old. In fact, I consider myself undressed if I don't have a knife. My first knife was a cheap camping knife that soured me on "boy scout knives" as it wouldn't hold an edge and I kept slipping of the wood and cutting my finger. When I was in third grade, I finally got the knife of my dreams, a whittling knife with three blades. I finally had a knife that would do what I wanted to do: whittle with the drop point, clean my finger nails with the pen blade, do fine carving with the coping blade. I carried that style of knife for the next fifty years. My main complaint is that I kept losing them either by working their way our my pocket with I sat down, pulled something else out, or developed a hole in my pocket. For that reason, I keep one or two handy around the house but carry a knife with a clip as my EDC. Old dogs do learn knew tricks. I currently have a medium Case stockman on the table next to me, a SAK classic on my keychain and a small inkosi clipped to my pocket. All bases covered.
 
One of the things I meant to mention was how we entertained ourselves during lunch in high school in the 1950s. We would play split and mumbly peg. We are probably the reason that knives are forbidden in schools now. It was dangerous but we never got hurt. When you play split you had to be sure that you were wearing leather shoes or you might have a knife buried in your foot.
 
One of the things I meant to mention was how we entertained ourselves during lunch in high school in the 1950s. We would play split and mumbly peg. We are probably the reason that knives are forbidden in schools now. It was dangerous but we never got hurt. When you play split you had to be sure that you were wearing leather shoes or you might have a knife buried in your foot.
I'm not too far from your age and remember doing exactly the same thing during recess in fourth grade in Lake Charles, LA. Virtually every boy in school carried a pocket knife every day and no one thought anything about it. Nowadays, if a kid gets caught with a plastic butter knife in his lunch bag the dumbarse school administrators are likely to call in a SWAT team. There's just no telling how much havoc a kid with a plastic butter knife could wreak. :eek: Buncha wusses. :rolleyes:
 
It is sad to know how much this generation missed out on things. My grandmother who lived in Austria had a wood burning stove. The wood was stacked in a store house in the back where the outhouse was also (no flushing toilet). The garden in the back had rows of different berries and herbs. The front garden had vegetables and milk was delivered in "glass" bottles 2x per week to her house by the milkman. I remember the milk was stored in a cold celler because there was no refrigerator. The neighbor next door also happened to be a baker.. were we got fresh baked bread everyday from their storefront which opened in the early wee hours of the morning.

My grandfather was a knife nut (probably where i got it from) because he built a storage hut outside that was dedicated to store his hundreds of pocket knives...probably to appease my grandmother and get his peace away with his knives.

They had everything they needed. Matter of fact, it was MORE convenient than today.
 
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