The Knife That Has Killed the Most People

I wonder how many of you guys posted your disapproval of this topic after you saw Tom Mayo's post ya little brown-noses. When you saw saw the subject line, did you think "oh I better write what a bad subject this is", no, you were curious. I think the amount of obnoxious posts would greatly decrease if some sphincters would just loosen up (editor's note: in the interest of clarity, let it be made clear the by sphincters I mean the anatomical structure and not as a descriptive of the person). Have I drawn a big enough target on myself?
I also think boxcutters.
 
kitchen knives, box cutters, knock-off kabar/dive knives and machetes would be the preferred tools of the trade over 'ere in Singapore. whatever is cheap, easily available and disposable.

there have been one or two cases involving katanas and krises.

but yes, we should focus on the positive....because there are already enough sheeple out there. even the Buck Mayo I carry as my EDC is viewed suspiciously by ignorant and overly paranoid sheeple.

knives are utility tools first.....and weapons a distant second. you can't deny that weapon function either.
 
Originally posted by Marcelo Cantu
I wonder how many of you guys posted your disapproval of this topic after you saw Tom Mayo's post ya little brown-noses. When you saw saw the subject line, did you think "oh I better write what a bad subject this is", no, you were curious.
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Actually, I checked it out because I wanted to see if it was going to be as stupid a post as it appeared from the title. Not quite, but just about.

I am another that doubts that the brand is one of the statistics kept by law enforcement. My guess would be that the type of knife and the length, width and thickness of the blade would be the most commonly kept stats on knives used as murder weapons. I doubt that any investigator or crime scene technician gives a damn about who made the knife. That is, unless he/she happens to be a knife nut.
 
Playing semantics as to whether a knife is a tool or weapon is moot.

The courts consider them weapons, they are looked at as weapons by cops, the laws covering knives are under dangerous weapons statutes and not tool laws.

They are one of mans oldest tools which he immediately used as a weapon to feed and cloth himself.

On the streets is where it counts as to what the knife is considered. Thats where we carry them, in public, where the laws pertaining to possession are concerned.

Some knives are weapons first, designed for killing and not as a tool, even remotely, others are designed as tools but all knives can be used as weapons, hence they are weapons by law.

Right or wrong, until the courts understand this, the laws are changed, the cops view them as tools we carry, they are weapons, plain and simple.

Playing the "but your honor, it is a tool not a weapon" will get you nowhere with the judge, the jury will be instructed you were carrying a weapon [ the knife ].

That said, I think knife stats relative injuries and fatalities, percentage of deaths ocurring throgh their criminal use are important to know.

I teach them in the LE defensive knife course I put on. Data gathered from the FBI and Fallen Officer websites.

Type of knife used to kill more peole than another? I don't think it matters, it doesn't to the courts, they lump all knives into the same category.

Guessing which type of knife has been used the most? Kitchen knives. Domestic disputes are one of two most deadly occurances to the police, resulting in their deaths.

When the question was asked, it was inferenced that the knife was used to kill in anger.

Box cutters are not even close to the kitchen knives, which have been used to kill many husbands and wives over the last hundred years, alot more than 3000.
Especially if you look worldwide, boxcutters do not exist in some places of the world.

Kitchen type knives are everywhere.


Brownie
 
From a historical perspective, probably swords and axes.
More recently, the horror that was Rwanda in '95 was largely commited with machetes. An estimated 500,000 to 1 million people were hacked to death.
 
I would say Frost Cutlery. Criminal want a knife they can use and ditch.

By the way, I believe the number one stabing weapon of most violent attacks is the screw driver and house hold fork.

Brian
 
I read an article in "Black Belt" magazine with some stats on the subject. Specific brands were not mentioned, but kitchen knives were at the top. Pencils were also quite high, something to the effect of being the most common improvised stabbing weapon (shank) outside of prison. The lockback folder, by Buck or a copy, was also high on the list. Of course, I havent checked the sources, so take this for what its worth. I think the article included all attacks, not just the ones that were fatal. The thing about the article that sticks out in my mind is the survival percentage given for different types of weapons. Knives were 50%, straight razors were 90%, and improvised stabbing weapons were only 30%. They gave an interpretation of these stats, but I dont remember it well enough to repeat. This seems a worthwhile subject, as most people consider knives weapons first and tools second, despite plentiful evidence to the contrary.
 
Overall, I would think that swords and bayonets have killed the most people because they are purpose built weapons and for most of history, they were the number one weapon available. In the early to mid nineteenth century in the USA, the Bowie was the purpose built weapon of choice prior to modern revolvers and was probably the main weapon used in non-domestic confrontations. Like everyone one else, I would guess that the kitchen knife has been used in more crime in the twentieth century and early twenty-first century than any other knife because criminals simply want a cheap and readily available weapon.

I think that singling out brands is unfair, for example, the term "Buck knife" to many people means a large lockback, just like many people call all tissues "Kleenexes" and all refrigerators "Frigidares."
 
i heard that the "sting" replica sword was responsable for 9 out of 10 knife deaths since it's introduction to the public...
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Give the man a break he lives in Waycross Ga. Have you ever been there? The place is so slow you can hear the trees growing. Time has even been known to move backwards there.
 
Hey, come on man we've got the Okefenokee Swamp. Weve even got a Wal Mart. Shoot, I wiped with that fancy rolled up paper the other day.
 
Originally posted by spyken
kitchen knives, box cutters, knock-off kabar/dive knives and machetes would be the preferred tools of the trade over 'ere in Singapore. whatever is cheap, easily available and disposable
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not to mention easily concealed

anyway, what i find funny is preferred tools of the trade
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You got a Wal mart,but is it a SUPER Wal mart.We got one oh them a couple years ago and it closed down 6 smaller grocery stores with in 3 months.They have that white paper that you can wipe your butt with too.Looks like someone would have thought that idea up sooner.
This is a interesting post.I would like to see the stats.The head of Cold Steel would probably say it was thier tantos.
 
"There was a desert wind blowing that night. It was one of those hot dry Santa Anas that come down through the mountain passes and curl your hair and make your nerves jump and your skin itch. On nights like that every booze party ends in a fight. Meek little wives feel the edge of the carving knife and study their husbands' necks. Anything can happen." - RED WIND by Raymond Chandler (circa 1938)

Outside of military knives, the humble kitchen knife, brandname aside, has to be the leader. It's been featured sardonically in literature for a long, long time. Probably as a result of popular belief. Probably based on sound common knowledge for thousands of years.
 
The knives that have killed most people are the Paki and china crap that you see all over the stores retailing for few bucks each. I would seriously doubt that a criminal is willing to spend $300 on that custom wonder steel knife just to throw it away after it got the job done. I'm no expert but I think Guns kill hell of alot more than knives. It just gets too messy to work.
 
Not a dumbass question people....quit giving the man $hit. I would probably say kabar or scalpel.
 
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