The Hunted

Larry,
I thought TLJ got cut above his eye...could be wrong.
Better look at the scene again when he pulls the knife out of the tree. You will see it is a sapling Maybe 2 1/2 to 3" thick. Green tree with a full force throw Do able I think
 
Robert, you may very well be right, since the action was happeneing so fast in that final fight, I could be mistaken... it appeared that BDT took a quick look at his arm gushing blood, then swung it up at TLJ, using his own blood as a projectile distraction... or maybe I just have an active imagination!
 
I thought the movie was very entertaining. I agree that the plot needed some help. I have some questions.
How did BDT have time to put those huge logs up in the trees and set that booby trap for TLJ? Triggered by a tiny little leaf?

Were those hunters really government killers hunting him or were they just bumbling idiots? Why exactly did he have to dismember them?

What did TLJ put on that wolf's leg and how did he know where to find it? Good thing it was a friendly wolf.

Is a camp fire hot enough to smelt and forge steel and doesn't all of that banging and smoke kind of betray your location?

Why didn't TLJ just carry a gun or a knife?( Reminds me of that stupid movie, SIGNS, What no guns....oh yeah squirt guns...jeeesh.)

When TLJ was snared by the leg and flung over the cliff with BDT's spur of the moment, on the run, quick little, intricate trap, shouldn't his leg have been yanked right off? I guess BDT had just enough time to design it to slow down gradually rather than jerk to a stop.

Don't get me wrong I enjoyed the movie but it won't win any awards. I think the idea was great and with a little more plot and a little more realism, who knows, it could have actually been a great movie.

Jon
 
I think we spend to much time picking it apart instead of just enjoying the action.
Lets talk about what was cool:D
Like when he gave the agent a little nose spray...Is that real enough.
 
The quote I like the best from the movie is when TLJ said "Paiute's wouldn't quarter someone... well... unless they were going to eat them... naw" I like action films but don't take what they do in them to seriously, however I wonder how many kids that see the movie will then go out scrounging through the scrap pile and try to "forge" a knife over a fire? I probably would have tried it as a teenager if I had seen it in a movie!
 
The thing I loved about The Hunted was that it is a knife movie! It isn't like knife nuts get knife movies coming out of Hollywood every week! The kali was awesome.
 
Okay, scroll away if you haven't seen it yet, I don't want to ruin anything that I haven't alsready done so by complaining



The original hunters could well have been the 'sweepers' that Mr. Del Toro's character believed them to be. After all, they didn't leave when they realized they were engaged by a knife-chucking loony-tune and neither was big for going to the aid of the other. Then there are the giant scopes. OTOH, Hollywood is so far removed from reality that maybe the directors gave a couple speedfreaks or crackheads some hunting licenses, a hunting goods shopping spree, and turned them loose in the wilderness to see what they'd do and called that character research.

Just my $.02
 
The funny thing is, that if someone were to ask us what the worse possible knife is for hand to hand combat, most of us would think of something like the Tracker. Blunt pointed, a forward sawback that will snag on everything, heavy/slow, poor thrusting point and handle alignment, a handle that limits you to a hammer grip; just about everything is wrong with it as a weapon. Just leave it to Hollywood to get it wrong.
 
Saw it Friday, thought it was good. Basic Rambo remake really, with better actors. My hats off to Tom Brown and Tommy Lee. I've been to a few of Tom's classes and the wilderness skills in the movie looked really good. A lot of times they bring in outside advisors for these movies and don't really use them but Tom did a great job as advisor and Tommy Lee did a great job learning and portraying the skills.
Just one thing though, in the beginning where Jones' tracks the bad guy and all those FBI agents sneak up on them. I don't know, the awareness I've learned from Tom's school and as good as those two guy in the movie were suppose to be. I think they would have heard those FBI folks a long way off.

Ric

Don't forget, Tom's new book, "Case files of the Tracker" will be out the first of next month.
 
Just my .02.. I think the movie pretty much sucked.. Some of the knife stuff was okay, but THAT knife is about the worst fighting knife you could have.. They needed to go heavier on the woods, tracking, and survival, and lighter on the anti-hunting, anti-gun, anti meat eating messages..LOL. I mean what was Del Torro mumbling about how many chickens we kill every year for?
And saying hunting deer with a rifle is wrong? Well I would love to see him run down a deer and kill it..HAHA!! Cant believe I sat in a crowded theater for this, would have been a decent rental, I guess.. Could have been a great movie, ended up being a PC POS... But thats just me;)
 
Did we miss the connection here between TLJs quip about the reason for drawing and quartering a dead man AND Del Toros reference to "What if there was a higher specie in the food chain" above man. When he was being questioned...that gave a darker overtone to the whole movie and an insite to his mindset.
 
