The Knight's Edge CMKII

craytab said:
Another indication you need to take a step back, hang around the forum, participate, and learn. You don't just walk in and say "give me your money", especially when it is clear you don't know what you are doing.
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I'm confused as to what you're addressing. How does not knowing how to use a particular website translate to whatever you're referencing?
 
Pilsner said:
Here is some free advice.

You came here to make a pitch, to try to sell us something. You didn’t find out the rules first, but rather broke quite an important rule by even making the pitch in the way you did, with your very first post.

You are asking for strangers to find thousands of dollars for you to realise a project that will require considerably more complex logistics than simply working out how to post a photo here, or simply spending some time reading the rules.

This is seriously discouraging to any potential investor. I hope you can see why that is? My advice is to take a deep breath, take some time to do your homework, then give it another try when you are confident you have the right approach.

As others have said, this forum is for enthusiasts, some of whom might justifiably be described as experts. I recommend treading carefully. The information you need is easily accessed, but if people have to spoon feed you, why would they then give you money?
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Those are legitimate concerns, I understand. However, I'm just the designer/owner, my dad helps me run almost every other aspect of the business. Again I'm confused as to how learning to use a website I just joined translates in any way to running a business. Thanks for all the info, advice, and actually trying to be helpful.
 
Caleb Fechner said:
[...]Every has their own "correct" way to perform a certain task, and yours is quite obviously the one and only way lol. Thank you for your feedback Marcinek[...]
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How did you extrapolate that? He said your knife use showed a dangerous lack of skill, not that his was the only way.

I don’t think many here would look at your video without cringeing at the ‘technique’. I wouldn’t have said anything, but since you are taking this approach, there it is.
 
Caleb Fechner said:
Those are legitimate concerns, I understand. However, I'm just the designer/owner, my dad helps me run almost every other aspect of the business. Again I'm confused as to how learning to use a website I just joined translates in any way to running a business. Thanks for all the info, advice, and actually trying to be helpful.
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Why don't you get a loan from the bank to fund this project and then sell the knives yourself?
 
danbot said:
Why don't you get a loan from the bank to fund this project and then sell the knives yourself?
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I do not think it would be wise to take out a business loan. There are all sorts of dangerous consequences that could come from that. Thanks for the suggestion though
 
Pilsner said:
How did you extrapolate that? He said your knife use showed a dangerous lack of skill, not that his was the only way.

I don’t think many here would look at your video without cringeing at the ‘technique’. I wouldn’t have said anything, but since you are taking this approach, there it is.
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Would you care to elaborate? The reason I took the approach I did is because most knife users even frown at batoning and claim it's improper knife use.
I did not come here to start drama, and I'm sad to see it's escalated into something like that. I just wanted to advertise my business venture. Thanks, Caleb
 
Caleb Fechner said:
I'm confused as to what you're addressing. How does not knowing how to use a particular website translate to whatever you're referencing?
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Not about the website.

About knives.

Look, good for you on the the entrepreneurial spirit.

But it is the most common thing we have all see with new knife designers. They think anybody can do it. And "anybody" cant. This place is full or knifemakers and knife buyers who have used knives extensively for years and years.

I don't want to "harsh" on you, or discourage you, but that video is a deal breaker here. The use is crazy. Incorrect. Dangerous. It is not a selling point here. Instagram maybe, here no.

It's just reality. Instead of sending you money, I am giving you advice. You can't design a knife unless you know how to use a knife.

Read and use.
 
Hey Caleb, I appreciate the fact that you want to make this happen. This is America damn it live your dream! That being said if you are at the point in your knife loving that you're willing to pay money to discuss knives and such with strangers on the net. Chances are they/we have above average knowledge about knives plus other edged tools, different steels, and how to use them properly. In my experience with this forum is the majority want to help other/new guys out. There are many that will give you a hard time. I think you should get your facts and lingo right. No offence to you bud, but this forum is very passionate about our love of edged tools runs strong. If your knife ever comes to fruition don't right of BF if your experience here is negative. There are so many proven knives from proven makers here to buy from.
I'm sure your intentions are upstanding but in my opinion you'll not be well recieved (as in money upfront) here until you've established a name and a proven product.
You're more than welcome to enjoy this amazing community as long as you follow the rules. If you ask properly and politely some of the more experienced guys may give you some good advice.
As previously stated when i was 16 i was more worried about girls and drinking dad's vodka and replacing it with water until i could get a bottle to replace it.
Good luck my friend with your future Endeavors!
 
