Off Topic The Hand Tool thread

Miller '72 said:
To continue from the followed me home thread...

My Bemis & Call

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Boston & Albany R.R.

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My R.R. Monkey :)

I use to use this monkey wrench for years, strictly my cast iron pipe fitting wrench when plumbing for heat or water in older homes and buildings.
Never let me down.
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That's a real beauty!
 
Miller '72 said:
That is a great saw. I come by and across very few Atkins saws, any of their saws. I probably have well over 100 rip, crosscut panel saws...less than 5 are Atkins I would guess.
Disston is more than common in my southern new England neck of the woods...very few Simonds as well...which is odd being so close to Fitchburg Ma.
...But Disston controlled the saw market like Coke or McDonalds does today. Way out front of the pack.
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I've found this to be true here in northern New England as well. Invariably Disston...

Am I supposed to use a slim taper file to sharpen one of these? I've got a good vice and the correct angle but my file wants to grind out a huge gullet(?) while not hitting the teeth. It's 7tpi. I can do a fairly good job on larger crosscut saws but I've not attempted any smaller ones yet. Any tips welcome!
 
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Yankee Josh said:
I've found this to be true here in northern New England as well. Invariably Disston...

Am I supposed to use a slim taper file to sharpen one of these? I've got a good vice and the correct angle but my file wants to grind out a huge gullet(?) while not hitting the teeth. It's 7tpi. I can do a fairly good job on larger crosscut saws but I've not attempted any smaller ones yet. And tips welcome!
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Hi YJ

Are you using a 7" triangular slim taper?
I might start there.
Does it need Jointing, fresh gullets? Are the teeth short now?

It's a beauty you have and makes me want to go look thru my saws for my Atkins
 
I see nice saws like that and look at all the teeth and shy away. Lol. It's not helped by the fact I was largely converted to Japanese-type pull saws many years ago, for the most part.
 
Yankee Josh said:
I bought this saw about a week ago. And i am truly enamored with it. It's hands down my finest hand saw. Cross cut no53 Atkins. Here's a photo for comparison(not that you guys need it);
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You all probably know all about this but I'm just learning about "damaskeening" or in this case a "damaskeened" finish. A few more pics;
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On the back side of the saw you can still see some of the original finish;
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And here is the patent;
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And just a couple of snippets I found.
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Have you guys run into this before? Are these saws very common? I'm very happy to have one! Cleaning the medallion is the only cleaning I'll do. I know I shouldn't have even done that! Anyway it's a beautiful saw in my opinion and I wanted to share it with you all and see what your thoughts are on it. Thanks!
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not too common, less so then disstons but not as hard as simmonds, it's a great find, especially a premium model in great condition
 
I have something a little different for you guys and it isn't vintage. Sorry.
I purchased this Japanese utility knife for my wife because she does crafty things. But I have taken a liking to it as a marking knife and various shop stuff (I am going to try a smaller size for myself). They are of two piece forge welded construction, hollow ground on one side, come pretty sharp out of their plastic packaging but take a really keen edge very easily. And the best part, they are dirt cheap.

 
garry3 said:
I have something a little different for you guys and it isn't vintage. Sorry.
I purchased this Japanese utility knife for my wife because she does crafty things. But I have taken a liking to it as a marking knife and various shop stuff (I am going to try a smaller size for myself). They are of two piece forge welded construction, hollow ground on one side, come pretty sharp out of their plastic packaging but take a really keen edge very easily. And the best part, they are dirt cheap.

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I see right off they would be good for a number of varying duties...and I like their size and with a full wood sheath.

Thanks G garry3
 
Miller '72 said:
Hi YJ

Are you using a 7" triangular slim taper?
I might start there.
Does it need Jointing, fresh gullets? Are the teeth short now?

It's a beauty you have and makes me want to go look thru my saws for my Atkins
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Did you find your Atkins saw(s)?
I have an old skew back 7tpi. Warranted superior on the medallion.
After jointing and pointing up, with a 6" slim taper, (i can't find 7" anywhere near me) I needed to set the teeth. I hadn't yet bought that last saw set so I went at it with a hammer and nail set.... man did I screw that thing up... I'm pretty peeved I didn't take a picture. It had a REAL ugly s curve.
Anyhow these are all firsts for me! Including messing it up. However I straightened it using my anvil and hammer and it cuts really quite well! It's almost perfectly straight again and It cuts nice and straight as well. A few photos!
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The one question I have is how do you guys deburr the sharp side of the teeth after pointing them? Sandpaper?
Thanks for the pointers AND encouragement guys! It's a great community we have here!
 
I will use the little diamond paddles to deburr my saws after sharpening. I have had a lot of people tell me to just leave them And don’t take the extra step but I enjoy sharpening and I think It will make the edge will last longer. Just my two cents for what it’s worth Lol
 
Yankee Josh said:
Did you find your Atkins saw(s)?
I have an old skew back 7tpi. Warranted superior on the medallion.
After jointing and pointing up, with a 6" slim taper, (i can't find 7" anywhere near me) I needed to set the teeth. I hadn't yet bought that last saw set so I went at it with a hammer and nail set.... man did I screw that thing up... I'm pretty peeved I didn't take a picture. It had a REAL ugly s curve.
Anyhow these are all firsts for me! Including messing it up. However I straightened it using my anvil and hammer and it cuts really quite well! It's almost perfectly straight again and It cuts nice and straight as well. A few photos!
3nFKbUw.jpg

46AddLw.jpg
SFA2bH6.jpg

The one question I have is how do you guys deburr the sharp side of the teeth after pointing them? Sandpaper?
Thanks for the pointers AND encouragement guys! It's a great community we have here!
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Those teeth look mean and ready!

I use my file, a light stroke on the backside and done.

I have not looked thru the saws...but will try to show you the one or two I can get to easy...easier.;)
 
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