Yea I guess I missed all the overtones.. I still think it was a weak flick.. But then again many might really like it... I just didnt.
Forging a knife with a small fire, from some leaf springs with nothing more than another leaf spring to beat on it with was kinda funny too.. BUT it showed me his mindset, and how determined he was to make a knife..LOL... Like I said this COULD have been a good movie but it just wasnt in my opinion...ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz..
 
I went a seen it yesterday . Mostly I noticed how chopped up the movie seemed ! I would love to see the uncut version.I guess all in all its and ok movie,I think the 2 guys in the woods was sweapers . What did the papers say about this movie ? anyone know ?
 
I also think that BDT's reference to chickens was a metaphor for what he had seen in Kosovo... i.e. the ethnic albanians = chickens, since they were getting slaughtered by those who thought they were the higher species. Therefore, he felt it necessary to put himself, yet again, above the higher species, in this case the hunters, and eliminate the slaughter.
 
Ok...Ok...Now I'm not defending the movie here but....The knife was not designed to be a fighter. He was living in the woods with only the knife. That is what it was designed for, to have everything you might need in the woods, skinner/scraper, gut hook, draw knife for making a bow or bow drill fire kit, saw back for notching sticks to make traps and snares. It's an outdoor survivalists knife. Besides, in my 21 plus years in martial arts I've learned the best fighting knife you can have is the one in your hand when you are in a knife fight...;-)
Now, the chicken and higher species in the food chain quips. The chicken comment could have been a reference to the Kosavo thing, didn't think of that. But the higher species and so called anti hunting comments. I took that to mean that MAN, as a whole has lost respect for nature. Not that we shouldn't hunt but that we should have some reverence, some respect for our surroundings, nature. Not just go slaughter everything or kill the biggest baddest looking thing out there just because we can. Take what we need of course but not just kill for the sake of killing. So I think the higher species comment was very appropriate. If there was something above use in the food chain I bet we would have a lot more respect for whats below us in that same chain. Specially if that higher species had lost respect and was slaughtering us the we did the buffalo, whales, seals or any of the other 2400 species that are almost extinct.
As for the movie as a whole, it was ok, not great. But I'm with Trace, they should have stuck to the woods, the tracking and wilderness skills.

Just my $.02

Ric
 
The movie was horrible, if you got to see it because of the knife, wait till it comes out on DVD. If you want to see a good movie, check out "Tears Of The Sun" (or something like that).
 
The first thing that grabbed my attention was when TLJ took the snare off the WILD and INJURED wolf's leg. Come on! Another editing flaw or explanation failure was after BDT jumped off the commuter train and raced up the steps to the top of the bridge, he still had his Kabar on his belt. From there he jumps in the river and when we see him pull himself out, his Kabar and BELT are gone...hence the need to make a knife.

I agree with RicBrannon here, the BDT character probably chose the Tracker knife for survival, but then, needed to fight with it. BUT, when it came time to forge another knife, why didn't he forge a blade that would have been more appropriate for fighting rather than going back to the survival Tracker design?

All things considered, I'll take First Blood.
 
WARNING: PLOT SPOILERS AHEAD!

I saw this movie on Saturday. I probably would have liked it when I was 14. A fast paced, escapist adventure with plenty of action. Back then I liked my heroes to be invulnerable supermen.

These days I find that a holey plot, bad editing and unbelievable characters distract me from the entertainment value of the story.:( The loopy left wing morals didn't help either. The worst part is seeing the potential that the basic story could have had.

Continuity errors were very distracting. First he's dirty, seconds later he's clean. He's dressed in black, then he's in camo. He gets cut, minutes later the hole in his shirt is gone. The FBI Chick's shirt changes colour three times in one scene.

Ok, to lighten up the review, the opening and training scenes were good. The fieldcraft and knife fighting lessons that Jones was giving looked very realistic and practical. I recognize several of the drills as time honoured techniques. Unfortunately the director of the movie wasn't paying attention when it came to fight scenes later in the film.

MAJOR PLOT SPOILER: The final fight scene was so incredibly unrealistic that I couldn't just sit back and enjoy it!:grumpy: Jones has his leg punctured by a stake and yet continues running around like nothing happened. A knife goes right through his arm and he continues to use that arm. They employ tendon cuts and muscle rips (true to the teaching earlier in the film) and yet neither fighter shows any sign of fatigue, much less incapacitation. Cuts were made across the midsection of either character with no loss of motion. I might be able to take this if they were vampires, like in Blade, but they are supposed to be normal people.

I was once at a seminar hosted by Sensei Richard Kim and noticed that his hand looked strange when he did certain moves. When I aked my Sensei about this, I was informed that long ago Sensei Kim had been in a knife fight and a cut across his forearm had severed a few tendons. Even after surgery, the tendons never healed just right. The moral of my story? Real knife fighting causes real injuries!

Anyway, I might have rented the movie but I regret having paid the ticket price at the theatre.
 
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