Caleb Fechner said:
Would you care to elaborate? The reason I took the approach I did is because most knife users even frown at batoning and claim it's improper knife use.
I did not come here to start drama, and I'm sad to see it's escalated into something like that. I just wanted to advertise my business venture. Thanks, Caleb
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You can't advertise your knives here. But you did, and got feedback. Sorry. Like I said, what are we supposed to do, smile and give you money?
 
Caleb Fechner said:
I do not think it would be wise to take out a business loan. There are all sorts of dangerous consequences that could come from that. Thanks for the suggestion though
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Well, with your father's backing and only being about $10,000 I think you'll be okay. Do you have concerns about the manufacturing and distribution? Why should people back you if you are not confident enough to do it yourself?
Just some things to think about.
 
Caleb Fechner said:
I do not think it would be wise to take out a business loan. There are all sorts of dangerous consequences that could come from that. Thanks for the suggestion though
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Instead, you'd rather have people loan you the money via kickstarter while you have no risk (or consequences)?

Caleb Fechner said:
I just wanted to advertise my business venture. Thanks, Caleb
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Not the best way to make a good impression.

~Chip
 
Anyway. Good luck. You will make more money if you really go out there and use your knives.
 
marcinek said:
Not about the website.

About knives.

Look, good for you on the the entrepreneurial spirit.

But it is the most common thing we have all see with new knife designers. They think anybody can do it. And "anybody" cant. This place is full or knifemakers and knife buyers who have used knives extensively for years and years.

I don't want to "harsh" on you, or discourage you, but that video is a deal breaker here. The use is crazy. Incorrect. Dangerous. It is not a selling point here. Instagram maybe, here no.

It's just reality. Instead of sending you money, I am giving you advice. You can't design a knife unless you know how to use a knife.

Read and use.
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You keep recycling the same statement, but can't seem to come up with what was wrong other than saying it was. Maybe I'm just being ignorant in this situation, and if that's so, I would humbly admit to my mistake. But until then, prove me wrong, direct toward an expert who has an article, book or video detailing proper knife use for the various techniques I used.
 
This isn't how we welcome new members here.. We absolutely were all new at one point in time..so keep that in mind before you continue..One of us is new- the other is not. Expecting perfection from new members is a folly that a bunch fall into..that's not true, otherwise the infractions would run deep and many would no longer be members here.
if we are expecting perfection from new members, I'm going to start holding members to that perfect standard- Be careful of what you wish for.

Caleb- Find an image host such as IMGUR- Get a new account (it's free)
Upload your pics-
select pic that you want to share
Right hand side, there are some links- Pick the one for forums and copy it.
Paste link here.
 
I'm out.

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Caleb Fechner said:
I'm confused as to what you're addressing. How does not knowing how to use a particular website translate to whatever you're referencing?
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You don't know how to use the website, you didn't bother to read and follow the rules you agreed to when you signed up, You did not bother to get a feel for a community full of people you are asking to give you money.. Do you see no problems here?

Getting a loan from a bank puts the risk on you. Using kickstarter or whatever puts the risk on the customers, the people you are asking for the moeny. That will be a problem for most. We've seen this too many times. First post asking for money. Do you not see a problem with that?

Stick around and actually become a contributing member. Read and learn a lot. Then maybe ask for money.
 
WValtakis said:
Instead, you'd rather have people loan you the money via kickstarter while you have no risk (or consequences)?
Taking out any sort of loan is not a smart idea. Just my opinion


Not the best way to make a good impression.

~Chip
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I'm just being honest, I had no intention of using it for anything other than that. But I'm slowly learning BF is a lot different than I thought it was.
 
Caleb Fechner said:
Hello all, my name is Caleb Fechner. I'm 16 years old and am in the process of taking my first knife design into production via my own brand Knight's Edge. As such I have created a Kickstarter in order to acquire the funds necessary to complete this task. The blade I'm going to be producing is what I call the CMKII (Companion Multi-Use Knife Mark II)
Some of the base specs: Full Tang, D2 Blade, Micarta Handle, High Hollow Grind etc.
If you're interested there are more details on the Kickstarter which I have linked below! Thanks for checking it out.

Kickstarter: (link removed- please familiarize yourself with the rules)
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Hey buddy I thought your knife looked like a pretty cool little blade . The people above bring valid points, some kind of dickish but none the less valid. This is the best place to pick up an abundance of knowledge, make new friends, and talk knives. Just read the rules, take what has been said with a grain of salt, and try again. Don’t let all this get you down. Like others have said all I could think about was girls when I was 16. Keep your chin up, that looks like a quality piece.
 
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